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Which non QB would you take at #2?
Myles Jack
9%
 9%  [ 2 ]
Ronnie Stanley
0%
 0%  [ 0 ]
Laremy Tunsil
13%
 13%  [ 3 ]
Jalen Ramsey
31%
 31%  [ 7 ]
Joey Bosa
45%
 45%  [ 10 ]
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nugpimpen


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 23, 2016 3:11 pm    Post subject: Who you like at 2? (Non QB Edition) Reply with quote

If RGIII does in fact mean that we skip a QB at #2, who would you want?

I think there are probably about half a dozen realistic options...

Bosa
Ramsey
Jack
Tunsil
Stanley


I really am kind of torn.

I'm an enormous Bosa fan, but I won't claim to know how well he would fit in what Horton is trying to do. I would assume well, but just don't know. I have always been a bit perplexed about him though. He seems real laid back and just an odd guy. I have a weird feeling.

I'm hesitant about Ramsey as I don't even know which spot he'd play in.

I love Myles Jack, but not playing last year could hurt him.

Tunsil is probably going #1

Don't like Stanley or the idea of going OT at all.



Gun to my head, I'm taking Bosa.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 23, 2016 3:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd take Bosa I think. It's really between Bosa & Ramsey for me if we aren't going with Goff (sounds like we aren't).

I would go Bosa just because he harasses QB's. Ramsey harasses WR's. Harassing the QB is more important than harassing WR's.


Bosa would play the 5Tech here, but I think we'd end up in Nickel-Dime packages with him as a true DE more often than not.


Base 3-4

LE: Bosa
DT: Shelton
RE: D.Bryant
LOLB: Mingo
MLB: Davis/Kirksey
ROLB: Kruger



Nickel Package:

LE: Bosa
DT: Shelton/D.Bryant
RE: Kruger
WLB: Mingo (or another DB in dime package)
MLB: Kirksey
SLB/NCB: Gilbert, Ifo, K'Waun



I believe eventually we will transition back to a 4-3, as our personel seems to fit that. Hopefully this regime isn't as stubborn as the old one.



If it were an option, trading down would be my preference. I always want to trade down, unless there's a franchise QB staring at you that you simply cannot pass up on. I think Goff can be that guy, but if the FO doesn't, it wouldn't make sense for them to take him.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 23, 2016 3:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tunsil would be a better fit than Stanley, as Tunsil has more power and drive. Stanley is a bit gooey and soft, despite being a very good LT prospect. Tunsil could play 4 positions on the OL. Stanley can play 1. Being gooey and soft doesn't mean you're going to suck. Look at Joe Thomas. He's built like my aunt, yet, dominates every week in terms of keeping pass rushers out of the backfield.


All that being said about the OT's, I want neither in the 1st round. If we trade down, Conklin seems like the best scheme fit out of the non top 10 OL prospects.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 23, 2016 3:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You need a pass rush to compete. I'll take bosa.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 23, 2016 4:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Give me Bosa

We don't have the luxury of being able to draft Ramsey yet. We need our foundation. Gotta stop the run.

I think Bosa can be the Justin Smith in a 34.

Ideal draft if we go RG3

Bosa
Jaylon Smith
Cardale
Receiver
Receiver
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 23, 2016 5:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd take Jack actually.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 23, 2016 5:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BleedTheClock wrote:
Tunsil would be a better fit than Stanley, as Tunsil has more power and drive. Stanley is a bit gooey and soft, despite being a very good LT prospect. Tunsil could play 4 positions on the OL. Stanley can play 1. Being gooey and soft doesn't mean you're going to suck. Look at Joe Thomas. He's built like my aunt, yet, dominates every week in terms of keeping pass rushers out of the backfield.


All that being said about the OT's, I want neither in the 1st round. If we trade down, Conklin seems like the best scheme fit out of the non top 10 OL prospects.


Do you think your aunt can compete for some PT at right tackle? We could use the help. Wink
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 23, 2016 5:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Trade down
Ramsey
Jack
Bosa
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 23, 2016 6:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Browns1987 wrote:
Trade down
Ramsey
Jack
Bosa


How far? I'd really rather not miss on the few top prospects. No lower than 5
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nugpimpen wrote:
Browns1987 wrote:
Trade down
Ramsey
Jack
Bosa


How far? I'd really rather not miss on the few top prospects. No lower than 5


Yes not lower than 5-6.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 23, 2016 6:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No QB?

Scheme fit aside, Bosa. He'll help all 3 downs.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 23, 2016 6:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bosa.

Ramsey said he is a CB and odds are he will be. He also excels and strugles with the same type of receivers as Haden so it isn't the greatest fit at the moment.

The bust rate increases a little after those two (I'm not drafting an OT at 2) so I go Bosa.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 23, 2016 7:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd trade down to #4 or 5 and grab whoever is left of Bosa/Ramsey/Jack. I like all three a lot but I have questions on all of them (scheme fit for Bosa, where Ramsey plays, and whether Jack is really as good as the other two). If I had to pick one with no chance of trade down I guess I'd go Ramsey right now, but they'd all be solid.

This all said, RG3 isn't going to keep us from taking a QB. Goff or Wentz will be a Brown come draft day.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 23, 2016 7:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

freakygeniuskid wrote:
I'd trade down to #4 or 5 and grab whoever is left of Bosa/Ramsey/Jack. I like all three a lot but I have questions on all of them (scheme fit for Bosa, where Ramsey plays, and whether Jack is really as good as the other two). If I had to pick one with no chance of trade down I guess I'd go Ramsey right now, but they'd all be solid.

This all said, RG3 isn't going to keep us from taking a QB. Goff or Wentz will be a Brown come draft day.


And we would never draft Brandon Weeden in the 1st. Nothing is certain right now. It may make too much sense for you to believe otherwise but that still doesn't make it a sure thing. I'd say I believe the odds we will draft a QB at #2 to be around 70%. Likely but not a certainty. With RGIII maybe 50% and without 90%. Doesn't mean we wouldn't draft a QB at #32 or later.

It adds up...do the math.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 23, 2016 7:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If we aren't taking a QB at #2, I want to trade down. If we have rg3, I'm fine with taking a QB at 2.
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