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The_Slamman
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Another thing I like about Romo is that he gets "it." Unlike so many of the Romosexuals on this site who can't see past stats... Romo does.
| Quote: | | “Well, it’s not about statistics. It’s about winning,” Romo said. “That’s what he story is going to be written when it’s all said and done. It’s going to come down to whether we won or lost. That’s why you practice the way we do. That’s why you’re out there doing the stuff we’re doing, so that we can put our best foot forward and try to win. The articles are going to always be about winning and losing and that’s what the fans and players and all of us want to see. It doesn’t matter about any of the other stuff.” |
http://www.dallascowboys.com/news/nick_eatman.cfm?plckController=Blog&plckBlogPage=BlogViewPost&userid=1990bfd1-c6a9-4728-af3f-a229e85b981c&plckPostId=Blog%3a1990bfd1-c6a9-4728-af3f-a229e85b981cPost%3a50ac73af-2efc-4c2d-852e-0fa0aef143d4&plckScript=blogScript&plckElementId=blogDest
Straight from Romo's mouth. It's not about stats, it's about winning. Now, if we could just get the apologists to realize it... but, that's probably asking too much.
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TheStarStillShines
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| Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 10:06 am Post subject: |
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Here's how the voting broke down (12 total votes - I ignored anyone who "spoiled" their ballot - i.e., made asinine posts):
1. Roger Staubach - 56 points (9 1st-place votes)
2. Troy Aikman - 49 points (2)
3. Tony Romo - 35.5 points (1)
4. Danny White - 26.5 points
5. Don Meredith - 14 points
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me227
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| Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 3:53 pm Post subject: |
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Slam, you bolded the wrong thing, let me help you out a little.
Now let me ask you something Slam, do any of the teams that Romo has been on compare to the teams that Aikman and Staubach won with? If the answer is yes then stop hating on Jerry Jones because that would mean he has built a super bowl quality team, if the answer is no and unless you are an idoit, you have to say no then why bash the qb? I will say it again, a qb can not win a ring by himself. Give Romo a HOF RB, give Romo a HOF Offensive lineman, give Romo a consistent top defense. Hell give him a HOF WR who isn't hurt in the playoffs. You keep bashing on the people who support Romo, yet you bash him because he isn't lucky enough to play with an all time great team.
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The_Slamman
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| Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 11:22 pm Post subject: |
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| me227 wrote: | Slam, you bolded the wrong thing, let me help you out a little.
Now let me ask you something Slam, do any of the teams that Romo has been on compare to the teams that Aikman and Staubach won with? If the answer is yes then stop hating on Jerry Jones because that would mean he has built a super bowl quality team, if the answer is no and unless you are an idoit, you have to say no then why bash the qb? I will say it again, a qb can not win a ring by himself. Give Romo a HOF RB, give Romo a HOF Offensive lineman, give Romo a consistent top defense. Hell give him a HOF WR who isn't hurt in the playoffs. You keep bashing on the people who support Romo, yet you bash him because he isn't lucky enough to play with an all time great team. |
How about this... you find me the post where I bashed Romo and I'll go ahead and answer your question. All I'm saying is that Romo gets it. It's unfortunate that so many of the homers here don't. Romo is only saying what I've been saying to them for a long, long time.
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Desperado82
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| Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 11:30 pm Post subject: |
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So...if it's all about winning...then Trent Dilfer is a better QB than Dan Marino, and is on equal footing with the likes of Favre, Manning, Brees, Rodgers, etc. Interesting.
In the grand scheme of things, Romo is right...his stats don't matter if the rest of the team can't live up to their end of the bargain and not fall apart at critical times. But as far as judging him as a quarterback...they do hold some validity. Romo is a top ten quarterback. If he wins a ring, and continues to put up the stats he has, it will only further increase his reputation. Of course, for this team to succeed in the postseason, they need the defense to improve and the offensive line to at the very least be consistent.
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TheStarStillShines
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| Desperado82 wrote: | So...if it's all about winning...then Trent Dilfer is a better QB than Dan Marino, and is on equal footing with the likes of Favre, Manning, Brees, Rodgers, etc. Interesting.
In the grand scheme of things, Romo is right...his stats don't matter if the rest of the team can't live up to their end of the bargain and not fall apart at critical times. But as far as judging him as a quarterback...they do hold some validity. Romo is a top ten quarterback. If he wins a ring, and continues to put up the stats he has, it will only further increase his reputation. Of course, for this team to succeed in the postseason, they need the defense to improve and the offensive line to at the very least be consistent. |
The Dilfer example is a red herring and you know it. It's a lame argument. Dilfer is a champion, but it doesn't mean he's a better QB than Marino as one's entire body of work must be considered. Also, Dilfer won one championship in large part to a great defence. TB won in spite of him. You cannot say that about the Boys, as Aikman was a huge part of the team's success. Aikman elevated his play in the post-season, which is why he's considered one of the best post-season QBs to ever play.
Like Marino, Romo needs to play well in the post-season. He only has played 4 playoff games, but his numbers are quite pedestrian:
59.3 completion %, 208 yards/game, 6.16 Y/A, 4 TDs, 2 INTs, 80.8 QB Rating.
Football obviously is a team game, but for a team to succeed its QB must play at a high level. That's difficult to do year-in, year-out during the post-season, but the best are able to do it. For Romo, that's his challenge - to get the team into the playoffs and then to play extremely well in January. He's only had one post-season game where he was excellent, and not surprisingly the team won.
When you look at the post-season stats for some of the best QBs in recent history (Joe Montana, Tom Brady, Troy Aikman, Peyton Manning), their career post-season QB ratings are over 87, and their SB runs had them in the 90s and higher (Brady's first SB run is an exception). Even Terry Bradshaw had SB runs where his post-season QB rating was well above 90, and he played in an era where the passing game wasn't very prolific and he wasn't a great regular-season QB. His post-season QB rating is actually 13 points higher than his regular-season rating. That's a big difference.
So that's the challenge now for Romo - perform in the post-season. I think he's made enough adjustments to be considered a top-10 QB in the regular season, but he needs to deliver in the post-season.
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Desperado82
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| Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2012 2:26 pm Post subject: |
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Sure, Romo needs to play better once the team gets to the post-season...but so does the rest of the team.
Where would we be if Crayton doesn't drop the pass late in the game against the Giants back in 2007? Where would we be if the defense is actually able to stop a relatively mediocre '06 Seattle squad? Where would we be if the offensive line doesn't essentially disappear against Minnesota in 2009?
He's taken the steps over the last few seasons to improve, he knows what he has to do to get better and last season was one of his best years in the league and the team still finished 8-8. The rest of the guys need to step up as well in order for this team to reach its ultimate goal.
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TheStarStillShines
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I despise the Crayton excuse because it's just that - an excuse. The entire team, including Romo, had the rest of the game to play well but they didn't. Actually, the defence wasn't bad in that game, but the offence was awful. Also, Crayton's dropped pass occurred on the Boys' 17-yard line on a 3rd-down. There's no guarantee that the team would have scored on that play. Now, the Giants did score on the next possession to take the lead, but the offence didn't do squat in the 4th Quarter.
Romo in that game was only 18 for 36, yet people want to focus on Crayton's dropped pass? Come on. Romo didn't do his part and neither did Crayton or much of the offence.
I will admit that the entire team - including Romo - were overwhelmed and ill-prepared against Minnesota. The entire team seemed satisfied with winning one playoff game and entered the game with a deer-in-the-highlights look (i.e., geez, we advanced to the second round).
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