Ponder 2012

thestonedkoala · Joined: 28 Jan 2005 Posts: 3801

Can we get rid of Craig Johnson? I know he developed Vince Young into a pro bowler as well as Steve McNair and Kerry Collins but he has done nothing for Christian Ponder.

ktarinze · Joined: 08 Oct 2010 Posts: 927

ArcticNorseman · Joined: 06 Mar 2005 Posts: 1432 Location: Fairbanks, Alaska

Guys - I was being humorous Wink

On a serious note of the comparison, Ponder is better at QB than Tebow, in my opinion.

Now, on a more light-hearted note -- this thread is nearly at 100 pages . . . way to go VD -- how many other mod's can boast that kind of thread impact on their resume'? Laughing

Finally, go back to page 1 and read UMN's post. His analysis of expectations for Ponder this year were statistics based and he really isn't that far off from what's actually occurring.

One other note -- if you look at the stat lines, Ponder's playing about like Jay Cutler, Sam Bradford and Philip Rivers. No, he doesn't have the total yardage some of them and his yds/attempt is 6.0 vs 6.8/6.7 for Rivers and Bradford, so I'm curious, are their fans ripping their QBs as volitily as Ponder's being ripped?

Mossburg · Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2012 1:46 pm Post subject:

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ArcticNorseman · Joined: 06 Mar 2005 Posts: 1432 Location: Fairbanks, Alaska

I totally agree the first quarter of the season, Ponder was on fire and we were all amazed and signing his praises.

2nd quarter got a little worse, and then Percy went down.

3rd quarter of the season was truly abysmal, and the 4th quarter has not started the way one would hope to see him climbing out of this funk. So, yes Ponder is in complete regression at this point in the season.

However, the team has changed its focus dramatically. Opponents found out the Vikes can't pass block up the middle, and the shortest distance to the QB is via the guards and center == that takes less time to kill the QB.

In the meantime, the Vikes decided they could run the ball and that effort in Seattle sealed the complete change in offensive philosophy. See when defenses stack 9 in the box, 4 or 5 of those guys will be on the side of the field Adrian's running to & one (1) will normally have a chance to get a hold of him and start a tackle. Adrian's winning that point of attack 30 or 40% of the time right now. The offense is no longer balanced, and it would appear the Vikes have lost confidence in Ponder.

I don't think that's the case. To minimize big play opportunities by opposing defenses, Musgrave is trying to find ways to move the ball while protecting Ponder when he is called upon to throw it. The team is moving the ball via Peterson's legs, not through the air.

That mode of transportation will not change until someone proves they can block DTs one-on-one and still pick up a middle blitz.

For good measure . . . I chuckled as I read the Moss vs Peterson thread . . . Moss . . . "making Bouman or Frerotte look like ProBowlers" was one comment for the ages. Now add in a Randall McDaniel and David Dixon at guards ---- hmmmmmmmmm, Ponder does really suck. Laughing

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PurpleMugen · Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2012 7:12 pm Post subject:

Analysis from one of the best writers at The Daily Norseman:
http://www.dailynorseman.com/2012/12/11/3751912/the-ponder-problem-should-the-Minnesota-Vikings-dump-Christian-Ponder

(Disclaimer: It's a long, but worthwhile, read).
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rpmwr19 · Joined: 23 Dec 2006 Posts: 16981 Location: Stillwater, MN

Nice read, thanks for that.
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