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TROJANPANTHER
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Trade up to #9 for Barron?  
How much do you think it would take for something like that to even happen? A 2nd? Future 1st?
Probably about 1% chance of happening but hey a man can dream. 
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| MrDrew wrote: | Start getting mad now, because I think this is a strong possibility
| Rotoworld wrote: | | The Chargers "love" Alabama S Mark Barron and have discussed the possibility of trading up for him. Expected to be a top-15 pick, Barron is unlikely to fall to the Chargers at No. 18, especially with the Cowboys and Jets picking at No. 14 and 16, respectively. Atari Bigby is currently penciled in as San Diego's starting strong safety after spending 2011 as a reserve for Seattle. Barron would provide an instant upgrade to a secondary that lost Steve Gregory to free agency. |
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I've been calling this for weeks. I think all of the harrison smith love was a smokescreen for the guy we really want ...barron. Read somewhere that buffalo might take him at ten but if he makes it to seattle I think its a slam dunk we trade with them. I say our 18, 3rd and 5th, then they get their guy (hightower). Don't wanna give up our second though. But outside of that I'm fine with it. I like barron, don't understand all the hate in this forum, but hes aday one starter and an immediate upgrade over who we have. You guys will change your mind when hes laying the wood to receivers and causing turnovers next year. Plus all the olbs have big question marks (yeah that includes perry who everyone knows is a better 43 fit)...and the corners (jenkins and kirkpatrick) have weed issues so forget AJ taking one of those guys....telling you it's barron, if not, we trade down |
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Buck Melanoma
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My 2012 clusters ....
Round 1 - Pick #18
David DeCastro
Luke Kuechly
Donta Hightower
Fletcher Cox
Dre Kirkpatrick
Courtney Upshaw
Mark Barron (this one is for AJ, not me)
Round Two - Pick #49
Harrison Smith
Kendall Reyes
Dwight Allen
Stephon Gilmore
LaVonte David
Andre Branch
3rd Round - Pick #78
Josh Chapman
Kevin Zeitler
Jonathan Massaquoi
Chandler Jones
Stephen Hill
Brandon Thompson
4th Round - Pick #110
Juron Criner
Ronnell Lewis
Chase Minnifield
Isaiah Pead
LaDarius Green
Brandon Mosley
5th Round - Pick #150
Akiem Hicks
Audie Cole
Terrance Ganaway
Levy Adcock
Marvin Jones
Bruce Irvin
6th Round - Pick #183
Jake Bequette
Adrian Hamilton
Dwight Jones
Brandon Marshall
James Hannah
Lucas Nix
7th Round - Pick #226
Cordarrow Law
Brian Quick
Micah Pellerin
Nicolas Jean-Baptiste
Donnie Fletcher
Ryan Steed
7th Round Comp (250), UDFA's
Brett Roy
Coty Sensabaugh
Tank Carder
Eddie Whitley
Duke Ihenacho
Hebron Fangupo
Rokevious Watkins
Jarrett Boykin
Josh Oglesby
Blake DeChristopher
Tim Fugger
Dale Moss
Rico Wallace
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Stone85
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| Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2012 4:05 pm Post subject: |
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| TROJANPANTHER wrote: | Trade up to #9 for Barron?
How much do you think it would take for something like that to even happen? A 2nd? Future 1st?
Probably about 1% chance of happening but hey a man can dream. |
Um no.
If he's there at 18, AJ will prob consider him but we don't need to trade up for him.
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MrDrew
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| Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2012 4:10 pm Post subject: |
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| Stone85 wrote: | | TROJANPANTHER wrote: | Trade up to #9 for Barron?
How much do you think it would take for something like that to even happen? A 2nd? Future 1st?
Probably about 1% chance of happening but hey a man can dream. |
Um no.
If he's there at 18, AJ will prob consider him but we don't need to trade up for him. |
You're not thinking like AJ. It may not be a good idea to trade up, but that's never stopped him in the past.
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mgoblue44
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| MrDrew wrote: | | Stone85 wrote: | | TROJANPANTHER wrote: | Trade up to #9 for Barron?
How much do you think it would take for something like that to even happen? A 2nd? Future 1st?
Probably about 1% chance of happening but hey a man can dream. |
Um no.
