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JaguarCrazy2832


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PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2012 3:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ukdolfan wrote:
Just because a (select) few QBs who sucked early managed to turn it around doesn't mean Gabbert will too.

The vast majority of young QBs who suck early keep on sucking.


That is absolutely true, but it doesnt mean its impossible. The offensive weapons are much better just because of 2 guys and because of the better matchups it allows our #3 and 4 guys who were starting last year. Everyone knows what Gabbert has to do, but come on. He is still like 21, it was 1 year and there was a very short offseason for a guy who never should have started but DG was hurt and McCown obviously couldnt bridge the gap
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PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2012 3:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I believe in Blaine tbh....

He showed me a lot at Missouri, and showed me some things last year. But he was awful more then not.

I'll be intrested to see how he plays this year. But I do believe in him.
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PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2012 3:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BigDaddyNYJ wrote:
I believe in Blaine tbh....

He showed me a lot at Missouri, and showed me some things last year. But he was awful more then not.
I'll be intrested to see how he plays this year. But I do believe in him.


That is something everyone can agree on, but seriously:

How many rookie QBs that started week 1(week 3 i guess for blaine) had a steeper learning curve? Cam Newton is probably it.

How many rookie QBs had receiving targets worse than Jacksonville?

How many people thought he should start last year? Not many at all, but the back injury to Garrard and McCown's inability to play even average pretty much left Blaine our only option

How many teams had a RT like Guy Whimper who gave up a record iirc in 14 straight games giving up a sack?


Blaine obviously have mechanics issues which correlate to his poor accuracy, but that can be fixed. His pocket presence is awful, only time will tell how that improves.


Seriously though with all this: How well did you expect him to play?

No targets that can catch or separate
HUGE learning curve coming from his system in college
Shortened offseason already
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PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2012 3:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JaguarCrazy2832 wrote:
BigDaddyNYJ wrote:
I believe in Blaine tbh....

He showed me a lot at Missouri, and showed me some things last year. But he was awful more then not.
I'll be intrested to see how he plays this year. But I do believe in him.


That is something everyone can agree on, but seriously:

How many rookie QBs that started week 1(week 3 i guess for blaine) had a steeper learning curve? Cam Newton is probably it.

How many rookie QBs had receiving targets worse than Jacksonville?

How many people thought he should start last year? Not many at all, but the back injury to Garrard and McCown's inability to play even average pretty much left Blaine our only option

How many teams had a RT like Guy Whimper who gave up a record iirc in 14 straight games giving up a sack?


Blaine obviously have mechanics issues which correlate to his poor accuracy, but that can be fixed. His pocket presence is awful, only time will tell how that improves.


Seriously though with all this: How well did you expect him to play?

No targets that can catch or separate
HUGE learning curve coming from his system in college
Shortened offseason already


Your 100% right, the cast around him was terrible.

I wonder how well him and Blackmon will connect.

Jags should not give up on him now, and if he shows progress give him another year. But if he is awful again this year, have to go in a different direction.
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PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2012 3:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, no one is disagreeing that he was bad last year or that he can continue to be bad.

However, his potential, flashes, circumstances last year, and attitude and work ethic should not be ignored. We will have a much better idea about him after this upcoming season than we do now; people should not be so quick to write him off as a bust.
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BigDaddyNYJ wrote:

Your 100% right, the cast around him was terrible.

I wonder how well him and Blackmon will connect.

Jags should not give up on him now, and if he shows progress give him another year. But if he is awful again this year, have to go in a different direction.


I have said at least 30 times in the mock draft forum, if we finish Top-5, we should go QB because odds are it was Blaines fault. The defense is there already
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JaguarCrazy2832 wrote:
BigDaddyNYJ wrote:

Your 100% right, the cast around him was terrible.

I wonder how well him and Blackmon will connect.

Jags should not give up on him now, and if he shows progress give him another year. But if he is awful again this year, have to go in a different direction.


I have said at least 30 times in the mock draft forum, if we finish Top-5, we should go QB because odds are it was Blaines fault. The defense is there already


Yeah that was what i was pointing at in that post. The Defense is good, and if you guys unfortanately do finish at a point where you would be top 5 then you should start over again, unfortanately.
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