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 Posted: Sun May 13, 2012 8:19 pm Post subject: Since 1983, what Associated Press MVP is least remembered? |
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I say after 1982 because Mark Moseley is surely the least remembered AP-MVP.
So, this is for most SURPRISING MVPs:
83-Joe Theismann
85-Marcus Allen
86-Lawrence Taylor
87-John Elway
88-Boomer Esiason
91-Thurman Thomas
98-Terrell Davis
02-Rich Gannon
03-Steve McNair
05-Shaun Alexander
I obviously took out the guys I know will not surprise anyone because of their big names.
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Elway or Joe Theismann, the former b/c it was a shortened season (and tbh Montana blew Elway away in every category and he or Rice should of won, Rice literally caught more TD passes than Elway threw rofl), and the latter b/c Theismann's recognition has grown so dim that people remember him more as the guy who got his limbs busted by LT that as a talented quarterback.
If we go back a bit further most people don't remember Brian Sipe won an MVP award either.
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| Posted: Sun May 13, 2012 8:43 pm Post subject: Re: Since 1983, what Associated Press MVP is least remembere |
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| x0x wrote: | I say after 1982 because Mark Moseley is surely the least remembered AP-MVP.
So, this is for most SURPRISING MVPs:
83-Joe Theismann - outstanding season
85-Marcus Allen - 2300+ YFS
86-Lawrence Taylor - 20+ sacks
98-Terrell Davis - uh, 2000+ rushing yards and 20+ rushing TDs?
02-Rich Gannon - Gannon led the NFL in like half a dozen passing stts
05-Shaun Alexander - NFL TD record?
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perhaps I misunderstood you, but the majority of the names you listed were absolutely not surprising, at least not to me?
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| Willink wrote: | | If we go back a bit further most people don't remember Brian Sipe won an MVP award either. |
If you want to play a trick on someone, ask them the only Brown to win the MVP in Super Bowl era.
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| Posted: Sun May 13, 2012 8:54 pm Post subject: Re: Since 1983, what Associated Press MVP is least remembere |
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| kethnaab wrote: | | x0x wrote: | I say after 1982 because Mark Moseley is surely the least remembered AP-MVP.
So, this is for most SURPRISING MVPs:
83-Joe Theismann - outstanding season
85-Marcus Allen - 2300+ YFS
86-Lawrence Taylor - 20+ sacks
98-Terrell Davis - uh, 2000+ rushing yards and 20+ rushing TDs?
02-Rich Gannon - Gannon led the NFL in like half a dozen passing stts
05-Shaun Alexander - NFL TD record?
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perhaps I misunderstood you, but the majority of the names you listed were absolutely not surprising, at least not to me? |
General fans.
I knew Bert Jones won the MVP, but most people don't. Due to age or other factors.
Don't forget the majority of the forum wasn't even alive in the 1980s...
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DrawABlank
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| Posted: Sun May 13, 2012 9:00 pm Post subject: Re: Since 1983, what Associated Press MVP is least remembere |
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If your point is which of them are surprising in that "I forgot that guy was MVP" (rather than the awards themselves being surprising) then I'd say Theismann, Esiason and McNair.
In my befuddled consciousness, Joe T is just the guy whose leg got broken to me, Boomer is the idiot on the CBS show, and Peyton Manning won in 2003. But I'm a much younger fan (25) than most so that affects it. |
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Wait wtf a kicker won the MVP? 
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| Posted: Sun May 13, 2012 9:06 pm Post subject: Re: Since 1983, what Associated Press MVP is least remembere |
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| x0x wrote: | | kethnaab wrote: | | x0x wrote: | I say after 1982 because Mark Moseley is surely the least remembered AP-MVP.
So, this is for most SURPRISING MVPs:
83-Joe Theismann - outstanding season
85-Marcus Allen - 2300+ YFS
86-Lawrence Taylor - 20+ sacks
98-Terrell Davis - uh, 2000+ rushing yards and 20+ rushing TDs?
02-Rich Gannon - Gannon led the NFL in like half a dozen passing stts
05-Shaun Alexander - NFL TD record?
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perhaps I misunderstood you, but the majority of the names you listed were absolutely not surprising, at least not to me? |
General fans.
I knew Bert Jones won the MVP, but most people don't. Due to age or other factors.
Don't forget the majority of the forum wasn't even alive in the 1980s... |
*scratches head*
yeah, but Lawrence Taylor? Marcus Allen? Even very general fans know those names. Heck, my wife knows those names. Granted, she's a lot more of a football fan than most women (i am truly blessed) but I'm still not quite following what you're saying here. Some of those guys, I absolutely agree with.
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| JustisM wrote: | | Wait wtf a kicker won the MVP? |
A kicker who missed 3 extra points.
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| Posted: Sun May 13, 2012 9:43 pm Post subject: Re: Since 1983, what Associated Press MVP is least remembere |
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| DrawABlank wrote: | If your point is which of them are surprising in that "I forgot that guy was MVP" (rather than the awards themselves being surprising) then I'd say Theismann, Esiason and McNair.
In my befuddled consciousness, Joe T is just the guy whose leg got broken to me, Boomer is the idiot on the CBS show, and Peyton Manning won in 2003. But I'm a much younger fan (25) than most so that affects it. |
For the longest time I'd get sidetracked by Thurman Thomas.
I kept thinking Jim Kelly won the MVP in one of the Bills fourpeat years.
After that it's Marcus Allen because I just always assume Walter Payton won a 2nd MVP in the Bears super year.
I think I'll always remember Elway in 87 because it's the biggest robbery in NFL history that Rice didn't win it...
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| GaTechRavens wrote: | | JustisM wrote: | | Wait wtf a kicker won the MVP? |
A kicker who missed 3 extra points. |
Am I being trolled here? This is blowing my mind if it's true.
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| Ace5 wrote: | | GaTechRavens wrote: | | JustisM wrote: | | Wait wtf a kicker won the MVP? |
A kicker who missed 3 extra points. |
Am I being trolled here? This is blowing my mind if it's true. |
This is one of the few times in my life that I have been absolutely mind blown. How could we let this happen? Also how could anyone say "kickers aren't real football players" when they handed him the damn MVP??
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| steelcurtain29 wrote: | | Wait a minute, Shaun Alexander is a surprise? How? |
He will largely be a forgotten, rather overrated player. I can see it being a surprise in the grand scheme of things. Sure he had a great season, but I think Walter Jones and Steve Hutchinson should have won co-MVPs that year. Two potential HOF players playing elite football together made a scrub like Alexander look elite. |
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| JustisM wrote: | | Ace5 wrote: | | GaTechRavens wrote: | | JustisM wrote: | | Wait wtf a kicker won the MVP? |
A kicker who missed 3 extra points. |
Am I being trolled here? This is blowing my mind if it's true. |
This is one of the few times in my life that I have been absolutely mind blown. How could we let this happen? Also how could anyone say "kickers aren't real football players" when they handed him the damn MVP?? |
http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-network-top-ten/09000d5d80743057/Top-Ten-Season-Performance-Mark-Moseley
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