2012 NFL Draft Thread V.2: All General Draft Talk (2 Days!!)

chpjns15 · Joined: 21 Dec 2009 Posts: 1558

The sequel to the thread Looking to the Future: 2012 NFL Draft

Lets just kickoff where we left off!

And dont forget to answer the poll! I added all the prospects that have even been considered on round 1.
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SaveourSonics · Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 8:17 pm Post subject:

Man, we've been locking down threads like crazy lately Laughing

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Richard D!ck Sherman 4 Prez

outside_Insider · Joined: 29 Jan 2012 Posts: 1196 Location: Calgary, AB

Perry. Most with Keuchly in second.
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Sacks98 · Joined: 21 Dec 2009 Posts: 3507

Quinton Cople's for me but i would be fine with Perry.

imani · Joined: 03 Mar 2009 Posts: 21362 Location: Harlem, NY

I voted ingram, but it's tie for him and kuechly for me
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outside_Insider · Joined: 29 Jan 2012 Posts: 1196 Location: Calgary, AB

http://espn.go.com/nfl/draft2012/story/_/id/7797075/2012-nfl-draft-linebacker-luke-kuechly-tackles-every-challenge

This narrows the gap for me a bit. I love ultra competitors who love to play the game, study like hell, and can't stop thinking about it...people like Peyton Manning, Ray Lewis, ect..
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SaveourSonics · Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 2:00 am Post subject:

Probably fits this thread better.

outside_Insider · Joined: 29 Jan 2012 Posts: 1196 Location: Calgary, AB

My ideal top two picks are Perry then M.Kendricks. In regards to SoS's thought on KJ/Ingram> Kuechly/KJ- I would have to disagree.

I think Kuechly has proven himself to be a QB of a defense with his instincts, speed, coverage skills, pre-snap reads/audibles, and leadership skills. While I love KJ I'm not sure he has as good of intangibles to lead the D. If Perry is not there, I think Keuch is the much better choice.

Here's my new top 5:
1) Perry
2) Kuechly
3) De Castro
4) Ingram
5) Floyd/Blackmon
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SaveourSonics · Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 2:20 am Post subject:

Well, here's the thing in that regard.

KJ Wright was known as a leader on the Mississippi State defense. To say that Kuechly can come in his rookie season and automatically be more of a leader at the MLB spot than KJ could with 1 year under his belt is selling KJ short IMO. Considering he's went from a 4th round pick, to forcing our former #4 overall pick out of town, to allowing the staff to feel comfortable in letting Hawthorne walk; I think KJ has earned all the respect needed in the locker room to be a leader.

In this 3-4 under scheme (lets just call it that for sake of argument) the pressure needs to come from the LEO, UT, and SLB primarily rather than your base 4-3 which relies on the RDE, LDE, and UT. Now, don't get me wrong, KJ can rush the passer, but not to the level needed to be among the top 3 needed for the scheme to be run at full force. With KJ proving he can play in the middle, we need to find that unique talent that can both rush the passer on a consistent basis and have the athleticism to play in coverage when asked. Ingram is one of the few unique talents to possess that skillset, and I don't know if I could pass on that.

However, like I said, I do think Kuechly is the better prospect. You won't hear me arguing against that.
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C-Hawkin' · Joined: 30 Aug 2011 Posts: 232 Location: olympia, wa

C-Hawkin' wrote:
Additional thought- we don't need a super-stud at pass rush. Just improvement over what we've had, which is nothing. Any help will take pressure off the secondary & make opposing offenses change their schemes from past years.
Tatupu wrote: But there comes a point where you want to stop filling your team with mediocre talent and get a game changer.

"Mediocre talent" like Baldwin, Sherman, Wright, et al. You don't have to draft someone 1st round to be a difference maker. Y'all know it or wouldn't so many of you wanting to trade down. Especially when no one can come close to agreeing on who's even the best pass rusher that's likely to be available to us (or if we should take him @ 12 or screw around trying to get him a little cheaper by horse-trading), it just seems to me you gotta look closely at a guy who's widely viewed as a sure-thing if he's there when we're up.
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C-Hawkin' · Joined: 30 Aug 2011 Posts: 232 Location: olympia, wa

This has got to be the funest Mock I've seen yet. Writers must be getting desparate as it gets closer-

KC trades up to 3 for Tannehill
Jets up to 6 for Kalil
Hawks take Coples @ 12
Rams trade back to 16 for Floyd
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TheOsprey · Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 10:33 pm Post subject:

I picked other, because I still prefer trading down, but I am definitely warming to the idea of selecting Kuechly, although I doubt he'll be available. If we stayed at #12, I'd probably take Kuechly and move Wright to WLB. I'd prefer trading down though and adding picks.

Sakae99 · Joined: 16 Mar 2009 Posts: 17 Location: Chicago

After losing Hawthorne, I'm 100% behind getting Kuechly.
Just too much to like about this guy. KJ and Luke together= good things for the run D regardless who's leading.
Also liked saveour's point about Ingram, and have no problems with him or Perry.
Just no Coples please!

chpjns15 · Joined: 21 Dec 2009 Posts: 1558