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PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 12:10 pm    Post subject: Offseason Thread VI (Reid is HC as long as he wants) Reply with quote

2012 Eagles Offseason Thread VI



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Offseason at a glance:
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2011 Final Record:

8-8 (5-1 division)
2nd in NFC East

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Current Front Office/Coaching Staff:

Jeffrey Lurie - Chairman/CEO
Joe Banner - President
Howie Roseman - General Manager

Andy Reid - Head Coach/Executive Vice President of Football Operations
Marty Mornhinweg - Assistant Head Coach/Offensive Coordinator
Doug Pederson - Quarterbacks
Ted Williams - Running Backs
David Culley - Senior Offensive Assistant/Wide Receivers
Tom Melvin - Tight Ends
Howard Mudd - Offensive Line
Matt Nagy - Offensive Quality Control

Juan Castillo - Defensive Coordinator
Jim Washburn - Defensive Line
Mike Caldwell - Linebackers
Todd Bowles - Secondary/Cornerbacks
Mike Zordich - Secondary/Safeties
Bob April - Defensive Quality Control

Bobby April - Special Teams Coordinator
Duce Staley - Special Teams Quality Control


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2012 Draft Picks:

#12 [1.12]- Fletcher Cox, DT
#46 [2.14] - Mychal Kendricks, LB
#59 [2.27] - Vinny Curry, DE
#88 [3.25] - Nick Foles, QB
#123 [4.28] - Brandon Boykin, CB
#153 [5.18] - Kelly Dennis, OT
#194 [6.24] - Marvin McNutt, WR
#200 [6.30] - Brandon Washington, OG
#229 [7.22] - Bryce Brown, RB


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2012 Camp Dates:

July 22 - Training Camp


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2012 PreSeason Schedule

Thursday August 9 vs. PIT 7:30 (6ABC)

Monday August 20 @ NE 8:00 (ESPN)

Friday August 24 @ CLE 7:30 (6ABC)

Thursday August 30 vs. NYJ TBD


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2012 Regular Schedule

1] Sunday, Sept. 9 at Cleveland 1 pm (FOX)

2] Sunday, Sept. 16 vs. Baltimore 1 pm (CBS)

3] Sunday, Sept. 23 at Arizona 4:05 pm (FOX)

4] Sunday, Sept. 30 vs. New York Giants 8:20 pm (NBC)*

5] Sunday, Oct. 7 at Pittsburgh 1 pm (FOX)

6] Sunday, Oct. 14 vs. Detroit 1 pm (FOX)

7] Sunday, Oct. 21 BYE WEEK

8] Sunday, Oct. 28 vs. Atlanta 1 pm (FOX)

9] Monday, Nov. 5 at New Orleans 8:30 pm (ESPN)*

10] Sunday, Nov. 11 vs. Dallas 4:15 pm (FOX)*

11] Sunday, Nov. 18 at Washington 1 pm (FOX)

12] Monday, Nov. 26 vs. Carolina 8:30 pm (ESPN)*

13] Sunday, Dec. 2 at Dallas 8:20 pm (NBC)*

14] Sunday, Dec. 9 at Tampa Bay 1 pm (FOX)

15] Thursday, Dec. 13 vs. Cincinnati 8:20 pm (NFL Network)*

16] Sunday, Dec. 23 vs. Washington 1 pm (FOX)

17] Sunday, Dec. 30 at New York Giants 1 pm (FOX)

*Nationally televised



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Current Eagles Depth Chart
Free Agent / Trade | Draft Pick | UDFA | IR / PUP (not counted)
Note: Reflects players under contract or on official team roster
Eagles Cap | PE.com Roster


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Offense [44] :

QB - Michael Vick | Mike Kafka | Trent Edwards | Nick Foles

RB - LeSean McCoy | Dion Lewis | Bryce Borwn | Chris Polk

FB - Stanley Havili | Emil Igwenagu | Jeremy Stewart

Z WR - DeSean Jackson | Ronald Johnson | Mardy Gilyard | Elvis Akpla | McKay Jacobson

X WR - Jeremy Maclin | Riley Cooper | Marvin McNutt | Jamel Hamler | Darnell Williams

Y WR - Jason Avant | Chad Hall | Damaris Johnson

TE - Brent Celek | Clay Harbor | Brett Bracket | Chase Ford

LT - Demetress Bell | King Dunlap | Jason Peters

LG - Evan Mathis | Mike Gibson | Brandon Washington | Alfred McCullough

C - Jason Kelce | Steve Vallos | Zane Taylor

RG - Danny Watkins | Julian Vandervelde | Dallas Reynolds

RT - Todd Herremans | D.J. Jones | Dennis Kelly | Thomas Welch

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Defense [42]:

