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| nugpimpen wrote: | | fatpig wrote: | | how is the lazy fatpig the only participant to post rankings for this as of yet? for crying out loud dawgs, get your asses in gear. |
Nug/Dawgpound/Horny
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REGGIE YOU'RE DEAD TO ME
and you're a vegetable to me DP.
you'll see at the end of the season how phat the Steamers are... and you'll pay... oh you'll pay
PS is Juan Castillo really that bad? i admit i don't know squat about coaching especially D coordinators, but Philly's D wasn't that terrible last year under him. just sayin.
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| Dawgpoun8017 wrote: | | ReggieCamp wrote: | I didn't consider anyone else's rankings, and I guess my rankings show that.... I simply rated each position group, with a weight for importance. I tried to be as objective as possible and ran the numbers. Here's how they came out:
1. reginaldm9/marky
I'm not a huge fan of Matt Ryan, but I love the rest of this team. Those LB's are amazing, and in a 3-4, that's what butters the bread. Give Romeo talent like that, and he could do some great things with this D. Again, Matt Ryan is not my favorite, but the surrounding cast on offense would help the cause.
2. nug/hornby/dp8017
Tom Brady is an all-time great, imo, and he had perhaps his best year last year. With those skill positions, OL, and McDaniels calling the plays, that offense would be a force. Defensively, it's a little bit muddled, but I do like the 3-4 alignment for this group, and the depth is very nice. 2 great coordinators and Jim Harbaugh is hot right now.
3. Boca/pmk
Not sure why people had this team so low. I guess it's because of Peyton, and he's a risk, but he's worth the risk, imo. While the WR's don't jump off the page, as a group, they mesh nicely. Trent Williams is a question mark, but they covered it nicely by taking Vollmer as a backup plan. I love the D-line, and so would LeBeau. Belichick could take this team places.
4. bulldog/fgk
Perhaps the most well-balanced team in the whole thing. I don't see any glaring weaknesses. My least favorite group is probably RB. With only 12 teams, you should be able to do better than Fred Jackson and Law Firm. Not necessarily spectacular in any one area, but a team that would be very tough to beat.
5. shoffma/FEAR
Big Ben... I try to be objective, and I still think he's overrated. But there is plenty else to like on this team. The O-line and defensive front 7 are both excellent. Biggest weakness is WR/TE. Reggie Wayne is over the hill, Percy Harvin has decided to cause trouble, and Fred Davis and Eric Decker are meh. Lots of strengths, but the weaknesses knock this team down a couple pegs.
6. Spectre/fte88
Another team that is very well balanced. I think Philip Rivers will bounce back this year, and he would have some nice weapons to throw to on this team. I'm not a huge fan of the defensive backs on this team, but they may be fine. Champ and Adrian Wilson are old, but hopefully, for Spectre and fte88, they can have one more good year. They did a nice job drafting depth on this team.
7. buno/CB07
Probably the best combo of QB and coaches in the whole thing. A-Rod, McCarthy, and Philbin are obviously good fits, and Lovie Smith's scheme would fit well with this personnel. A few problems, though, knocked this team down. Not having a viable backup for Gore was a mistake. The safeties are young, and they have no backups. And finally, you have no long snapper.
8. roger/FLA
I'm surprised this team ended this low because I like it at first glance. Romo takes a lot of heat, but I like him. Vick was a steal as a backup. I also like the skill positions. Those WR/TE/RB's would give opposing defenses fits. This team falls a bit on the defensive side. The front 7 is good, but there are several teams who are great. Your defensive backfield is loaded with talent. Kudos for that. Perhaps my biggest gripe: the coaches. Dante Scarnecchia isn't even the OC for New England (McDaniels is). But that not withstanding, he's a terrible match with Andy Reid. They are polar opposites scheme-wise.
9. malibu/candy/cortes
I thought this team would be higher, as well. First off, I'm not a Cutler fan. He's just too much of a bonehead for my taste. Schaub might be better suited to start, but I don't know. The other skill positions are excellent, though. One of the best combos of WR/TE/RB in the whole thing. Perry Fewell needs a great D-line, and while yours is good, it's not as good as it could have been. Avril at RDE is a bit disappointing. I don't see too many glaring weaknesses, but just nothing outstanding.
10. Braylon/f2e
Matt Stafford was well worth the pick, but not having a backup for him is insanity. You took AP way too early, imo, and with Forte as your backup, you have a potential holdout/injury risk backing up an injury risk. I love your collective group of WR/TE's. Defensively, your D-line is a question mark. Mebane as a 3-4 NT could spell trouble. Most of your starters look fine, but your depth is pretty weak. Your coaching staff is underwhelming.
