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BlaqOptic
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| RedGreenShow wrote: | | I don't mean to sound ignorant, but whats the big difference between Mike Wallace and Torrey Smith? |
A couple of 1,000 yard seasons?
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| sayheykid wrote: | | Eksynyt wrote: | | Some people on here brag about the Seahawks having a defense...where is it? |
It's having a hard time concentrating. |
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FourThreeMafia
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| Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 4:00 pm Post subject: |
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| RedGreenShow wrote: | | I don't mean to sound ignorant, but whats the big difference between Mike Wallace and Torrey Smith? |
Consistency and more proven.
Similar skillsets, but Smith isnt where Wallace is yet.
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| cluelessororke wrote: | | I am going to laugh in your face when they don't even sniff WR until day three of the draft |
Still waiting for your laugh.... |
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DawgX
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| Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 4:14 pm Post subject: |
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| Hammertime52 wrote: | Ill give this a go.
QB
1.Aaron Rodgers
2. Tom Brady
3.Drew Brees
4. Peyton Manning
5. Philip Rivers
6. Matt Stafford
7. Ben Roethlisberger
8. Eli Manning
9. Matt Schaub
10. Jay Cutler
11. Michael Vick
12. Joe Flacco
13. Tony Romo
14. Matt Ryan
15. Cam Newton
16. Carson Palmer
17. Andy Dalton
18. Alex Smith
19. Sam Bradford
20. Jake Locker
21. Mark Sanchez
22. Matt Flynn
23. Ryan Fitzpatrick
24. Ryan Fitzpatrick
25. Josh Freeman
26. Matt Cassel
27. Christian Ponder
28. Kevin Kolb
29. Matt Moore
30. Dan Orlovsky
31. Colt McCoy
32. Blaine Gabbert |
LOL at Dan Orlovsky being ahead of Colt McCoy! I mean... seriously? 
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green24
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| Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 4:15 pm Post subject: |
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| green24 wrote: | CB:
1. Darrelle Revis - Jets
2. Johnathan Joseph - Texans
3. Nnamdi Asomugha - Eagles
4. Brandon Flowers - Cheifs
5. Joe Haden - Browns
6. Champ Bailey - Broncos
7. Carlos Rogers - 49ers
8. Ladarius Webb - Ravens
9. Cortland Finnegan - Rams
10. Tramon Williams - Packers
11. Leon Hall - Bengals
12. Brent Grimes - Falcons
13. Charles Tillman - Bears
14. Antonio Cromartie - Jets
15. Brandon Carr - Cowboys
16. Corey Webster - Giants
17. Aqib Talib - Buccaneers
18. Chris Gamble - Panthers
19. Vontae Davis - Dolphins
20. Charles Woodson - Packers
21. Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie - Eagles
22. Derek Cox - Jaguars
23. Richard Sherman - Seahawks
24. Jabrari Greer - Saints
25. Aqib Talib - Buccaneers
26. Quentin Jammer - Chargers
27. Ike Taylor - Steelers
28. Patrick Peterson - Cardinals
29. Antoine Cason - Chargers
30. Asante Samuel - Falcons
31. Dunta Robinson - Falcons
32. Rashean Mathis - Jaguars |
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| jg6041 wrote: | | Jetsfandan423 wrote: | | So the Jets went paintballing yesterday. |
Did Goodson bring a real gun and ammo? |
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norcalraider510
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| Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 5:12 pm Post subject: |
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I'll do one.
Criteria- My eyes.
1-Adrian Peterson
2-Darren McFadden
3-LeSean McCoy
4-Arian Foster
5-Jamaal Charles
6-Maurice Jones-Drew
7-Fred Jackson
8-Matt Forte
9-Ray Rice
10-Steven Jackson
11-Chris Johnson
12-Darren Sproles
13-Marshawn Lynch
14-Frank Gore
15-Rashard Mendenhall
I'll do the rest later. You could put 2-9 in any order, its really close.
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GaTechRavens
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| Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 5:14 pm Post subject: |
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| DawgX wrote: | | Hammertime52 wrote: | Ill give this a go.
