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SouthwestSteel


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 11:06 am    Post subject: American football is in very, very serious trouble. Reply with quote

This is a fairly detailed article, and whether we like it or not there are major legal battles ahead:

http://brucekrasting.blogspot.com/2012/06/americas-coming-depression.html
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 11:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Most of it is this guy's opinion. It remains to be seen. I don't think the ramifications of these lawsuits will be quite as bleek as he makes them out to be. There will just be more changes to rules and more time off for players who receive concussions.

There will also hopefully be funds set up that players and teams must contribute to for their future retirement and retirement health care. All of these things should have happened already.

I do not think this lawsuit will mean the end of Football as well know it. I do think that it will lead to more awareness and better care for retired NFL players though.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 11:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

turtle28 wrote:
Most of it is this guy's opinion. It remains to be seen. I don't think the ramifications of these lawsuits will be quite as bleek as he makes them out to be. There will just be more changes to rules and more time off for players who receive concussions.

There will also hopefully be funds set up that players and teams must contribute to for their future retirement and retirement health care. All of these things should have happened already.

Players should have been doing this on their own...I don't disagree with you there should be a chunck of salary that goes to savings of some sort but the palyer needs to be smart with their own money it should not be up to the NFL to babysit them

I do not think this lawsuit will mean the end of Football as well know it. I do think that it will lead to more awareness and better care for retired NFL players though.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 12:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

At some point in the very near future the NFLPA is going to have to include waivers in contracts based on the fact that the medical data regarding CTE is now available and players are aware of the risks prior to participating.

The players are going to have to bear the forward going risks once the league settles the retrospective issues.

The retired players suits will cost the league some $$$, no doubt. I don't think they are the death knell of the league...not even close.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 1:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dracula58 wrote:
turtle28 wrote:
Most of it is this guy's opinion. It remains to be seen. I don't think the ramifications of these lawsuits will be quite as bleek as he makes them out to be. There will just be more changes to rules and more time off for players who receive concussions.

There will also hopefully be funds set up that players and teams must contribute to for their future retirement and retirement health care. All of these things should have happened already.

Players should have been doing this on their own...I don't disagree with you there should be a chunck of salary that goes to savings of some sort but the palyer needs to be smart with their own money it should not be up to the NFL to babysit them

I do not think this lawsuit will mean the end of Football as well know it. I do think that it will lead to more awareness and better care for retired NFL players though.
It's done in other industries across the nation. I don't see why the nfl can't work with the nflpa to set up similar funds.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 12:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

turtle28 wrote:
Dracula58 wrote:
turtle28 wrote:
Most of it is this guy's opinion. It remains to be seen. I don't think the ramifications of these lawsuits will be quite as bleek as he makes them out to be. There will just be more changes to rules and more time off for players who receive concussions.

There will also hopefully be funds set up that players and teams must contribute to for their future retirement and retirement health care. All of these things should have happened already.

Players should have been doing this on their own...I don't disagree with you there should be a chunck of salary that goes to savings of some sort but the palyer needs to be smart with their own money it should not be up to the NFL to babysit them

I do not think this lawsuit will mean the end of Football as well know it. I do think that it will lead to more awareness and better care for retired NFL players though.
It's done in other industries across the nation. I don't see why the nfl can't work with the nflpa to set up similar funds.
Don't disagree did the players ask for it in the new CBA? Like I said I agree but the players need to want it.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 10:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't think we are looking at the end of football as we know it.

But players must be smarter with their money. You can have millions of dollars, but you should still save it. Don't blow all your money or "help out" all your friends. Be thoughtful of your family's needs as well.

The NFL will lose money. If they take the proper steps by tweaking the rules, take ultimate care with concussions, and maybe do something with the helmets (I don't know what they do. Helmets cannot prevent concussions) then it won't be as bad.

and really, players have to understand its a violent game, but if the NFL takes all the right steps into protecting players, then they can't be pointing fingers. No one will guarentee you perfect safety. If your looking for that, then don't play sports.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 11:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are enough players in the pipeline for the NFL . . . for now. But nobody in this thread is discussing the ramifications of lawsuits on the lower tiers, i.e., pee-wee through college football. When I posted it I gave it the title American football, not the NFL, and for a good reason. The NFL is just a part of a greater liability issue that is gaining momentum.

While earning one of my graduate degrees I took international law. And I was very struck at how litigious American society is compared to say, Japan. We have about 10 times the number of lawyers per capita!

When you hear various NFL players saying they would not want their sons to play football, this will only add to the cha-ching sounds already thundering in the ears of a subset of lawyers.

I hope it doesn't head this way, but I wouldn't be at all surprised if some schools at various levels of competition start to drop football due to extreme liability concerns. As a parallel, such concerns take their toll on the medical profession, and even for those of us who teach wilderness survival. And having people sign waivers has failed to protect individuals in actual court cases.

In everyday life, every year hundreds of new laws come into effect, and most of us know nothing about them, until we are in violation. This is a reflection of how much an explosion of laws, lawsuits, and never ending legislation has begun to strangle Americans. Some of these laws are wise, but many are a reflection of an increasing Nanny-state mentality. The NFL is quite likely to be impacted by these larger and over-arching trends . . .
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