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PostPosted: Thu Jan 22, 2015 8:42 pm    Post subject: BleedTheClock extensive 2015 off-season Reply with quote

Well there goes my Thursday night! And...here...we...GO!


Key Departures:

1. Brian Hoyer (Thanks for everything, but time to move on.)
2. Jordan Cameron (Too injury prone. Someone will overpay for him.)
3. Gary Barnidge (Solid TE, but pretty sure we can upgrade TE#2)
4. Ahtyba Rubin (Making too much money and was a ghost this year.)


Key Re-Signings:

1. Phil Taylor (Let’s keep our big NT and hope he rebounds.)
2. Craig Robertson (He’s our future SILB for Dansby and our current WILB.)
3. Buster Skrine (I don’t think he’ll command that much money. Very good #2 CB.)
4. Tashaun Gipson (No brainer to re-sign him. We developed him, no reason to let him walk.)




FREE AGENCY:


Jerry Hughes OLB



“Jerry Hughes has a ton of pass rush talent. He’s a natural edge bender and can make any QB uncomfortable back there. He’s not much of a run defender, but as the RDE in the 4-3 or the ROLB in the 3-4, his job will be to simply get to the QB. Kruger on the other side can help set the edge in the run game while Hughes can just focus on being a disruptor. With a combo of Kruger/Mingo/Hughes, the need for pass rush is gone.”



Kenny Britt WR



“Britt has been inconsistent, but he’s still young and has never really had anyone throwing him the ball worth a damn. Pairing him with Gordon gives us two big WR’s who can attack the ball over DB’s and pile up TD’s in the red zone. With Britt coming in, it allows us to push Hawkins into the slot. Britt is still young and has seemingly finally gotten his head on straight. He’s a perfect #2 and a great complement to Gordon.”



Sam Bradford QB



“Bradford is a very good QB who has never been in a good position to succeed. His receiving options have been limited, his run game has been a non factor, and his OL has been incredibly bad. He has a lot of injury problems, but he’s worth the risk. I still think he can be a very good starting QB in the NFL, and even if he’s not, Manziel is there developing behind him. I can see him having a resurgence and ending up with a Drew Brees type comeback…on a lesser scale.”




Jason Fox OT



“Jason Fox is a good pass blocking OT who is still relatively young. He isn’t going to come in here and start, but he’s a guy who can provide excellent depth at both tackle spots in case of an emergency. He fits the ZBS well and his technique is very good in pass pro. He should come cheap and provide us with some insurance in the event that disaster strikes and Joe Thomas goes down…because I know I don’t want our current tackles on the left side.”






2015 NFL Draft:



#12. TJ Clemmings RT Pittsburgh 6’6 315



“Clemmings might not be a popular pick on these forums, but a lot of people were angry when we took Joe Thomas with a need at QB and other skill positions. This move is the BPA and helps our pass game and our run game tremendously. He has a ton of power in his punch in both the run and pass game. He moves like a TE in terms of getting to the next level. He shows attitude and toughness in finishing his blocks. His technique isn’t all there yet and he does play a little high at times (not the Josh Gordon high), but he has improved mightily from last year. Having him and Thomas as our bookend tackles would be a nightmare for teams. You’d better hope you can get a pass rush up the middle, because the edges are sealed. Having a line of Thomas/Bitonio/Mack/Greco/Clemmings gives us the best OL in the league. We can run on anyone with this set of hogs up front.”

NFL Comparison: Tyron Smith




#19. Eddie Goldman DL Florida State 6’4 315



“Goldman is a great defensive lineman. He consistently battles in the trenches and can create problems in both the run and pass game. He can play any position in any scheme other than 4-3 DE. He’s brought in here to play alongside Phil Taylor (NT) and Armonty Bryant (WDE) as our 5-tech. He is a run defending specialist, but he has the explosion and quickness to get to the QB at a decent clip as well. He’s not the athlete that Shelton is, but he brings it every snap and is a better fit as a 3-4 player. Goldman’s length, size, and athleticism make him a perfect fit for what we lack up front. Our LB’s will thank us for adding this demon to the front 3.”