QB
1.Aaron Rodgers
2. Tom Brady
3.Drew Brees
4. Peyton Manning
5. Philip Rivers
6. Matt Stafford
7. Ben Roethlisberger
8. Eli Manning
9. Matt Schaub
10. Jay Cutler
11. Michael Vick
12. Joe Flacco
13. Tony Romo
14. Matt Ryan
15. Cam Newton
16. Carson Palmer
17. Andy Dalton
18. Alex Smith
19. Sam Bradford
20. Jake Locker
21. Mark Sanchez
22. Matt Flynn
23. Ryan Fitzpatrick
24. Ryan Fitzpatrick
25. Josh Freeman
26. Matt Cassel
27. Christian Ponder
28. Kevin Kolb
29. Matt Moore
30. Dan Orlovsky
31. Colt McCoy
32. Blaine Gabbert |
LOL at Dan Orlovsky being ahead of Colt McCoy! I mean... seriously? |
There might actually be a case for it. Orlovsky did quite alright last year, and Colt...well.
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| ArrowheadRage58 wrote: | | I'd much rather be in our position now than the Ravens, that's for sure. |
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pierrepet
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| FourThreeMafia wrote: | | Steelers546 wrote: | | How the heck is Dez Bryant ranked over Mike Wallace on some of these lists? Maybe he'll be the better WR in the future, but I really want to hear an argument for how he's better right now. |
Some people value potential higher than actual proven talent.
Some just assume certain players are going to be great, even though it doesnt always work out that way.
Anyone who looks at it OBJECTIVELY and who is better RIGHT NOW wouldnt even considering ranking Bryant over Wallace.
I like Bryant's potential alot, but there is no logic that can be made that he is currently better than Wallace. Bryant has better hands and Wallace is much more of a gamebreaker. Both have issues with route running. Wallace, however, has been more consistent and has proven himself more to this point.
In 2 years, Bryant could be up with Megatron and Fitz, but as of right now, I cant see how anyone ranks him in the top 10 or even 15. |
I agree, and as of right now, it is not close. |
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JammerHammer21
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| Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 11:20 pm Post subject: |
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| norcalraider510 wrote: | I'll do one.
Criteria- My eyes.
1-Adrian Peterson
2-Darren McFadden
3-LeSean McCoy
4-Arian Foster
5-Jamaal Charles
6-Maurice Jones-Drew
7-Fred Jackson
8-Matt Forte
9-Ray Rice
10-Steven Jackson
11-Chris Johnson
12-Darren Sproles
13-Marshawn Lynch
14-Frank Gore
15-Rashard Mendenhall
I'll do the rest later. You could put 2-9 in any order, its really close. |
Mendy over Mathews??? |
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Badfish87
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If I was going to pick a franchise receiver, taking upside and skill but not personal issues into account, my order would be:
1. Calvin Johnson
2. Larry Fitzgerald
3. AJ Green
4. Julio Jones
5. Brandon Marshall
6. Andre Johnson
7. Greg Jennings
8. Dwayne Bowe
9. Demaryius Thomas
10. Antonio Brown
11. Victor Cruz
12. Mike Wallace
13. Marques Colston
14. DeSean Jackson
15. Santonio Holmes
16. Miles Austin
17. Hakeem Nicks
18. Dez Bryant
19. Steve Johnson
20. Jeremy Maclin
21. Percy Harvin
22. Jordy Nelson
23. Mario Manningham
24. Michael Crabtree
25. Vincent Jackson
26. Steve Smith
27. Brandon Lloyd
28. Roddy White
29. Wes Welker
30. Reggie Wayne
31. Johnny Knox
32. Kenny Britt |
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BlaqOptic
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| Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 6:21 am Post subject: |
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| Badfish87 wrote: | If I was going to pick a franchise receiver, taking upside and skill but not personal issues into account, my order would be:
1. Calvin Johnson
2. Larry Fitzgerald
3. AJ Green
4. Julio Jones
5. Brandon Marshall
6. Andre Johnson
7. Greg Jennings
8. Dwayne Bowe
9. Demaryius Thomas
10. Antonio Brown
11. Victor Cruz
12. Mike Wallace
13. Marques Colston
14. DeSean Jackson
15. Santonio Holmes
16. Miles Austin
17. Hakeem Nicks
18. Dez Bryant
19. Steve Johnson
20. Jeremy Maclin
21. Percy Harvin
22. Jordy Nelson
23. Mario Manningham
24. Michael Crabtree
25. Vincent Jackson
26. Steve Smith
27. Brandon Lloyd
28. Roddy White
29. Wes Welker
30. Reggie Wayne
31. Johnny Knox
32. Kenny Britt |
Really?! Based on your own criteria?!