11. fatpig/lesser
I was disappointed to see pig in the final spot. He said it earlier, and he's right, if Cam builds on last year, this team will be for real. Plenty of strengths (D-line, RB, OT, OG, CB), but also some weaknesses (Center, OLB: you need more speed, S). You didn't draft a long snapper, which is a mistake. Juan Castillo at DC is a bad choice. He was less than stellar in his first year as DC in Philly. Sepulveda may never play again. A few other guys are currently street free agents. |
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Dawgpoun8017
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| fatpig wrote: | REGGIE YOU'RE DEAD TO ME
and you're a vegetable to me DP.
you'll see at the end of the season how phat the Steamers are... and you'll pay... oh you'll pay
PS is Juan Castillo really that bad? i admit i don't know squat about coaching especially D coordinators, but Philly's D wasn't that terrible last year under him. just sayin. |
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| Dawgpoun8017 wrote: | | fatpig wrote: | REGGIE YOU'RE DEAD TO ME
and you're a vegetable to me DP.
you'll see at the end of the season how phat the Steamers are... and you'll pay... oh you'll pay
PS is Juan Castillo really that bad? i admit i don't know squat about coaching especially D coordinators, but Philly's D wasn't that terrible last year under him. just sayin. |
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Dawgpoun8017
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| fatpig wrote: | | Dawgpoun8017 wrote: | | fatpig wrote: | REGGIE YOU'RE DEAD TO ME
and you're a vegetable to me DP.
you'll see at the end of the season how phat the Steamers are... and you'll pay... oh you'll pay
PS is Juan Castillo really that bad? i admit i don't know squat about coaching especially D coordinators, but Philly's D wasn't that terrible last year under him. just sayin. |
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Reginaldm9
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Alright, let's do this
1.Shoffman/FearTheElf:
2.MBTL/ReggieCamp
3.fte/spectre
4.rogermurdock/FLAbrownfan
5.Bulldog/FGK
6.Candyman/Cortes/malibu
7.THE HORNY PIMP POUNDERS
8.Pmk/Boca
9.Fatpig/Lesser
10.Braylon/F2E
11.Buno/CB07
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1. Nugpimpen/Hornbybrown/Dawgpoun8017 - Strength- QB - -Weakness- TE
This is a very well balanced team with no glaring holes. Wide variety of players with different skill sets. Bit of a risk with two rookies in the secondary. And alot of faith in the WR's duplicating past seasons. Lack of depth at TE, with Clark being all but done and Hernandez being the only real option. Defense is very well rounded with youth and experience with the best defensive leader in the league.
- This team gets the #1 spot b/c of the great diversity of the talent, infusion of proven leaders and outstanding young players, and Elite QB.
2. MBTL/ReggieCamp - Strength- DL - - Weakness- OL
This is another very well rounded team. The OL isn't really a weakness, but its probably the least talented group on the team. A clutch QB. Great playmakers on offense. A very talented and deep DL. A good LB core and very talented secondary. There's also very talented depth all around.
- They edge out into the 2nd spot by having a bit more complete team than the #3 team.
3. Shoffma1999/FEARtheELF - Strength - Front seven - - Weakness- WR
This is the best front seven in the game. Absolutely sick to look at. The OL was a very close 2nd for Strength of the team. Elite unit with Dahl being the only weak link. Big Ben has that "it" factor. WR is a huge weakness with Wayne aging. Harvin is a great slot receiver, but after him, its a very weak unit. Secondary is a underrated coverage unit, but not pick happy.
- Lack of WR's cost them the 2nd place spot. Other than that, a great looking football team.
4. fatpig/lesser - Strength- Receivers - - Weakness- Secondary
Boom or Bust with Cam Newton. Done a great job surrounding Newton with a reliable offense. Very good OL with a workhorse RB. A Playmaker in Sproles who could excel in Cam's broken plays. Defense is very solid, with the secondary really holding it back. I'm banking on Cam Newton in this one.
- They set this team up well for Newton. He's the reason I have them this high.
5. fte88 and spectre - Strength- DL - - Weakness- WR
This defense line unit is disgusting. Secondary may be a bit average compared to others and the LB core is solid. The Offense seems like it was built well. There is no true #1 WR (Green is only in his 2nd season, he'll need to prove it) with average depth as well. OL seems fit for the ZBS and there's a nice set of complimentary players.