NFL Comparison: Muhammad Wilkerson




2. Maxx Williams TE Minnesota 6’5 255

“Maxx Williams is a very good player who can do it all. He’s a terrific pass catcher and route runner, but he also has the size to be an in-line blocking TE, something Jordan Cameron is not. Williams battles for the ball when it’s in the air. He finds soft spots in zones. He runs away from LB’s in man. He runs extremely hard after the catch. He’s a shorter version of Gronkowski, so I guess a good comparison is Jason Witten. Somewhere between those two guys is where I think Williams ends up. He isn’t going to blow the combine away, but his tape is phenomenal, especially given the talent around him. He’s a great scheme fit and fits the mold of a Pettine guy.”

NFL Comparison: Rob Gronkowski




3. Devin Smith WR Ohio State 6’1 200



“Devin Smith has a ton of vertical speed. This is not his only attribute that makes him desirable though. He does have some quickness, but where I think he is underrated is in his ability to track the football in the air. He goes up for jump balls like a 6’5 receiver and routinely wins. He needs to learn to run more than 1 route in the NFL, but I think OSU’s scheme was the reason he wasn’t running more diverse routes. He does disappear at times, but a kid with these types of wheels and deep ball ability will help this team tremendously. We have a few speed guys, but Benjamin, Hawkins, and Gabriel are all short and light. Smith has more of an NFL body and could develop into a #2 receiver for us down the road.”

NFL Comparison: Mike Wallace




4. Anthony Chickillo DE Miami Fl. 6’4 270



“Chickillo is a tough prospect to project, but I think anyone who can relentlessly attack the QB will find a role somewhere. He’s a bit of a tweener with his size in the 3-4, but he does look a lot like Kruger physically. He does a great job of setting the edge in the run game and seems to hustle on every play. He was a 3-4 DE at Miami, but I think he’s a 3-4 OLB. He doesn’t have the natural edge bending skillset of a pass rusher, but his relentless motor makes him a valuable piece to this defense. He could eventually take over for Kruger on the strong side in the 3-4. His best position is a base end in the 4-3, which we could switch to eventually. Either way you look at it, Chickillo is a guy who will be a better NFL player than a collegiate player. At the very least, he’s solid depth behind our 3 headed monster of Kruger/Hughes/Mingo."

NFL Comparison: Ryan Kerrigan




4. Jeff Heuerman TE Ohio State 6’5 260



“This kid is the definition of H-Back. Underrated as a pass catcher as well. Heuerman can end up becoming a very good starting TE in the NFL. He’s athletically good enough to play on the perimeter, but where he will make his money is blocking. He’s a tremendous blocker, particularly on kickout blocks where he wedges an edge guy and the ball goes right underneath his block. He rarely misses a block and has great hands. I expect him to come in and pair up with Maxx Williams, giving us a ridiculous 1-2 punch. There is arguably no better scheme fit for us than Heuerman, OSU ties aside. While he might not light the world on fire stat-wise, his impact will be felt when we run the football.”

NFL Comparison: Rich Man’s Ben Hartsock (sorry for the OSU-OSU comp)




5. Jalston Fowler FB Alabama 6’1 250



“Fowler pops people in the run game. He has the size and athleticism to also be a very good pass catcher out of the backfield. With the way we played last year, fullback is not a dead position here in Cleveland. Finding a guy who can move linebackers around and catch the ball consistently on dump offs will be something we haven’t seen in years. Fowler provides a thumper who will help the tandem of Crowell and West reach their massive potential.”

NFL Comparison: Jerome Felton




6. Shane McDermott C Miami Fl. 6’4 300





“Shane McDermott is a good overall player. He isn’t great at one thing in particular, but he’s tough, smart, and gets the job done. He isn’t overwhelmed physically by anyone, but he also doesn’t overwhelm guys himself. Seems like a perfect fit for the ZBS, where he’ll be moving down to LB depth most of the time. He’s not going to start on a good team, but he provides depth in case of another Mack injury or rehab setback. He will pick up an NFL playbook quickly and will allow us to unemploy McDonald and Seymour, who were as useful as Ronald McDonald and Jane Seymour this year.”