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| sayheykid wrote: | | Eksynyt wrote: | | Some people on here brag about the Seahawks having a defense...where is it? |
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texans_uk
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| Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 8:21 am Post subject: |
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| BlaqOptic wrote: | | Badfish87 wrote: | If I was going to pick a franchise receiver, taking upside and skill but not personal issues into account, my order would be:
1. Calvin Johnson
2. Larry Fitzgerald
3. AJ Green
4. Julio Jones
5. Brandon Marshall
6. Andre Johnson
7. Greg Jennings
8. Dwayne Bowe
9. Demaryius Thomas
10. Antonio Brown
11. Victor Cruz
12. Mike Wallace
13. Marques Colston
14. DeSean Jackson
15. Santonio Holmes
16. Miles Austin
17. Hakeem Nicks
18. Dez Bryant
19. Steve Johnson
20. Jeremy Maclin
21. Percy Harvin
22. Jordy Nelson
23. Mario Manningham
24. Michael Crabtree
25. Vincent Jackson
26. Steve Smith
27. Brandon Lloyd
28. Roddy White
29. Wes Welker
30. Reggie Wayne
31. Johnny Knox
32. Kenny Britt |
Really?! Based on your own criteria?! |
Britt @ 32 
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| DallasInHeart wrote: | | Buddy if you lived in Europe or ever gone to visit Europe you would know that over there Football is totally on a different level |
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epicMustache
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| Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 9:44 am Post subject: |
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Britt @ 32 has already been touched on, but Johnny Knox at 31 over Britt?
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| THE PACK MAN wrote: | | ... but the Packers wouldnt be as good if they had the 49ers defense. |
- Adopt a Buc -
Dallas Clark - TE - 47 REC, 435 YDS, 4 TDs, 9.3 AVG |
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FourThreeMafia
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| Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 7:33 pm Post subject: |
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| BlaqOptic wrote: | | Badfish87 wrote: | If I was going to pick a franchise receiver, taking upside and skill but not personal issues into account, my order would be:
1. Calvin Johnson
2. Larry Fitzgerald
3. AJ Green
4. Julio Jones
5. Brandon Marshall
6. Andre Johnson
7. Greg Jennings
8. Dwayne Bowe
9. Demaryius Thomas
10. Antonio Brown
11. Victor Cruz
12. Mike Wallace
13. Marques Colston
14. DeSean Jackson
15. Santonio Holmes
16. Miles Austin
17. Hakeem Nicks
18. Dez Bryant
19. Steve Johnson
20. Jeremy Maclin
21. Percy Harvin
22. Jordy Nelson
23. Mario Manningham
24. Michael Crabtree
25. Vincent Jackson
26. Steve Smith
27. Brandon Lloyd
28. Roddy White
29. Wes Welker
30. Reggie Wayne
31. Johnny Knox
32. Kenny Britt |
Really?! Based on your own criteria?! |
I was to say he values "upside" way too much over proven players, but then he has Britt, a guy with amazing upside, at 32. And I would say its character issues, but he says he doesnt take them into account.
In the end, its his opinion, and cant really be argued. If thats who he likes, so be it.
But I do fail to see logic behind some of them.
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| cluelessororke wrote: | | I am going to laugh in your face when they don't even sniff WR until day three of the draft |
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MaddHatter
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LMFAO @ Romo at 15 - utterly ridiculous and one of the worst lists in general I've seen on this forum.
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norcalraider510
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| Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 8:40 pm Post subject: |
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| epicMustache wrote: | | Britt @ 32 has already been touched on, but Johnny Knox at 31 over Britt? |
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