If he's there at 18, AJ will prob consider him but we don't need to trade up for him. |
You're not thinking like AJ. It may not be a good idea to trade up, but that's never stopped him in the past. |
If AJ really wants him, he will have to trade up. No question
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Nextyearfordaboyz
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| mgoblue44 wrote: | | MrDrew wrote: | | Stone85 wrote: | | TROJANPANTHER wrote: | Trade up to #9 for Barron?
How much do you think it would take for something like that to even happen? A 2nd? Future 1st?
Probably about 1% chance of happening but hey a man can dream. |
Um no.
If he's there at 18, AJ will prob consider him but we don't need to trade up for him. |
You're not thinking like AJ. It may not be a good idea to trade up, but that's never stopped him in the past. |
If AJ really wants him, he will have to trade up. No question |
I came in here to see how realistic you guys thought it would be to trade up for Barron. I can promise you he isn't going to make it past #14. The Cowboys will take him there. I'm really going to be upset if you guys do make a move.
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MrDrew
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So does anybody have enough faith in Green to think that OG isn't as big of a need as it's being made out to be? We know that they're going to stick with Vasquez on the other side.
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| I don't think Greene played all that bad, and I don't see Guard as a huge need. At this point, does DeCastro help improve our team much more than we were last year. Our big issues were defense and that's where I see this focus. I love DeCastro, but Zietler to me isn't that far behind in skill. So yah .. I'm pretty confident with Greene, or have convinced myself that I should be. |
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The-Beast
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| Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2012 6:55 pm Post subject: |
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| MrDrew wrote: | | So does anybody have enough faith in Green to think that OG isn't as big of a need as it's being made out to be? We know that they're going to stick with Vasquez on the other side. |
I have no problem with Green as a starter.
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Boltstrikes
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| Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2012 7:45 pm Post subject: |
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| The-Beast wrote: | | MrDrew wrote: | | So does anybody have enough faith in Green to think that OG isn't as big of a need as it's being made out to be? We know that they're going to stick with Vasquez on the other side. |
I have no problem with Green as a starter. |
It doesn't matter who you put next to Gaither he will destroy the enemy defensive linemen!
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JammerHammer21
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| Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2012 9:45 pm Post subject: |
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| MrDrew wrote: | | So does anybody have enough faith in Green to think that OG isn't as big of a need as it's being made out to be? We know that they're going to stick with Vasquez on the other side. |
I think Green can be pretty good if he's motivated. We could still go DeCastro, put him at RG (natural position) and see if Clary is competent with the rest of the line being so good (loljk) |
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Duffman57
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| Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2012 10:32 pm Post subject: |
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| The-Beast wrote: | | MrDrew wrote: | | So does anybody have enough faith in Green to think that OG isn't as big of a need as it's being made out to be? We know that they're going to stick with Vasquez on the other side. |
I have no problem with Green as a starter. |
And it seems that he's been super motivated ever since he's been the starter. He's a great compliment to Gaither as well. Sounds like he's gonna go into came REALLY in condition and real strong.
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The LBC
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| Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 1:13 am Post subject: |
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| Duffman57 wrote: | | The-Beast wrote: | | MrDrew wrote: | | So does anybody have enough faith in Green to think that OG isn't as big of a need as it's being made out to be? We know that they're going to stick with Vasquez on the other side. |
I have no problem with Green as a starter. |
And it seems that he's been super motivated ever since he's been the starter. He's a great compliment to Gaither as well. Sounds like he's gonna go into came REALLY in condition and real strong. |
To be honest, I feel safer with Green than I do with Vasquez. Both are FA's after this season (and I don't believe with will qualify as RFA's under the new CBA since both will have spent 4 seasons on the active roster by the end of 2012), so I wouldn't be shocked to see a mid-to-late round pick on a guard depending on how much faith they have in Schilling to step up (though the fact that he's still being listed on the official website as a tackle isn't a great indication of that). Unless one comes on a severe bargain, I don't expect both to be with us past this season.
I've wanted, and still do to some respect, blame Clary for Vasquez's inefficiency at RG, but ultimately I don't know that he's ever going to be much more than serviceable to slightly above average... certainly someone who could be improved upon. The issue is that he plays a position that typically isn't valued highly in draft land and as such either will be challenged by diamonds in the rough or late-blooming vets (see Goff) and we don't have those on the roster presently.
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Stone85
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| Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 6:49 am Post subject: |
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| The LBC wrote: | | To be honest, I feel safer with Green than I do with Vasquez. |
Same
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