NFL Comparison: JC Tretter




7. Venric Mark KR/PR/RB West Texas A&M 5’7 175



“Venric Mark is an extremely explosive football player, particularly on punt returns. He’s got great vision and excellent acceleration when he makes up his mind. He’s not going to be carrying the football in our scheme, but he provides good value as a pass catcher. His only purpose on this team barring an emergency will be to return kicks and punts. We need a specialist to handle this, and Mark is the best return specialist in the draft IMO. This kid could go earlier to a team desperate for a returner. I hope he falls to this point and the Browns can pick him up.”

NFL Comparison: Leon Washington



UDFA. Kyle Brindza K Notre Dame 6’1 235



“Brindza is the best kicker in the draft, in my opinion. Adding his boot to our special teams will give us a huge lift. I don’t know who we are going to pick up as a rookie, but I do know that they will beat out who we have had back there. Brindza would be my top choice, but he could go in the draft very easily. We’ll see who the BPA kicker is that reaches UDFA territory.”

NFL Comparison: Stephen Gostkowski


2015 Cleveland Browns:

QB: Bradford/Manziel/Shaw
RB: Crowell/West/Mark
FB: Fowler
WR: Gordon/Britt/Hawkins/Smith/Gabriel/Benjamin
TE: Williams/Heuerman/Dray
LT: Thomas/Fox
LG: Bitonio/Painter
C: Mack/McDermott
RG: Greco/Bowie
RT: Clemmings/Schwartz

LE: Goldman/D.Bryant
DT: Taylor/Hughes/Kitchen
RE: A.Bryant/Winn
LOLB: Kruger/Chickillo/Solomon
MLB: Dansby/Robertson/Kirksey/Eubanks
ROLB: Hughes/Mingo/Martin
CB: Haden/Skrine/Gilbert/Williams/Desir
FS: Gipson/Poyer
SS: Whitner/Bademosi

K: Brindza
P: Lanning
KR: Mark/Benjamin
PR: Mark/Benjamin


2016 Team Needs:

1. Quarterback
2. Right Guard
3. Strong Safety
4. ILB Depth
5. WR Depth
6. RB Depth


“I understand Bradford and Manziel shouldn’t inspire confidence. There’s a good chance both fail and we have no QB. If this happens, QB is obviously the major need. Greco isn’t young and I believe he’s a FA after this season. He could look to cash out elsewhere. A 2nd round OG would ensure our OL stays atop the NFL. Whitner has been okay, but not great. I love him as a leader and I doubt we replace him, but grabbing a future replacement couldn’t hurt. Dansby is probably gone a year from now. Robertson and Kirksey start, but depth is needed behind them. Who knows what Gordon and Britt will bring our team. Also, the depth is not great to begin with. I love Crowell and West, but a 3rd RB would be nice.”


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 22, 2015 9:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bleed, I edited your post just to take out the Maxx Williams pic so that the page wouldn't have to be scrolled side to side. Feel free to replace it with a slightly smaller pic.

My thoughts on the mock.

I like your FA a lot. Realistic but takes care of some places we need help.

I think your draft comparisons are hilarious. I get guys who compare to Tyron Smith, Wilkerson, Gronk, Mike Wallace and Ryan Kerrigan? Sign me up. In all seriousness though, those are some crazy, crazy optimistic comparisons.

I'm still not remotely on board for an OT in the first. It wouldn't be the worst move ever but I don't think it's the value move (would rather see a C/G in the late 2nd or 3rd who could compete with Greco and backup Mack).

I like the position with Goldman but question if he's a better fit than Shelton, Williams, or Phillips. Everything I've read about him says he'd be best as a 4-3 DT rather than a 3-4 DE. And shouldn't we be addressing NT rather than DE with the Bryants, Winn, and Kitchen still on the roster?

I'm not a huge fan of Smith, I think we've got plenty of burners and I'd rather focus on a short passing game guy (although I guess Maxx Williams certainly bolsters that in this scenario).
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 22, 2015 9:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pick a WR at 12 and a OT in round three and I like it.

We have a super bowl winner at RT who should be fit to play next season.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 22, 2015 9:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

freakygeniuskid wrote:
Bleed, I edited your post just to take out the Maxx Williams pic so that the page wouldn't have to be scrolled side to side. Feel free to replace it with a slightly smaller pic.

My thoughts on the mock.

I like your FA a lot. Realistic but takes care of some places we need help.

