Training Camp Discussion

[njLawman5016]

I think contact starting today will start to seperate what is going to happen..

I can think of worse problems to have then deciding between JJ and Randle... I still would not be surprised to see Hixon as the opening day 3rd WR.

Hixon on KO, JJ on Punts (4th Receiver), Randle with some packages.


Mario Who??

[njLawman5016]

The bigger question:

Does Chase hold off Herz?

I know its only three days, but I hear alot about Herz and there is an upside there. We know what we get with Chase.....



To echo what others have said.... Eagles, boys, and skins all got better. I finally heard a sports caster report (NFL Network)that they think we got better at just about ever position and they dont understand what we are always picked last....

[Shockey1979]

[redsoxsuck05]

[Shockey1979]

[njLawman5016]

I agree with us beating the Pats and not getting any respect for it.

But I would not want to take a chance of making it 5 out of 6 if we meet them again at 47 in New Orleans.

But I guess that would be a "miserable" problem to have.... lol

[NYGiantsman10]

[HakeemTheDream]

I know Gilbride won't do this, but the Giants really should favor 4 WR sets instead of the prominent 3 WR sets that Gilbride relies on during passing downs. Considering the depth and WR and lack of receiving options at TE, I think this is how the offense would be most successful. It allows Cruz and JJ to play the slot, and lets Nicks and Hixon/Barden (Randle sooner rather than later) work the outside. It puts all of the WRs in their best positions to perform. With Bradshaw being arguably the best pass blocking RB in the league, so he could help from a protection standpoint. Just my thoughts on that.

As for some special teams, if Wilson doesn't have a prominent role in the offense during the season, he definitely should be the kick returner. A proven playmaker in that spot from college and it would really showcase his talent that everyone is talking about in camp. IMO, JJ should be returning punts this year. He looked shaky last preseason but got more comfortable when he got opportunities later in the year. I assume he was drafted partly because of his returning skills, so it's time to put htem to use.

I think Herzlich takes over at MLB sometime during the season. He has been getting great reviews in camp so far, and the Giants already know what they have in Blackburn. As long as his pass coverage improves, I think he is the best option in the middle.

Lastly, I have a really good feeling about each of our first three picks. I think each are going to be solid contributors sooner rather than later. I honestly think that Hosley might be the one who steps up the most out of the group. With T2 looking like a long shot to be back this year (feel for him), it leaves a void in the slot in the nickel package. Giants could play Rolle there, but everyone knows he prefers the safety position. If I remember correctly, Hosley was drawing rave reviews early on for having a lot of success in the slot. He just looks like that guy who can come in and make plays at CB. I also think Randle contributes more this year than Wilson, but that Wilson will be the better overall player down the road. That kind of explosiveness is gonna be fun to watch.
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[bballbkd1001]

From watching the practice the other day, barden looks good. Not only him, but EVERY. Receiver. We are stacked. Jj, barden, Reuben and hixon would be top two on 90 percent of the teams in the league. Cruz looked amazing. They made our secondary look like boys.


Oh and the best player on the field was Wilson. I have never seen someone so fast. Idk what his 0-10 split is but on the field, no one can catch him let alone touch him. He's going to put up 1200 all purpose yards this season. Book it.
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^^^ Huge props Rase on the Sig!

[GmenSeattle]

Save judgement for when they have pads on and...actually hit each other. That will separate the men from the boys.
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[GmenSeattle]

I'm also wary of our O-Line. Eli can't keep getting the snot beat out of him and getting up. One of these times he's going to fall the wrong way or get blindsided and then...we're hosed. Not making another run at a ring without Eli.
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[titwio]

Here's some good news:

[HakeemTheDream]

Didn't know where else to post this video, but it is essentially a 10 minute cut-up of David Wilson blocking and receiving during his last season at V-Tech. Here's the link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o2GWTGifHZU

Anyways, from what I saw, he definitely has his work cut-out for him if he wants to be a factor on passing downs. He did very poorly from a blocking standpoint. He too often engaged with the wrong blitzer, was unaware of others getting pressure on the QB, and really didn't put that much strength into the blocks he made. From a receiving standpoint, his hands aren't bad, but not very good either. He had his fair share of drops and didn't really get many passes thrown his way.

The coaches have their hands full with this guy if they want him to get significant playing time in the backfield. I know they have been constantly reinforcing the idea of Wilson learning his passing protections before he gets in there, but I hope they get the job done relatively fast.

Thoughts?
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[Gmen]

I think that regardless of what the coaches say about RBs needing to block well before they see the field, Wilson will be out on the field for a good portion of the snaps from week one. You don't necessarily need your running back picking up the blitz, even if it's a passing play. The idea of running backs running routes shouldn't be novel to the Giants. Wilson is too talented to be sitting on the sideline, and despite the stigma, Coughlin does like to get his early round rookies involved. JPP, Nicks, KP and Ross all saw plenty of playing time as rookies, and all had decent rookies seasons.
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"Has courage and poise. In my opinion, most of all, he has that quality you can't define. Call it magic."

- Ernie Accorsi scouting report of Eli

[HakeemTheDream]