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TheStarStillShines
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 Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 4:36 pm Post subject: Free Agency: All teams around the league except Dallas |
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With the SB over, it's time to focus on free agency. Post any and all rumors here as well as FA signings.
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buckman87
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Is this thread meant solely for Rumors and Signings? Well regardless, after watching the Giants win yet another Super Bowl, what I want most is pass rush help.
Forget giving big money to an offensive guard or a DE in the 3-4. I mean, do you guys seriously want to put all of our money into one of those positions? I sure as heck don't. Which is why we MUST end up with either Mario Williams or Cliff Avril. I know they are both prototypical 4-3 defensive ends, but both at least seem athletic enough to make the move. Both are impact rushers, players the opposing o-line and quarterback have to account for pre-snap on every single play.
As our roster stands now, not including the upcoming draft which could affect various postitions, I would feel much more comfortable in rolling with Arkin/Nagy/Kowalski at guard, our current D-line, and adding Williams or Avril than signing Carl Nicks or Calais Campbell and depending on Victor Butler and Alex Albright to provide pressure.[/u] |
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emmittsmith22
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| buckman87 wrote: | Is this thread meant solely for Rumors and Signings? Well regardless, after watching the Giants win yet another Super Bowl, what I want most is pass rush help.
Forget giving big money to an offensive guard or a DE in the 3-4. I mean, do you guys seriously want to put all of our money into one of those positions? I sure as heck don't. Which is why we MUST end up with either Mario Williams or Cliff Avril. I know they are both prototypical 4-3 defensive ends, but both at least seem athletic enough to make the move. Both are impact rushers, players the opposing o-line and quarterback have to account for pre-snap on every single play.
As our roster stands now, not including the upcoming draft which could affect various postitions, I would feel much more comfortable in rolling with Arkin/Nagy/Kowalski at guard, our current D-line, and adding Williams or Avril than signing Carl Nicks or Calais Campbell and depending on Victor Butler and Alex Albright to provide pressure.[/u] |
Or we draft Courtney Upshaw and sign Carl Nicks. I'd be cool with either doing that, or signing Mario Williams and drafting DeCastro, but not addressing Oline would be just as stupid as not addressing pass rush. Good thing is we can easily do both.
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buckman87
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I mean I cannot justify giving 50-60 million dollars to an offensive guard. It makes no sense to me. That is the kind of money you give your Franchise Left Tackle, which we will need to do in 3 years when T. Smith's rookie deal is up.
It may be a moot point anyway, thinking about all of these "prized" free agents coming to our club. Unless I heard wrong, all teams need to fill bascially all available cap space by the start of this season. If that is true, than the teams like Tampa and Carolina and the Bengals will have like 30 to 60 million dollars in cap space they have to burn. We may not even be able to afford the big money players.
That being said, maybe we come back down to earth from the Nicks/Williams/Avril/Campbell/Finnegan/T. Branch/Carr scenarios and start considering guys like Ahmad Brooks. Good, solid players but maybe not the elite and expensive guys. |
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ThaBoyzAndThaU
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Ahmad Brooks would be a good signing but is he really a upgrade over Spencer?
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plan9misfit
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| ThaBoyzAndThaU wrote: | | Ahmad Brooks would be a good signing but is he really a upgrade over Spencer? |
Brooks is a much better ILB than an OLB.
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On DallasCowboys.com, they're talking about Dallas signing Kyle Orton. Of course, that's what the fans want. As you know when he was waived by the Broncos, Dallas was one of the 1st teams to put in claim for him. Later on, the Chiefs got him. He's a free agent again, so signing him is now possible this March 13th.
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Kyle Orton would make a lot of sense to bring here as a backup, but I have the feeling he's going to find somewhere that will give him the opportunity to start.
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| emmittsmith22 wrote: | | buckman87 wrote: | Is this thread meant solely for Rumors and Signings? Well regardless, after watching the Giants win yet another Super Bowl, what I want most is pass rush help.
Forget giving big money to an offensive guard or a DE in the 3-4. I mean, do you guys seriously want to put all of our money into one of those positions? I sure as heck don't. Which is why we MUST end up with either Mario Williams or Cliff Avril. I know they are both prototypical 4-3 defensive ends, but both at least seem athletic enough to make the move. Both are impact rushers, players the opposing o-line and quarterback have to account for pre-snap on every single play.