I think your draft comparisons are hilarious. I get guys who compare to Tyron Smith, Wilkerson, Gronk, Mike Wallace and Ryan Kerrigan? Sign me up. In all seriousness though, those are some crazy, crazy optimistic comparisons.

I'm still not remotely on board for an OT in the first. It wouldn't be the worst move ever but I don't think it's the value move (would rather see a C/G in the late 2nd or 3rd who could compete with Greco and backup Mack).

I like the position with Goldman but question if he's a better fit than Shelton, Williams, or Phillips. Everything I've read about him says he'd be best as a 4-3 DT rather than a 3-4 DE. And shouldn't we be addressing NT rather than DE with the Bryants, Winn, and Kitchen still on the roster?

I'm not a huge fan of Smith, I think we've got plenty of burners and I'd rather focus on a short passing game guy (although I guess Maxx Williams certainly bolsters that in this scenario).



Thanks for getting rid of the gigantic Maxx Willy pic. I meant to find a new one.

I don't think Greco's great, but I think Schwartz is worse.

I give wild comparisons. These are obviously best case scenarios for these guys. It should be best case scenario, not necessarily NFL Comparisons.

I think Phil Taylor is fine at NT. He was great before this past season, where he was placed at DE because Rubin wasn't good enough to play DE. Moving him back to NT would do wonders for our defense up front IMO. Goldman can also play NT. Shelton can't play 3-4 DE IMO. He's too short and stocky...and he strikes me as a gap shooter, not a block eater. Goldman's better suited for this defense to me...and I still can't get over the fact that some GM's said he's got major attitude issues. That always scares the hell outta me, especially pertaining to rookies who are now going to be handed millions and have no incentive to work hard. The drive to be great comes from within. Some have it, some don't. I'm afraid Shelton will be the latter. Goldman's work ethic is not questioned and I think he'd work within the scheme instead of freelancing trying to make splash plays all the time.

I like Nelson Agholor and RaShad Greene more than Devin Smith, but I doubt they will make it to mid round 3. Tyler Lockett is a thought as well, but I just think Smith has more big play potential. This is my least favorite pick.

I don't think we can just count on Michael Bowie coming in and being our RT. Not playing football for a year takes a lot out of you. I think expecting him to come in and start from day 1 is a pipe dream. It wouldn't shock me if Bowie didn't make it out of camp.

I think DeVante Parker will be gone @12, as will Cooper. Those are the two WR's I really like in the 1st. Kevin White intrigues me, but I'm much more confident that Clemmings will be an all-pro than I am about White.

And I hate the OT class outside of Clemmings. I don't see a road grader who can hold up in pass protection that will be available outside of the 1st round...and truthfully, even in the 1st round aside from TJ. I'd love to give us a 2nd-3rd round OT and grab a better WR, but I just don't feel confident in the class of OT's. If we don't get Clemmings, I'd rather just stick it out with Schwartz and Bowie, as I don't see a steal in this group. I know I'm wrong and there will be a 5th round OT who ends up becoming awesome, but I just haven't identified a guy like that personally.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 22, 2015 9:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

freakygeniuskid wrote:
Bleed, I edited your post just to take out the Maxx Williams pic so that the page wouldn't have to be scrolled side to side. Feel free to replace it with a slightly smaller pic.


Reggie would have found a replacement pic..just saying.

EZ would have yelled at him and locked the thread.

Guess you fit in the middle somewhere.

As for the off season... undecided
Very Happy

We'd upgrade probably 4 meaningful starters? I don't see a lot of difference makers and that is what we need. I suppose it comes down to how we play at QB...if they do well so will we. Bradford would be okay by me, wouldn't give up the farm though, gotta assume he only plays partial years.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 22, 2015 11:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maxx Williams is more Witten than Gronkowski to me
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I'll go through these 1 section at a time:

1. I have no problem with the departures or resignings. Curious as to the status of Sheard, but I have to assume you wouldn't resign him.

2. FA's:
I wouldn't mind signing Britt depending on the contract. He's a wild card, but someone I think could be a 700+ yard receiver.

Don't mind Bradford, either. Again, depending on the contract. I've never thought he was all that good when healthy, but he is better than anything we've had recently. At least I hope he would be.