- Lack of WR and secondary held this team back a few places.
6. Reginaldm9/Marky- Strength- LB - - Weakness- WR
I won't hold Matt Ryan's playoff dud's against him in this. he's money at home and puts up a fight always. Defense is outstanding from top to bottom with perennial Pro Bowlers and league leaders all over the place. WR's are not that good and there's no depth. Jennings is a legit #1, Brown is a good deep threat, all purpose guy though. Britt may not even play this year and there's alot of inexperience after that. The defense could carry this team, but Ryan needs more weapons than that. OL is OK.
- Offense is so-so, defense is elite.
7. candyman93 / cortes02 /malibuspeedrace - Strength- OL - - Weakness- QB
Jay Culter might be the worst starting QB in this 12 team league. Shuab should be the starter, but he's very injury prone. Thats a tough spot for such an important position. OL is fantastic. Along with a very very good set of WR's and RB's. Solid DL. Very average looking LB core and the CB's may hurt with Hall's injury. No great depth in the secondary either. Nice DL rotation though.
- QB hurt this team alot. The rest of this team as a whole looks good.
8. Pmk & boca - Strength- QB - - Weakness- LB
I believe Manning will be fine, and with those weapon, he'd be great. How good will Jamal Charles be one year removed from ACL injury? DL and Secondary are good, but the LB's are a little mismatched. In a 34, I don't think that's good. Great coaching staff, and they have Tim Tebow!
- This team should be higher, but there's too many players coming off injury for me to move them up. Defensive players look better suited for the 43 instead of the 34.
9. roger murdock / FLAbrownfan- Strength- TE's for sho. - Weakness- QB/WR
The whole team has a nice blend of youth and veterans. In a 12 team league, Tony Romo is near the bottom of QB's. If Vick can return to his 2010 form, this team is dangerous. The front seven is sick. RB's are outstanding and they have a sleeper in Brandon Lloyd. not sure how I feel at Eric Berry at SS, and how good will he be one year removed from ACL surgery?
- Don't like the QB's and there's a few question marks.
10. buno67/CleBrowns07- Strength- Offense skill positions - - Weakness- Secondary
The best QB in the game with a great set of weapons to throw too. I think the OL is full of overrated big name types, but they are still very good. The defense has a lot of very underrated players, but overall, its underwhelming with no "star" player. The defense holds this team back for me. No depth at RB at all. One injury away from not having one.
- This team is a 10 or a 4 at its positions. Depth is scary and areas of need.
11. Braylon4MVP/ F2E - Strength- LB - - Weakness- QB
If Megatron suffers the Madden Cover Curse, then Stafford's numbers will plummet. He's not half the QB with Megatron. Good set of skill position players. Sick linebackers. Potentially very good OL. Decent secondary. Very odd defensive alignment.
- To many question marks for me. |
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I kinda feel like we should have all the teams Depth Charts in the same format in one post on the first page of this thread.
Make it soo much easier to compare. |
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Dawgpoun8017
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| bulldog wrote: | 1. Nugpimpen/Hornbybrown/Dawgpoun8017 - Strength- QB - -Weakness- TE
This is a very well balanced team with no glaring holes. Wide variety of players with different skill sets. Bit of a risk with two rookies in the secondary. And alot of faith in the WR's duplicating past seasons. Lack of depth at TE, with Clark being all but done and Hernandez being the only real option. Defense is very well rounded with youth and experience with the best defensive leader in the league.
- This team gets the #1 spot b/c of the great diversity of the talent, infusion of proven leaders and outstanding young players, and Elite QB.
2. MBTL/ReggieCamp - Strength- DL - - Weakness- OL
This is another very well rounded team. The OL isn't really a weakness, but its probably the least talented group on the team. A clutch QB. Great playmakers on offense. A very talented and deep DL. A good LB core and very talented secondary. There's also very talented depth all around.
- They edge out into the 2nd spot by having a bit more complete team than the #3 team.
3. Shoffma1999/FEARtheELF - Strength - Front seven - - Weakness- WR
This is the best front seven in the game. Absolutely sick to look at. The OL was a very close 2nd for Strength of the team. Elite unit with Dahl being the only weak link. Big Ben has that "it" factor. WR is a huge weakness with Wayne aging. Harvin is a great slot receiver, but after him, its a very weak unit. Secondary is a underrated coverage unit, but not pick happy.
- Lack of WR's cost them the 2nd place spot. Other than that, a great looking football team.