RDE - Trent Cole | Darryl Tapp | Phillip Hunt | Vinny Curry

UT - Cullen Jenkins | Fletcher Cox | Frank Trotter | Tevita Finau

NT - Mike Patterson | Derek Landri | Antonio Dixon | Cedric Thornton

LDE - Jason Babin | Brandon Graham | Monte Taylor

WLB - Brian Rolle | Jamar Chaney | Keenan Clayton | Monte Simmons

MLB - DeMeco Ryans | Casey Matthews | Greg Lloyd | Ryan Rau

SLB - Mychal Kendricks | Akeem Jordan | Moise Fokou

RCB - Nnamdi Asomugha | Domonique Johnson | Cliff Harris | Wade Bonner

LCB - Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie | Curtis Marsh | Trevard Lindley

Slot CB- Joselio Hanson | Brandon Boykin | Brandon Hughes

FS - Nate Allen | O.J. Atogwe | Tom Nelson | Phillip Thomas | Colt Anderson

SS - Kurt Coleman | Jaiquan Jarrett

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Special Teams [4]:

K - Alex Henery

P - Chas Henry | Ryan Tydlacka

LS - Jon Dorenbos

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*Updates

Rotoworld wrote:
Eagles signed rookie DT Fletcher Cox, the No. 12 overall pick, to a four-year contract.

Rotoworld wrote:
Eagles signed No. 46 overall pick LB Mychal Kendricks to a four-year contract.

Rotoworld wrote:
Eagles signed DE Vinny Curry, the No. 59 overall pick, to a four-year contract.

Rotoworld wrote:
Eagles agreed to terms with No. 88 pick QB Nick Foles on a four-year contract.

Rotoworld wrote:
Eagles signed fourth-round CB Brandon Boykin to a four-year contract.

Rotoworld wrote:
Eagles signed fifth-round OT Dennis Kelly to a four-year contract.

Rotoworld wrote:
Eagles agreed to terms with sixth-round OG Brandon Washington on a four-year contract.

Rotoworld wrote:
Eagles signed sixth-round WR Marvin McNutt to a four-year contract.

Rotoworld wrote:
Eagles signed seventh-round RB Bryce Brown to a four-year contract.


Rotoworld wrote:
Eagles agreed to terms with S O.J. Atogwe. Signed a one-year contract.


Rotoworld wrote:
ESPN's Adam Schefter expects Andy Reid to remain Eagles head coach "as long as he wants."

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 12:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Brent Celek (hip and hernia surgeries) hasn't skipped a single OTA session this offseason.

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We've come to expect nothing less. Celek hasn't missed a game since entering the league despite playing through a string of nagging injuries. Celek isn't yet practicing at full speed, but there's no reason to believe he will be less than 100 percent by Week 1


Yeah Brent is a tough dude, as evidenced by some of the trouble defenders have had trying to take him down in the past.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 12:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Eagles special teams coach Bobby April was "shocked" to find CB Brandon Boykin still available in the fourth round of the draft.

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April refreshingly concedes his kickoff- and punt-return units were "terrible" last season. Boykin, Georgia's all-time leader in kickoff-return yards (2,663) and TDs (4), is considered the early favorite as return specialist. Undrafted rookie WR Damaris Johnson, the NCAA's all-time leader in all-purpose yards (7,796) and kickoff-return yards (3,417), is also making a strong run.


Love what I've been hearing about Boykin thus far. So glad we got a chance to draft him.

Having him as the slot CB of the future and our KOR specialist is phenomenal value for a 4th rounder. And I think if we can keep both he and Damaris (for PR) as our returners, our field position could be much better in general, and we could save DeSean from further injury on PR.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 12:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like what I'm hearing so far.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 1:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

can't wait for boykin to lay some wood in training camp and preseason

and btw what's the record for most offseason threads? I think it may be broken this year Laughing
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The cornerback depth and wide receiver depth are both odd and will probably serve as examples of why a team shouldn't have so many specialists. Avant and Hanson both are specialists. They can't do their jobs on the outside. If a starter on the outside goes down, the Eagles can't benefit from the game experience that Avant and Hanson have. The Eagles will have to rely on total garbage to start games on the outside. Riley Cooper and whatever CB wins the top backup job on the outside. The situation is even worse at TE. The Eagles have Clay Harbor who has proven to posses hands of complete stone and reports are out about his stone hands surfacing during these offseason workouts where players should catch virtually everything.