Hughes is not going to help our run D. IMO, he's not really a lot better than Kruger, and doesn't provide anything that Kruger fails to provide. Don't see much of a reason for this signing. It would be a big contract for a situational player. He may be better at rushing the passer and equal to Mingo as a run defender, but I think Mingo is probably better in coverage.

Fox makes no sense in this mock. I'll probably address it again later, but you are basically saying we would carry 8 o-lineman, 4 tackles, 2 centers, and 2 guards.

3. Draft:
1st pick: RT isn't a need, and you also have another tackle in FA. Clemmings may be very good, but I'd rather take a risk on a bigger need. I certainly believe their will be a WR or front 7 player that will be in the conversation for BPA at this point.

2nd pick: Goldman isn't my favorite D-lineman prospect in the draft, but I think he could be a solid pick. Would just depend on who is available, and what the plans are for our current D-line players.

3rd pick: Don't mind a TE here. Don't know much about Williams. Saw one Minnesota game this year. Not much to say.

4th pick: No problem here. He needs some work, but there's no questioning his desire.

5th pick: ST player, nothing more. He's not going to find playing time in our front 7.

6th pick: Another TE? Or H-back? Don't even understand how you called him a good scheme pick considering none of us really know what our new OC will be doing on offense. I don't see why this guy would be a better option than resigning/signing a FA TE.

7th pick: We could use a FB, don't know anything about this guy. I care more about a FB's ability to block than what he can contribute with the ball in his hands.

8th pick: Would prefer a center that could realistically play guard at the next level. McDermott isn't going to do that.

9th pick: No idea about this guy.

4. Conclusion:
If Bradford and 2-3 rookies are total standouts, it's a great offseason, if not, the team isn't going to be any better next year, and will probably have a worse record with our schedule.

I'd give a C-. Really don't like a RT in the first. I think Schwartz is fine moving forward. Don't know about A. Bryant being a legit starter. I still question his ability to defend the run, but we haven't seen enough of him to know. Either way, I question that starting D-line. A rookie, an often injured Taylor, A. Bryant is still a big question mark, Billy Winn is average at best, and D. Bryant is still more impactful as a pass rusher than run stuffer. That D-line looks like it could be as bad or worse than 2014. The LB corps is probably just as bad, if not worse, at getting after the running game.
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Kenny Britt will not be coming here.

As I stated in other threads I really like Clemmings and see him as Tyron Smith. He's the only tackle I'd take at 12.
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bungleodeon wrote:
I'll go through these 1 section at a time:

1. I have no problem with the departures or resignings. Curious as to the status of Sheard, but I have to assume you wouldn't resign him.

2. FA's:
I wouldn't mind signing Britt depending on the contract. He's a wild card, but someone I think could be a 700+ yard receiver.

Don't mind Bradford, either. Again, depending on the contract. I've never thought he was all that good when healthy, but he is better than anything we've had recently. At least I hope he would be.

Hughes is not going to help our run D. IMO, he's not really a lot better than Kruger, and doesn't provide anything that Kruger fails to provide. Don't see much of a reason for this signing. It would be a big contract for a situational player. He may be better at rushing the passer and equal to Mingo as a run defender, but I think Mingo is probably better in coverage.

Fox makes no sense in this mock. I'll probably address it again later, but you are basically saying we would carry 8 o-lineman, 4 tackles, 2 centers, and 2 guards.

3. Draft:
1st pick: RT isn't a need, and you also have another tackle in FA. Clemmings may be very good, but I'd rather take a risk on a bigger need. I certainly believe their will be a WR or front 7 player that will be in the conversation for BPA at this point.

2nd pick: Goldman isn't my favorite D-lineman prospect in the draft, but I think he could be a solid pick. Would just depend on who is available, and what the plans are for our current D-line players.

3rd pick: Don't mind a TE here. Don't know much about Williams. Saw one Minnesota game this year. Not much to say.

4th pick: No problem here. He needs some work, but there's no questioning his desire.

5th pick: ST player, nothing more. He's not going to find playing time in our front 7.

6th pick: Another TE? Or H-back? Don't even understand how you called him a good scheme pick considering none of us really know what our new OC will be doing on offense. I don't see why this guy would be a better option than resigning/signing a FA TE.