4. fatpig/lesser - Strength- Receivers - - Weakness- Secondary
Boom or Bust with Cam Newton. Done a great job surrounding Newton with a reliable offense. Very good OL with a workhorse RB. A Playmaker in Sproles who could excel in Cam's broken plays. Defense is very solid, with the secondary really holding it back. I'm banking on Cam Newton in this one.
- They set this team up well for Newton. He's the reason I have them this high.
5. fte88 and spectre - Strength- DL - - Weakness- WR
This defense line unit is disgusting. Secondary may be a bit average compared to others and the LB core is solid. The Offense seems like it was built well. There is no true #1 WR (Green is only in his 2nd season, he'll need to prove it) with average depth as well. OL seems fit for the ZBS and there's a nice set of complimentary players.
- Lack of WR and secondary held this team back a few places.
6. Reginaldm9/Marky- Strength- LB - - Weakness- WR
I won't hold Matt Ryan's playoff dud's against him in this. he's money at home and puts up a fight always. Defense is outstanding from top to bottom with perennial Pro Bowlers and league leaders all over the place. WR's are not that good and there's no depth. Jennings is a legit #1, Brown is a good deep threat, all purpose guy though. Britt may not even play this year and there's alot of inexperience after that. The defense could carry this team, but Ryan needs more weapons than that. OL is OK.
- Offense is so-so, defense is elite.
7. candyman93 / cortes02 /malibuspeedrace - Strength- OL - - Weakness- QB
Jay Culter might be the worst starting QB in this 12 team league. Shuab should be the starter, but he's very injury prone. Thats a tough spot for such an important position. OL is fantastic. Along with a very very good set of WR's and RB's. Solid DL. Very average looking LB core and the CB's may hurt with Hall's injury. No great depth in the secondary either. Nice DL rotation though.
- QB hurt this team alot. The rest of this team as a whole looks good.
8. Pmk & boca - Strength- QB - - Weakness- LB
I believe Manning will be fine, and with those weapon, he'd be great. How good will Jamal Charles be one year removed from ACL injury? DL and Secondary are good, but the LB's are a little mismatched. In a 34, I don't think that's good. Great coaching staff, and they have Tim Tebow!
- This team should be higher, but there's too many players coming off injury for me to move them up. Defensive players look better suited for the 43 instead of the 34.
9. roger murdock / FLAbrownfan- Strength- TE's for sho. - Weakness- QB/WR
The whole team has a nice blend of youth and veterans. In a 12 team league, Tony Romo is near the bottom of QB's. If Vick can return to his 2010 form, this team is dangerous. The front seven is sick. RB's are outstanding and they have a sleeper in Brandon Lloyd. not sure how I feel at Eric Berry at SS, and how good will he be one year removed from ACL surgery?
- Don't like the QB's and there's a few question marks.
10. buno67/CleBrowns07- Strength- Offense skill positions - - Weakness- Secondary
The best QB in the game with a great set of weapons to throw too. I think the OL is full of overrated big name types, but they are still very good. The defense has a lot of very underrated players, but overall, its underwhelming with no "star" player. The defense holds this team back for me. No depth at RB at all. One injury away from not having one.
- This team is a 10 or a 4 at its positions. Depth is scary and areas of need.
11. Braylon4MVP/ F2E - Strength- LB - - Weakness- QB
If Megatron suffers the Madden Cover Curse, then Stafford's numbers will plummet. He's not half the QB with Megatron. Good set of skill position players. Sick linebackers. Potentially very good OL. Decent secondary. Very odd defensive alignment.
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Dawgpoun8017 had asked me to go into more detail on his team, and I completely forgot about it. Better late than never....
QB: Tom Brady is great, and he had one of his greatest seasons last year. He is a perfect fit with McDaniels, and it was a good move on your part to pair them together. Flacco is one of the best backups of any team in the league. QB is a resounding strength for your team.
RB/FB: I know you guys have pimped your triumvirate of RB's, but I'm not a huge fan. I believe Marshawn to be overrated. His career YPC is barely 4.0, and he's struggled with injuries and attitude throughout his career. I'm betting last season was the exception, and not the norm. Ben Tate is a good backup, but he's only played one year. Ditto for Demarco Murray. There is some promise in your RB group as a whole, but it's dampened by Marshawn.
WR/TE: You have lots of speed. A whole lotta speed. Steve Smith's re-emergence last year was a surprise to me, and hopefully for you, he has at least one more year left. Julio looks for real after one season. Your wild card is Moss. He could have a comeback, but I don't know. I hate players that give up, and he's done it. Several times, actually. Overall, lots of playmakers in this group. Well done.
