Compensatory Picks

ArcticNorseman · Joined: 06 Mar 2005 Posts: 1431 Location: Fairbanks, Alaska

Like most, I believe the Vikes will get one or two compensatory draft picks in 2012; however, in all these mock drafts it seems everyone's believing the Vikes will get a 3rd Rd and a 4th Rd.

How does one determine what a team deserves as compensatory picks?

If it were based on, the player lost vs production . . . I can't see where Rice would be worth more than a 5th Rd pick and Edwards about the same, maybe a 6th or 7th.

Rice had one injury-free year where he was stellar. Edwards has been developing and might well be in for a big year this year, but last year he wasn't quite as good as hyped.

I would love to get what the mocks have been claiming, but I just hope we're not counting our chickens before the eggs hatch . . .

Freakout · Joined: 05 Mar 2007 Posts: 1768

Normally money is a big factor in it.

The Gnat · Joined: 23 Feb 2005 Posts: 34118 Location: Minneapolis

Generally it comes down to players lost and their salary, so the Vikings lost Rice and Edwards that would qualify, and because of their contracts they are probably looking in the 3rd and 4th (one guy who delved into the details had them at that), and they will likely get a 7th as well. The comp picks have to add up to 32, so at the end of the 7th after any 7th comp picks are handed out for player, they start at the draft order for the first round and go up, so the Vikings will likely have one of the last picks in the draft.
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CriminalMind · Joined: 25 Aug 2011 Posts: 2965 Location: Toronto, CA

There on field production is indeed less of a factor then the salary.

Why?

There lost to the Vikings is judged on what salary they commanded on the open market. The fact that he did not succeed as well on his new team didnt impact the Vikings at time of the decision. It was still a relatively "high" loss to the Vikings.

I think 1 3rd + 1 4th OR 2 4ths

Frank Costello · Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 12:25 pm Post subject:

It will either be a 3rd and a 5th
or
Two 4ths.

I read that somewhere no to long ago, take it for what it's worth.
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The Gnat · Joined: 23 Feb 2005 Posts: 34118 Location: Minneapolis

http://www.mockingthedraft.com/2012/1/6/2686334/2012-compensatory-draft-pick-predictions

http://bloggingthebeast.com/2012/02/03/2012-compensatory-pick-projections/

Two sites projecting them, don't know how accurate they are, but both would say third and fourth for the Vikings.
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Frank Costello · Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 12:43 pm Post subject:

Oops, I meant to say 3rd and 7th
or
Two 4ths.

Purplexing · Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 1:11 pm Post subject:

Consider why the Vikings will get 2 or 3 comp picks this year...

lost Edwards, Rice, TJax, and Leber. I don't know if they tendered offers to each, and if that is a requirement.

signed Ayodele, Aromashadu, ...and one other player?

If Spielman believes drafting is the best way to build a team over time, consider the implication of allowing some players to leave, and replacing them via the draft, rather than mainly via free agent signings.

The net loss of players in free agency would yield a comp pick or two.

Can anyone explain why I believe the impact of such a strategy focused more on drafting players than signing free agents is positive, but not significant?
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thestonedkoala · Joined: 28 Jan 2005 Posts: 3800

We signed Jenkins as well.

Doesn't also playing factor in, which is why Rice's compensation might be a bit lower?

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Heavydan85 · Joined: 28 Mar 2006 Posts: 925

wasn't Aroshamadu cut? he wouldn't be factored in if he was cut, i believe. Last i knew it only mattered for FAs that reached the end of their contract and moved on.
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fishtanked · Joined: 15 Mar 2008 Posts: 620 Location: Canada

The guy from mocking the draft tends to be very good at predicting comp picks and he thinks we should get a 3, 4 and a 7th. I hope he is right.

Re: Jenkins- he was cut so doesn't count as an added fa.
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ArcticNorseman · Joined: 06 Mar 2005 Posts: 1431 Location: Fairbanks, Alaska

Thanks for the feedback . . . it'll be curious what the league really does over the next two weeks for compensatory picks, as well as pulling the Saints' draft picks . . . should they lose their 1st and 2nd round picks, that will be two extra players to be considered.

If I recall Michael Jenkins ended the season on IR, didn't he? So, that wouldn't be classified as being cut.

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