7th pick: We could use a FB, don't know anything about this guy. I care more about a FB's ability to block than what he can contribute with the ball in his hands.

8th pick: Would prefer a center that could realistically play guard at the next level. McDermott isn't going to do that.

9th pick: No idea about this guy.

4. Conclusion:
If Bradford and 2-3 rookies are total standouts, it's a great offseason, if not, the team isn't going to be any better next year, and will probably have a worse record with our schedule.

I'd give a C-. Really don't like a RT in the first. I think Schwartz is fine moving forward. Don't know about A. Bryant being a legit starter. I still question his ability to defend the run, but we haven't seen enough of him to know. Either way, I question that starting D-line. A rookie, an often injured Taylor, A. Bryant is still a big question mark, Billy Winn is average at best, and D. Bryant is still more impactful as a pass rusher than run stuffer. That D-line looks like it could be as bad or worse than 2014. The LB corps is probably just as bad, if not worse, at getting after the running game.



RT is a need. It may not be the biggest need we have, but it is most certainly in need of an upgrade. Schwartz is an abysmal run blocking RT...on a run first team. And if you are facing a 3-4, RT and LT are interchangeable other than the LT is the blind side. Teams move pass rushers around more than ever nowadays. Having a RT is most certainly a need. I can listen to arguments that it isn't our top need, but Schwartz is not "fine."

Yes Sheard walks.

Jerry Hughes is a very good pass rusher. I like Mingo and Kruger, but I think Hughes is an upgrade over Mingo...and it allows us to get creative with Mingo on passing downs and even move him inside to ILB in certain packages.

LE: Kruger/A.Bryant
DT: Taylor/Hughes
DT: Goldman/Winn
RE: Hughes/Chickillo
WLB: Robertson/Kirksey
MLB: Dansby/Kirksey
SLB: Mingo/Kirksey

I love that 4-3 personel. I also think Kruger could easily be cut after this season, so Hughes and Mingo as edge players would be lovely in the event we do cut ties with PK.


Another TE? Yes. I consider your #2 TE to be a starter, the same way you gotta view your nickel CB as a starter. Our new OC said we are keeping the ZBS. 90% of OSU's plays were inside zone and outside zone. He's a perfect fit for a ZBS, which we are supposedly running.

New starters:

Bradford QB
Britt WR
Fowler FB
Williams TE
(Heuerman) TE
Clemmings OT

Goldman DE
Hughes OLB

Brindza K
Mark KR/PR

So that's 10 new starters, if you consider Heuerman, a #2 TE, a starter.
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We aren't switching to a 4-3. Why do you always allude to that?

Another point is that Hughes isn't going anywhere. He'll be a Bill. Just like Houston will be a Chief.
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pnies20 wrote:
We aren't switching to a 4-3. Why do you always allude to that?

Another point is that Hughes isn't going anywhere. He'll be a Bill. Just like Houston will be a Chief.


ehhh I think Hughes hits the market. Probably not Houston, but I could definitely see Hughes getting paid elsewhere.

I think our personel could be multiple. I don't want to necessarily fully go to the 4-3, but it'd be a way to get more pass rushers on the field. Moving Mingo to SLB, where he can rush and play that Von Miller role would be ideal for him. Robertson and Kirksey are natural WLB's in a 4-3. Dansby can do either.

The only guys on defense that I think are better in a 3-4 are Kruger and Desmond Bryant...and Kitchen if you wanna count our 3rd string DT.

And when we go nickel, we do have a 4-3 out there. It's essentially a 4-2-5. So take Robertson out of the game, insert our nickel in his spot, and go with

Kruger
Taylor---or Winn for pass rush
Goldman---or Winn for pass rush
Hughes

Dansby
Mingo

Haden Gilbert Skrine
Gipson
Whitner
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Thomas5737 wrote:
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Reggie would have found a replacement pic..just saying.

EZ would have yelled at him and locked the thread.

Guess you fit in the middle somewhere.


Incorrect, I would have deleted the thread and then issued a warning to you for excessive snark.

Any draft that has a RT in the first makes me feel bad. Other than that I can get behind this.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 24, 2015 12:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ryan will definitely make sure Hughes gets paid.
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