If Claiborne and Richardson are gone...

Buccaneer4life · Joined: 27 Jan 2007 Posts: 3476

Just saw on ESPN that Todd McShay thinks Minnesota could be taking Claiborne and that it looks more and more like they are. Richardson seems like a foregon conclusion that hes goin to Cleveland. Why do all of the guys we really want get taken right before our pick? Rolling Eyes

. So if they are both gone they what do we do? Stephen Holder has been tweeting that he would not be surprised if the Bucs took Matt Kalil. I REALLY do not want Kalil. I think Penn has done a decent job and there are much bigger needs that drafting a LT right now. The best option is to obviously trade down. But if we cant do that then we gota take Luke Keuchly. LB is a huge need and Keuchly is the best this draft has to offer. Even if he is a "reach" at #5. He was the best option. I would not be upset if Keuchly was the pick at 5.

sandman2300 · Joined: 08 Apr 2012 Posts: 69

We take Kalil....

not even a debate.

If you have to pick top 5 in that scenario because we can't trade down...you take top 5 talent and that's what Kalil is- at the very worst he can play RT until Penn needs to get moved over

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PolarBucc06 · Joined: 06 Jan 2010 Posts: 143

If we absolutely cannot trade down then we go with Kalil and know Josh Freeman's blindside will be protected for the next 10+ years. He may not be a position of need, but he is the only elite prospect left and will certainly be a position of need very soon anyways.

indifference · Joined: 08 Nov 2010 Posts: 1334

I have to go Kalil here. Not only is he the BPA but there's a great chance he will have a better pro career than any reach we attempt to take. I'm not touching Kuechly in the top 5. I get the A.J. Hawk flashbacks every time I hear how about the possibility of us reaching to get him. Matt Kalil will start right away at either position. If I'm Tampa, I move Penn to RT and start Kalil at LT. Even though I think Penn could really be good on the left side with Nicks next to him. Letting Kalil and Nicks develop a rapport is more important considering Kalil will be here longer than Penn will. Either way, your getting a Tackle that'll play for 8-10 years at a high level. And I'll take that any day all day because the last top 5 picks we've had flamed out and didn't pan out to be the franchise players they were expected. Unless we get a very big trade offer in which we don't acquire a 2nd and a 4th, just take Kalil and don't look back. Draft the best player, point blank. If we trade down, then I'm all for grabbing a reach player in Kuechly at #10. With two seconds we can grab a RB, and CB. Third round heck, we can get a TE and in the fourth draft a safety. Taking Kalil will be a win-win for us.

tml_gogo · Joined: 02 Feb 2007 Posts: 11821 Location: Montréal

We need elite players. Kalil has elite ability. Take him.
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Lil' Shorty · Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2012 1:54 pm Post subject:

Take Kalil... really? Um no.

We have a Pro Bowl LT and we are going to take Kalil? 1st. No one takes a RT with the 5th pick. 2nd. Kalil is not fit to play RT in the NFL. He is to small and quick. RTs need to be big and maulers. Kalil is neither of these things.

If we dont get Claiborne or Richardson we trade down and get what we can. Taking Gilmore, Kirkpatrick or Kuechly while adding a 3rd or higher draft pick would be a much better option. You want a playmaker, get an impact defensive player on the leagues worst defense. Not an OL man. OL are not game changers.
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ChaoticBuc3125 · Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2012 2:35 pm Post subject:

the ONLY option is Keuchley. Kalil is not even an option and personally the Kalil people need to get there head of there asses. Keuchley should be the pick even if Clairborne is there.

The only three players on the board in top 10 we even consider are Keuchley, Richardson, and Clairborne anyone else and somebody needs a new job
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mzerv00 · Joined: 30 Mar 2009 Posts: 155 Location: Tampa Bay, FL

ok, im ready for my beat down....

Why no go with Blackmon in this situation? Everyone says he's not a no. 1 guy. So, he play no.2 next to Jackson. We can still pick up Miller in the second round. Our offense would be insane.
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YoungBucs15 · Joined: 14 Jan 2009 Posts: 3263

To me this is worst case. I prefer the value of Kalil at that point but i just see it impossible that we wouldn't be able to trade down with needs for LT out there. To me Keuchly reminds me of Curry with this whole talk of safest pick. He accels at almost everything but it's elite at 1 thing. That is the problem I have with him at 5, when you are picking in the top 5 you expect elite talent and to me Luke isn't that. Not saying he won't be a great player down the road, I have the same concern with Blackmon. I personally prefer Floyd and neither are top 5 worthy to me, top 10...yes.
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Lil' Shorty · Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2012 3:32 pm Post subject: