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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 12:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Jarius Wright proved that he belong on the active roster over Burton. I'm sick of these coaches valuing a receiver's ability to run block over their actual ability as a receiver.


When the team runs more than passes, don't you think it's important? Adrian isn't already over 1000 on his own, he still needs blockers.
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Klomp wrote:
LostRoadStone wrote:
Jarius Wright proved that he belong on the active roster over Burton. I'm sick of these coaches valuing a receiver's ability to run block over their actual ability as a receiver.


When the team runs more than passes, don't you think it's important? Adrian isn't already over 1000 on his own, he still needs blockers.


Recievers aren't blockers, period. It's a nice asset to have, but it's obvious you don't want to trade those plays Wright made for another blocker.

Burton dropped one easy catch, and made a good block down field on an AP run, but he was tackled by another defender before he got there.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 12:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kellerman wrote:
Klomp wrote:
LostRoadStone wrote:
Jarius Wright proved that he belong on the active roster over Burton. I'm sick of these coaches valuing a receiver's ability to run block over their actual ability as a receiver.


When the team runs more than passes, don't you think it's important? Adrian isn't already over 1000 on his own, he still needs blockers.


Recievers aren't blockers, period. It's a nice asset to have, but it's obvious you don't want to trade those plays Wright made for another blocker.

Burton dropped one easy catch, and made a good block down field on an AP run, but he was tackled by another defender before he got there.

Your first sentence is just flat out wrong.

However, I'm in agreement that whatever Burton adds as a blocker/special teams player isn't as valuable as what Wright could potentially bring to the team.
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I'm still concerned about how he didn't do much after his first drive. Either the coaches stopped playing him a lot after his first drop or Detroit started adjusting to cover him more effectively. His first couple of catches might have been because Detroit hadn't really prepared for him (see Joe Webb) so it'll be interesting to see how he does against Chicago and GB when they have some more tape of him.
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^ i'm not sure how creatively he'll get used. at first, it will probably be a go route and try to beat man to man coverage. opening up the soft middle of the field for Rudolph, Ellison, etc.

Ponder should eat his Wheaties and practice his long ball, see what we can do.
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rpmwr19 wrote:
Kellerman wrote:
Klomp wrote:
LostRoadStone wrote:
Jarius Wright proved that he belong on the active roster over Burton. I'm sick of these coaches valuing a receiver's ability to run block over their actual ability as a receiver.


When the team runs more than passes, don't you think it's important? Adrian isn't already over 1000 on his own, he still needs blockers.


Recievers aren't blockers, period. It's a nice asset to have, but it's obvious you don't want to trade those plays Wright made for another blocker.

Burton dropped one easy catch, and made a good block down field on an AP run, but he was tackled by another defender before he got there.

Your first sentence is just flat out wrong.

However, I'm in agreement that whatever Burton adds as a blocker/special teams player isn't as valuable as what Wright could potentially bring to the team.


Let me rephrase, you don't judge a starting wide recieve by his blocking ability. Recievers contribute way more in to the actual running game by catching passes and making plays than they'd do blocking, so a guy like Burton being able to block is nice, but a guy who can actually catch a pass is better. If he's a good blocker, have him pack on 30 lbs and become a FB.
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Leslie Frazier makes no promises that Jarius Wright will play vs. Bears
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 8:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Leslie Frazier makes no promises that Jarius Wright will play vs. Bears


May as well keep the Bears guessing, no reason to show your hand this early.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 9:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Leslie Frazier makes no promises that Jarius Wright will play vs. Bears


Doesn't he realize you can't go wrong...with Wright?!?
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perrynoid wrote:
Freakout wrote:
Leslie Frazier makes no promises that Jarius Wright will play vs. Bears


Doesn't he realize you can't go wrong...with Wright?!?


And if you're not playing Wright, you're WRONG!
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 12:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kellerman wrote:
Let me rephrase, you don't judge a starting wide recieve by his blocking ability. Recievers contribute way more in to the actual running game by catching passes and making plays than they'd do blocking, so a guy like Burton being able to block is nice, but a guy who can actually catch a pass is better. If he's a good blocker, have him pack on 30 lbs and become a FB.


We're not talking about a starting WR. We're talking about being the fourth WR on game day.
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Klomp wrote:
Kellerman wrote:
Let me rephrase, you don't judge a starting wide recieve by his blocking ability. Recievers contribute way more in to the actual running game by catching passes and making plays than they'd do blocking, so a guy like Burton being able to block is nice, but a guy who can actually catch a pass is better. If he's a good blocker, have him pack on 30 lbs and become a FB.


We're not talking about a starting WR. We're talking about being the fourth WR on game day.


Wright showed more as a WR in one game than Burton has in two seasons. Having a good blocking 4th wide reciever isn't the difference between winning and losing, having a guy make plays in the passing game does.

Special teams value and blocking might be a useful tie-breaker, but there is no tie to break here.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 1:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I understand that everyone is excited about Wright, but let's wait until he has made more than 1 play before we start calling him anything more than a reserve player.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 1:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[UMN] wrote:
I understand that everyone is excited about Wright, but let's wait until he has made more than 1 play before we start calling him anything more than a reserve player.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 1:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[UMN] wrote:
I understand that everyone is excited about Wright, but let's wait until he has made more than 1 play before we start calling him anything more than a reserve player.

The excitement about Wright is because he might be finally be given the chance to make more than one play and he might finally have the chance to replace a should-be reserve player in Jenkins or Burton.
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