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DavisIsland


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 1:51 pm    Post subject: Is Tannehill more similar to Marino than we think? Reply with quote

Now.........calm down...........take a deep breath, and relax. Before you blow up at me or post things like "HOW DARE YOU COMPARE THIS ROOKIE TO ONE OF THE BEST QBs EVER!!!!!1", realize that I am comparing the two based on there college days and coming out of college as prospects. So please, hear me out on this.

We all know that Tannehill is the easiest prospect to pick on in terms of failing in the NFL. If you ask 100 NFL fans who is the first round pick likely to bust at the next level, at least 80 of them will say the words "Ryan Tannehill". The odds and history are against him.

Now, taking a look back to the 1983 draft, Dan Marino was a big question mark prospect. Some teams would not touch him with a 10 foot poll. He had all the tools. That was obvious. The size, the arm strength, the football IQ, and the pocket awareness (sound familiar?).

While accuracy is one of Tannehill's strengths, it was something Marino struggled with in college. He also, like Tannehill, had questions about his decision making and was considered a very raw prospect like Tannehill. Both were considered fast learners and hard workers (although some scouts back then even question Marino's love for the game). Another negative on Marino was that he had very unflattering and questionable college production. He broke out for 37 TDs in his junior season, but also threw 23 Ints. His production decreased drastically in his senior season and only threw for 17 TDs and again threw 23 Ints. The Dolphins took a chance on him and selected him with their only first round pick in the draft.

Dan Marino's Selection in the 1983 Draft:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3rYgvyo8IU

Alot of analysts at the time either did not understand, or did not like the pick. They felt that they were ok with David Woodley (Matt Moore?), who led the team to a 7-2 record the year before in the strike shortened season (with the help of the infamous killer B defense, I might add) at QB and would go another route with their pick. But the front office realized that Marino had more potential than any QB on their roster and knew that Marino was their guy no matter what anybody else said. So they believed in him and took him.

I felt that that was the exact same thing that happened this Thursday night. The front office saw that Tannehill has more potential than any QB on their current roster, so they believed in him and took him.

Now I know that Marino was the 27th pick and Tannehill was the 8th, but in my opinion, that doesn't matter. That is the last thing you remember about a player in the NFL. What matters is if the player produces or not. They both were 1st round gambles. So it goes to show you that Tannehill has a chance to succeed. Maybe a much bigger chance than we all think........
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 1:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not ready to compare Tannehill to Marino.

However, I will admit that I believe Tannehill has the greatest chance to be the successor to Marino than any other Quarterback we've obtained.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 3:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

He dosen't need to be Dan Marino. He needs to be Matt Schaub.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 4:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Simply the topic prompted me to post a response of " stopppppppppp now " ........ Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 4:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I see where you are coming from. Don't forget that both guys have a similar quick release. Tannehill might be just a tad more athletic than Marino was though. LMAO
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 4:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know comparisons are inevitable, but let him become Ryan Tannehill and create his own identity.

Comparing him to others is going to increase attention and lead to us becoming over-excited after one game or vice versa get on his back if he doesnt do so well!

Dont get me wrong, i am buzzing that we have him, and think he can become a very good QB, but he wont do that by being like Marino/Schaub but by being Ryan Tannehill!
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 4:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

alant_8 wrote:
I know comparisons are inevitable, but let him become Ryan Tannehill and create his own identity.

Comparing him to others is going to increase attention and lead to us becoming over-excited after one game or vice versa get on his back if he doesnt do so well!

Dont get me wrong, i am buzzing that we have him, and think he can become a very good QB, but he wont do that by being like Marino/Schaub but by being Ryan Tannehill!


I wasn't comparing the two, just stating I would be happy if he became slightly above average, which is what Schaubb is.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 4:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

alant_8 wrote:
I know comparisons are inevitable, but let him become Ryan Tannehill and create his own identity.

Comparing him to others is going to increase attention and lead to us becoming over-excited after one game or vice versa get on his back if he doesnt do so well!

Dont get me wrong, i am buzzing that we have him, and think he can become a very good QB, but he wont do that by being like Marino/Schaub but by being Ryan Tannehill!


And lets not forget there is also the possibility that we could all, (if we try really, really hard), avoid any sort of Marino/Schaub (hell...even Pat White) comparison or (ahem) mention of jersey retirement until he's got.......oh I dont know....shall we say 72 hours passed being drafted
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 4:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Things Marino and Tannehill have in common;

1. Both are QB's who were drafted by the Dolphins

2. Both were scrutinized draft picks

hopefully Tannehill will pull through for us and we can add some more to this list, but for now this is about as far as it goes IMO.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 4:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, this is just a lot of words to say "People criticized Dan Marino when he was drafted, too. Maybe this one will be better than critics thought." There really isn't that much to take away from it.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 4:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

green4gulf wrote:
Things Marino and Tannehill have in common;

1. Both are QB's who were drafted by the Dolphins

2. Both were scrutinized draft picks

hopefully Tannehill will pull through for us and we can add some more to this list, but for now this is about as far as it goes IMO.


I would add that they both have quick releases too, and neither were particularly impressive in college as far as wins and stats were concerned. But you are right, they are different style QB's in a lot of ways. Which is probably a good thing since I don't think I could ever see Marino in a WC offense.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 4:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

FinsWin wrote:
He dosen't need to be Dan Marino. He needs to be Matt Schaub.


That would really be good enough. It'd be nice to not have to worry about the position for a decade, even if he's not quite Marino.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 5:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bpastermack wrote:
green4gulf wrote:
Things Marino and Tannehill have in common;

1. Both are QB's who were drafted by the Dolphins

2. Both were scrutinized draft picks

hopefully Tannehill will pull through for us and we can add some more to this list, but for now this is about as far as it goes IMO.


I would add that they both have quick releases too, and neither were particularly impressive in college as far as wins and stats were concerned. But you are right, they are different style QB's in a lot of ways. Which is probably a good thing since I don't think I could ever see Marino in a WC offense.


I agree that Tannehill has a nice quick release, but I'm just not ready to put that next to one of the fastest releases of all time ( unoffically of course ).
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 8:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are so many differences between Tannehill and Marino:

-Marino fell on draft day
-Tannehill was a climber

Marino fell in part because there was a rumor that he like the nose candy. Those rumors appear to be have been greatly over exaggerated, but he fell. He also fell due to rumors of bad knees. Tannehill was a big time climber. Prior to off-season evaluations Tannehill was thought to be a 2nd rounder. He rose up dramatically. As much as almost anyone in the draft.


-Marino was slow as a poke.
-Tannehill's greatest asset may be his feet.

Marino's career average yards per carry could better be measured by the centimeter than the yard. Tannehill is all athlete and his ability to throw on the move is widely believed to be his greatest asset.


-Marino was a 4 year starter
-Tannehill played in just 19 college games as a QB


Marino led Pitt to three Bowl games in four years, including a 1982 Sugar Bowl game that featured Marino throwing a game wining TD at the games end to beat a Hershel Walker led Georgia Bulldogs . Experience was one of Marino's greatest assets. Tannehill could not beat out Stephen McGee (Cowboys backup now) or Jarrod Johnson and played WR, something Marino NEVER could have done in a million years.


-Marino threw for over 8500 yards and almost 80 TD's in college.
-Tannehill threw for 5,500 yards and 42 TD's in college

Marino had a lot more experience and a lot more TD's than Tannehill. Really, by a long shot. Where Tannehill excels is with his TD to INT ratio and accuracy as compared to Marino. However, the WCO which Tannehill has played in is much more friendly from an accuracy stand point. That's another difference is the style of offense in which they played is dramatically different.



Whatever the case, I think these two guys are not alike at all. That certainly doesn't mean that Tannehill can't go on to be a Hall of Famer who sets every major passing record for career and single season in a long career.

The biggest difference I am hoping for is that Tannehill can lead us to the Superbowl and win. That's the difference I most hope for between these two.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 9:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Its threads like this that get people fired. Dude just let the kid play. Let everything unfold. There is no reason to compare and contrast what little similarities that may exist. The best thing for him is to hope Matt Moore picks up the offense and is effective.
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