As our roster stands now, not including the upcoming draft which could affect various postitions, I would feel much more comfortable in rolling with Arkin/Nagy/Kowalski at guard, our current D-line, and adding Williams or Avril than signing Carl Nicks or Calais Campbell and depending on Victor Butler and Alex Albright to provide pressure.[/u] |
Or we draft Courtney Upshaw and sign Carl Nicks. I'd be cool with either doing that, or signing Mario Williams and drafting DeCastro, but not addressing Oline would be just as stupid as not addressing pass rush. Good thing is we can easily do both. |
I believe this is the best option, and either one would be fine with me. Top $ to one line, and top pick to the other. Also, I don't like the sound of 50-60M to an OG, BUT, I think Nicks or Grubbs, who are proven studs, would be better for Murray and our run game, as well as protecting our franchise. I just think a little experience is better for the OL than it is needed for a pass rusher. I believe Upshaw would help Ware similarly to what Williams would, but Nicks/Grubbs would be far better than DeCastro. Regardless of how good he MAY BECOME, OL always take a year or two to really reach their potential. But rookie pass rushers are all the rage! |
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TheStarStillShines
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Could LaRon Landry be on the Boys' radar?
http://www.dallascowboys.com/news/news.cfm?id=634DB849-B076-C8CA-E7EE742CFE71524E
I think he would be a great addition to the secondary if he's healthy. He has great speed, great range, and is a punishing hitter. His addition would allow Ryan to do a lot of different things with the defence, including using some "46" packages.
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It all depends on his health. But a healthy Landry would be an absolute stud for us.
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If he is healthy, that signing would not suck. I was a HUGE fan of his at LSU and wanted us to draft him in 2007 before he skyrocketed up the draft boards.
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Tony7188
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| plan9misfit wrote: |
If he is healthy, that signing would not suck. I was a HUGE fan of his at LSU and wanted us to draft him in 2007 before he skyrocketed up the draft boards. |
Idk, I coulda swore Landry sucked at coverage... leading him to get burnt numerous times and leading to his infamous play against Desean Jackson. Where he got burnt so bad they still show it under highlight reels on ESPN
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| buckman87 wrote: | I mean I cannot justify giving 50-60 million dollars to an offensive guard. It makes no sense to me. That is the kind of money you give your Franchise Left Tackle, which we will need to do in 3 years when T. Smith's rookie deal is up.
It may be a moot point anyway, thinking about all of these "prized" free agents coming to our club. Unless I heard wrong, all teams need to fill bascially all available cap space by the start of this season. If that is true, than the teams like Tampa and Carolina and the Bengals will have like 30 to 60 million dollars in cap space they have to burn. We may not even be able to afford the big money players.
That being said, maybe we come back down to earth from the Nicks/Williams/Avril/Campbell/Finnegan/T. Branch/Carr scenarios and start considering guys like Ahmad Brooks. Good, solid players but maybe not the elite and expensive guys. |
Here's a good article on the mandatory spending...
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/30/per-team-spending-minimum-doesnt-apply-until-2013/
It doesn't go in effect until 2013.
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plan9misfit
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| Tony7188 wrote: | | plan9misfit wrote: |
If he is healthy, that signing would not suck. I was a HUGE fan of his at LSU and wanted us to draft him in 2007 before he skyrocketed up the draft boards. |
Idk, I coulda swore Landry sucked at coverage... leading him to get burnt numerous times and leading to his infamous play against Desean Jackson. Where he got burnt so bad they still show it under highlight reels on ESPN |
Name one DB whom DeSean Jackson hasn't burned. LaRon Landry is a SS, so he's not going to excel in pass coverage, but he is more than adequate if he's healthy. Is he the best? No. Not by a longshot. But, if healthy (which is one of the reasons why he's struggled these last few seasons - he NEEDS that achilles surgery), I think he'd be a solid contributor to our team. We'd finally have a guy who would make opposing WRs afraid to go across the middle of the field. I'll take one 15-yard "defenseless receiver" (b.s.) penalty if it means shutting down the passing lanes between the hash marks for the rest of the game. That alone makes all 4 LBs better because none of them will have to drop into coverage.
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