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PostPosted: Sun Jan 17, 2016 4:12 pm    Post subject: Browns hire Ray Horton as DC Reply with quote

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The Browns have hired DC Ray Horton, according to the Tennessean. tennessean.com/story/sports/nů #Browns




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PostPosted: Sun Jan 17, 2016 4:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Meh...

Respected coach. Will need his own guys to run his scheme.

Not looking forward to 3rd down.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 17, 2016 4:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks like we are sticking to the 3-4

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 17, 2016 4:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think it is a good hire. As long as we give him the players and not the dung heap he had last time he was here we will be fine.

I think my biggest concern out of all of this is going to be the draft.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 17, 2016 4:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Looks like we are sticking to the 3-4

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Yeah, I was really hoping that we would switch to a 4-3.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 17, 2016 4:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



I lost faith on Hue, he cant expect to win when you cant stop the other team on 3rd down.
Lets hope that other than Goff we draft all defense.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 17, 2016 4:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I lost faith on Hue, he cant expect to win when you cant stop the other team on 3rd down.
Lets hope that other than Goff we draft all defense.


I loved Horton. I like the hire. Not sure if you're serious or not about losing faith in Hue. If so, that's stupid.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 17, 2016 4:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ray is a solid DC. If he wanted to come back to Cleveland that makes me feel great that he's passionate enough about the city to come back. He helped Casey turn into a star in Tennessee hopefully he can help mold Shelton.

It all comes down to players I'm more concerned with who we get as GM I trust Hugh in whoever he brings in, but we need to get the best players and hit on every pick.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 17, 2016 4:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ray Horton is really, really well regarded around the league. He had crap talent to work with when he was here and he didn't have much of anything in Tennessee this year either (I mean really, name me 4 of the 11 Tennessee defensive starters. I know they signed Orakpo, I think they still have Derrick Morgan..... Alterraun Verner?). I also don't think he's locked in to a 100% 3-4, I'd assume we'll have a decent number of multiple fronts this year.

Also, for the 3rd down/red zone crowd... the game doesn't magically change on 3rd down. 3rd down success/failure rates along with TD % in the red zone and fumble recovery %'s are numbers that, when the deviate significantly from your team's success on other downs/the league average, tends to be an indicator of a potential regression to the mean rather than a sign of systemic breakdowns.

So in laymans terms, if Horton's D's end up in the top 10-15 overall, but are in the bottom five in 3rd down/RZ it is MORE LIKELY that it will regress to be more like the overall numbers than it is that his scheme just stops working every 3rd play. That doesn't mean it's impossible, weird stuff happens in sports, but it's much more likely that the 3rd down/RZ rates will regress closer to league average.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 17, 2016 4:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just like the idea of having an established DC and not watching a guy learning how to be a DC.

The one thing I like so far is it looks like Hue is going to trust the guys to do what they do best. To me we are not going to worry bout Hue getting involved with the defense because he is going to control the defense. Unlike Pett who felt the need to focus more on the offense when he was a defensive guy. Hue is going to be about leading the team and offense and not worrying about Horton and if he is getting the job done. He hired a DC that he can trust.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 17, 2016 4:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Players love this dude. We have the talent to be a good defense. Just need someone who knows what their doing and knows their personnel to be successful.

I just wish LeBeau would come over with him.
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We need to get Lebeau too
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 17, 2016 4:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok maybe not. This is getting weird.

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Just spoke to Titans DC Ray Horton who is upset by a report that he was angry after his interview for the head coaching job."I'm not insulted. I was very happy Mrs. Strunk gave me an interview. I think she was very impressed with me. I was told some ideas I gave are going to be implemented. I'm still under contract. I'm talking about a contract extension. The insulted comment is not true. I'm very happy. I was very happy to be interviewed." Horton's contract is not expiring.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 17, 2016 4:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lol at losing faith in our HC after he makes one Coordinator hire a week into his tenure.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 17, 2016 5:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nugpimpen wrote:
Lol at losing faith in our HC after he makes one Coordinator hire a week into his tenure.


last longer then Pettine, lost faith the minute he was hired, at least he made it a week lol
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