I believe the Eagles are too willing to lie to themselves about "building from within" when it comes to backups. The Eagles will go out and get free agents to start but I'd like to see the Eagles acquire more experienced NFL players like Evan Mathis and Derek Landri as backups. The Eagles spend too much time trying to develop guys that belong on the practice squad (Chad Hall, King Dunlap, Brandon Hughes).

Andy Reid started out favoring the acquisition of seasoned vets, then it switched. As I sit here and type this out I believe that Reid overall is better suited to coaching up experienced NFL guys and the coaching staff he has assembled supports that. Whatever Andy's system and vision are for a franchise, I think it is more for the experienced NFL player rather than the guy without NFL game experience. There are more detailed reasons for that like perhaps Andy having a better NFL scouting department than college scouting department, but that all falls under whatever his vision/system is for a franchise.
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what's the record for most offseason threads? I think it may be broken this year Laughing


Yeah, it has been broken. And although it seems like they have been going on forever, the Offseason Threads were only created last year, and we got up to 3 then.

I'm glad to see us getting through 5 already, and TC isn't even here yet.
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How about we talk about which linebackers we think make the team, Im gonna go with Ryans, Kendricks, Rolle, Chaney, Matthews, and Jordan.
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The cornerback depth and wide receiver depth are both odd and will probably serve as examples of why a team shouldn't have so many specialists. Avant and Hanson both are specialists. They can't do their jobs on the outside. If a starter on the outside goes down, the Eagles can't benefit from the game experience that Avant and Hanson have. The Eagles will have to rely on total garbage to start games on the outside. Riley Cooper and whatever CB wins the top backup job on the outside. The situation is even worse at TE. The Eagles have Clay Harbor who has proven to posses hands of complete stone and reports are out about his stone hands surfacing during these offseason workouts where players should catch virtually everything.

I believe the Eagles are too willing to lie to themselves about "building from within" when it comes to backups. The Eagles will go out and get free agents to start but I'd like to see the Eagles acquire more experienced NFL players like Evan Mathis and Derek Landri as backups. The Eagles spend too much time trying to develop guys that belong on the practice squad (Chad Hall, King Dunlap, Brandon Hughes).

Andy Reid started out favoring the acquisition of seasoned vets, then it switched. As I sit here and type this out I believe that Reid overall is better suited to coaching up experienced NFL guys and the coaching staff he has assembled supports that. Whatever Andy's system and vision are for a franchise, I think it is more for the experienced NFL player rather than the guy without NFL game experience. There are more detailed reasons for that like perhaps Andy having a better NFL scouting department than college scouting department, but that all falls under whatever his vision/system is for a franchise.


I completely agree with your sentiment here. But at this point in the offseason, the ability to add quality depth is next to gone, so there will be at least another year of this philosophy.

I get the feeling that Andy is banking heavily on some of the 2nd and 3rd year players stepping up this season.
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Hammertime52 wrote:
How about we talk about which linebackers we think make the team, Im gonna go with Ryans, Kendricks, Rolle, Chaney, Matthews, and Jordan.


You're probably right, but I wouldn't count Fokou or Clayton out yet.
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How about we talk about which linebackers we think make the team, Im gonna go with Ryans, Kendricks, Rolle, Chaney, Matthews, and Jordan.


Rolle/Chaney
Ryans/Matthews
Kendricks/Fokou

I have a hard time leaving Clayton (and to a lesser extent Jordan) off the roster, but it will be a numbers game at the end of TC, and I think he'll just miss the cut.
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Fokou was awful last year, he's good as gone. Clayton has shown to be nothing more than a situation nickel linebacker, and he certainly isn't strong enough to play the run consistently in a wide-9. A reserve who can only play one spot (WILL) isn't worth keeping imo unless he's on par with the starter, like Rolle.

Kendricks at SAM, Ryans at MIKE, Chaney at WILL

Then Rolle is the main backup at WILL, Casey Matthews is the backup MIKE who can also play WILL, and Akeem Jordan is the backup SAM who can also play WILL.

Jordan and Matthews are also better ST players than Clayton. Fokou is probably better than Matthews at special teams, but we need a backup MIKE so keeping Jordan, Fokou and Rolle makes no sense.
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I like Fokous versatility but we already have that, and Jordan is a monster on special teams.
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Where is that Jeezla guy who has a picture of Luke Kheuchly as his avatar. Or was he here only because draft projectors has us taking him?
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oland11 wrote:
Where is that Jeezla guy who has a picture of Luke Kheuchly as his avatar. Or was he here only because draft projectors has us taking him?


Sure he's around. A lot of people aren't posting right now because, frankly, there just isn't anything to talk about.
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