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REDandPEWTER
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Hey Vikings Forum, Bucs GM here. Just givng you some players we have on the block that will be up for discussion come draft day. PM me if you have any interest or would like to discuss.
Players I have on the block open for discussion:
- TE Kellen Winslow
- RB Lagarette Blount
- LB Quincy Black
- WR Mike Williams
- CB Aqib Talib. |
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[UMN]
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| Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 11:16 pm Post subject: |
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Does anyone know anything about Quincy Black? What about Mike Williams?
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[UMN]
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| Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 11:42 pm Post subject: |
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| Anonymous3 wrote: | | [UMN] wrote: | | Anonymous3 wrote: | | [UMN] wrote: | | We would be open to trading either our high 5th, or swapping 4ths for Rivers. |
Based on the value received in the first FFMD, his potential as only being 3 years removed from a top ten pick, and his moderate salary that's a very low-ball offer. |
Considering he hasn't lived up to expectations and is a fringe starter at this point in his career, we think that is about what he would fetch in real life. Rivers still has some upside, but so would a high 5th round pick.
We are not looking to be aggressive in the trade market and are just looking for low-end deals for players such as Rivers who can add depth and compete. |
The only reason he's a fringe starter is becuase he hadn't fully recovered from his wrist injury last season. If so, we'd have never signed Thomas Howard last offseason and he'd be a garaunteed starter. The Bengals would never let him go at a 5th round pick. We're willing to swap picks, or other options like that, but it'd have to be in a higher round. Again I'd have to talk to my co-gm.
Rivers upside, considering age and potential blows away that of a 5th round pick. |
thoughts?
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[UMN]
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| Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 11:44 pm Post subject: |
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| jch1911 wrote: | Liked what you had to say in your war room... so I just put it out to our war room about pursuing B-Rob and paraphrased some of your thoughts.
I think the early proposal would be something along the lines of a 3rd in 2012 and another pick in 2013 - like a 5th.
TBH I think his stats last year were skewed because (1) he was starting for the first time and (2) he was playing opposite Jared Allen. You can line just about anyone opposite Jared Allen and they should get 6 or 7 sacks... lmao... which is what we thought Mario would do for our defense.... ah well....
Once I get some feed back from my council, I will post in your war room.. |
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Lil Uno
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| Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 11:50 pm Post subject: |
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| [UMN] wrote: | | Anonymous3 wrote: | | [UMN] wrote: | | Anonymous3 wrote: | | [UMN] wrote: | | We would be open to trading either our high 5th, or swapping 4ths for Rivers. |
Based on the value received in the first FFMD, his potential as only being 3 years removed from a top ten pick, and his moderate salary that's a very low-ball offer. |
Considering he hasn't lived up to expectations and is a fringe starter at this point in his career, we think that is about what he would fetch in real life. Rivers still has some upside, but so would a high 5th round pick.
We are not looking to be aggressive in the trade market and are just looking for low-end deals for players such as Rivers who can add depth and compete. |
The only reason he's a fringe starter is becuase he hadn't fully recovered from his wrist injury last season. If so, we'd have never signed Thomas Howard last offseason and he'd be a garaunteed starter. The Bengals would never let him go at a 5th round pick. We're willing to swap picks, or other options like that, but it'd have to be in a higher round. Again I'd have to talk to my co-gm.
Rivers upside, considering age and potential blows away that of a 5th round pick. |
thoughts? |
Pass, 4th would be the highest I would go. 4-3 backers aren't a premium. We could likely grab a Travis Lewis or Danny Trevathan in round 4. While Rivers could be an upgrade over Brinkley, I'm content with our starters going foward.
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[UMN]
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| Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 11:52 pm Post subject: |
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What about something like our 4th for Rivers and a 5th?
That would value Rivers as a mid-4th. I wouldn't go any higher than that though.
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Lil Uno
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| Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 11:58 pm Post subject: |
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| [UMN] wrote: | What about something like our 4th for Rivers and a 5th?
That would value Rivers as a mid-4th. I wouldn't go any higher than that though. |
I'd be on board with that, doubt they take it.
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[UMN]
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| Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2012 10:07 am Post subject: |
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Talks for Rivers have stalled, we will revisit it during the draft depending on how things play out.
They said they might be interested in packaging Rivers and a pick to move up in the 2nd depending on who falls. I said we could talk about it as things progress in the draft.
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skatebeanz
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| Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2012 10:53 am Post subject: |
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Lions AGM here. Checking to if you guys are looking at any of our players. PM me.
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Iceman88
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| Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2012 11:21 am Post subject: |
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Hey guys here are the players we have available let us know if there is interest...
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Tennessee Titans Trade Block
QB Matt Hasselbeck
TE Daniel Graham
OL Eugene Amano
OL Leroy Harris
DT Shaun Smith
DT Sen'Derrick Marks
LB Gerald McRath
Positions of Need
Interior Lineman
DE
OLB
Others feel free to ask, send all offers or questions to me via PM |
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Desmond
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| Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2012 11:27 am Post subject: |
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What value would you guys want for #3 if the Chiefs were interested in dealing up from #11? Just curious, GM here.
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[UMN]
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| Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2012 11:32 am Post subject: |
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| Desmond wrote: | | What value would you guys want for #3 if the Chiefs were interested in dealing up from #11? Just curious, GM here. |
Pretty much what is listed on the trade chart, but we will listen to any offers. We will take future picks, young players, etc.
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[UMN]
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| Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2012 5:21 pm Post subject: |
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I received an offer for Robison:
Robison
6th
7th
7th
for
3rd
2013 3rd
it values Robison at 400 points on the trade chart (mid-2nd).
What do you guys think?
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wcblack34
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| Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2012 5:39 pm Post subject: |
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| [UMN] wrote: | I received an offer for Robison:
Robison
6th
7th
7th
for
3rd
2013 3rd
it values Robison at 400 points on the trade chart (mid-2nd).
What do you guys think? |
Nah. Regardless of the value, we already know what we have in Robison, no need to open up another hole. |
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swiss_vike
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| Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2012 5:54 pm Post subject: |
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| [UMN] wrote: | I received an offer for Robison:
Robison
6th
7th
7th
for
3rd
2013 3rd
it values Robison at 400 points on the trade chart (mid-2nd).
What do you guys think? |
if it's a high 3rd rounder, I'd do it.
would free up griffin at the DE spot. Despite reasonably good play by robison, I'm not sold on him. Disappears a little too often for my taste and has problems finishing his moves.
Sure, it's a bit of a gamble, I'd take it. This draft is loaded with talent from mid-2 to mid-4. |
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