O-line: A solid O-line, all the way across. Jordan Gross has been a bit inconsistent over the years, but his best is really good. I personally would have Grubbs and Decastro switch sides. Grubbs has played only LG as far as I know, and Decastro is set to start at RG for the Stillers. Chris Meyers was a nice snag, as late as you picked him.
D-line: Not the strongest unit on your team, but not bad. I'm not sure I like Kyle Williams as a 3-4 NT. Soliai was a good pickup, as he definitely has the body to play nose. Your DE's are a little short on experience, but I love JJ Watt. What a great rookie year. The inexperience on your line might cost you if you get an injury or two, but it's a pretty talented group.
LB: I love this part of your team. You have a great blend of not only different skillsets, but also age. You're young on the outside, and that's a risk. Suggs' return looks to be later than first expected, so that hurts you also. Love your inside backers. This group would do well in your 3-4 alignment.
CB: 2 fresh rookies out of 4 CB's is a big risk. Gilmore needs some refinement. Derek Cox is coming back from a knee injury, so you're an injury and a rookie bust away from a world of hurt at the CB position. You need to get a little lucky with this, and as it is, it's one of the weaker units on your team.
S: A solid, but unspectacular group of safeties. The guys you have don't exactly excel in coverage, so top TE's would give your team a hard time. Combined with your shaky depth at CB, and defending the pass might be a problem for you.
ST: Meh. Not your strongest either. Your kicker is 37. Your punter is coming off a torn achilles. And your only returner is a rookie. Hmmm.
Coaches: I like them. Jim Harbaugh is a little bit arrogant, but he's a really good coach. As I mentioned, McDaniels is perfect with Brady, and Wade Phillips is one of the best 3-4 DC's in the business.
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Do US
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even though you clearly don't 'get' our team 
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| Ugh sorry I'm slacking on rankings, guys. I'm just so busy and when I have time to myself I just want to relax. Probably won't get it done tonight because I have some stuff I want to do, but I have Saturday off so hopefully I'll get to it then. |
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| malibuspeedrace wrote: | Do US
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I've been meaning to get on here, life has just been crazy the last few days, will do a ranking soon
 and super grrrrrrr to those of you who don't like the spider monkeys
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| malibuspeedrace wrote: | Do US
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QB: Settling for Cutler in a 12-team league is less than ideal. He's shown flashes of top play, but he always seems to make enough dumb plays to keep his team from winning the big games. Schaub is one of the better backups in our league, and I would be tempted to start him over Cutler. QB controversy...
RB: A great group, maybe the best collective group in the league. Shady is now considered elite, and Bradshaw has many of the same skills. Turner is slowing down, but still a nice insurance policy to have.
WR/TE: I love your WR's. Put all 5 of them on the field at the same time, and that might be your best formation. Your TE's are fine, but not a great group for a 12-team league. Pettigrew could emerge as a top TE if a few things go his way. Dangerous weapons you have, says Yoda.
O-Line: Great starters and great depth. You really don't have a weak spot unless Brian Waters realizes he's 35 years old. Great work assembling that O-line.
D-Line: Decent with nice upside. Tuck is a great all-around DE. I just wish he was a more consistent pass rusher. If you get rookie Suh, watch out. Avril is the weak link for your starters, but it's not like he's bad. Alualualualualu has been solid, but not spectacular. I do like your depth, as they're not very far behind your starters.
LB: You have a very nice group of LB's, and I think they would do a decent job at just about everything. Given the crazy good offenses, though, I think you should have a couple pass rush threats at LB. You really don't have any.
CB: Nnamdi was a good pick and good value where you took him. Still a top cover corner, regardless of what happened last year. Your other 3 are definitely recognizable names, but they are all a little overrated, and Leon Hall might miss some significant time this year.
S: Kam Chancellor is an up-and-coming top safety, but he gets too much love here on FF (due mostly to SOS  ). He's not quite elite yet, but still a nice player to have. Your other safeties are meh, and you only have 3 on your roster. Risky.
ST: Very nice. What happens if Desean gets hurt?
Coaches: I like the pairing of Shanny and Cutler. Not sure how Gruden would fit into that mix, but I think it would work pretty well. Fewell really needs a top pass rush, and you don't really have one. Again, it's not pathetic or anything, but compared to some of the other teams, you might have a hard time getting to the QB.
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