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PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 2:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like Glenn so no complaints here.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 2:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

JaguarCrazy2832 wrote:
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Why would the Eagles take a Tackle in round 1?

We've got Herramans and Peters already.


Alot of the games I've seen, it just appeared it was an issue. I know the interior DL/LBs could use work too. You have anyone in mind?

OT is not the issue, it's our QB who makes the line look bad.

If the board falls like this, I would go Kendall Wright or Michael Floyd there. (I prefer Wright, personally)
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 2:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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JaguarCrazy2832 wrote:
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Why would the Eagles take a Tackle in round 1?

We've got Herramans and Peters already.


Alot of the games I've seen, it just appeared it was an issue. I know the interior DL/LBs could use work too. You have anyone in mind?

OT is not the issue, it's our QB who makes the line look bad.

If the board falls like this, I would go Kendall Wright or Michael Floyd there. (I prefer Wright, personally)


Well, if we are planning on letting Mathis walk, which would be dumb since he would probably come relatively cheap and played good last year, then OT would be a HUGE need. Martin would be a good pick if that happened since he's good value and a position of need.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 7:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I will copy in a couple of comments I had from another forum as to why Hightower is not a good pick for the Ravens if we're looking at him as a ILB and in the first round, they seem like the least rage-induced ones I've come up with.

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Hightower doesn't have first round value nor is he a good fit at ILB for the Ravens. Our ILB spots generally have to be competent in coverage and Hightower is anything but. In fact that's probably the biggest weakness we have on defense right now. Hightower has value at SLB in our system but he's still not a first round pick.


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Hightower actually fits the roles that Johnson fills very well. Both are extremely versatile and they are similar athletically, and Johnson isn't relied on too often in coverage so we wouldn't there. Having Hightower with his hand on the ground instead of Johnson would be quite an upgrade, although with the emergence of Kruger and McPhee this year we didn't have to use him rushing the the passer quite as often. Hightower probably can't set the edge as well as Johnson but there are few who do it better anyways, if there's one area that JJ excels at it's that. Our ILBs really aren't valued for their versatility in terms of moving them around.


There could be more said but I think that covers most of it. I think Burfict would get a ton of consideration at that pick, depending on how well he does in the interviews. That was a big factor in why the team decided to take Jimmy Smith last year and so far that has been a great pick. Zach Brown would be good too. We have a need at WR so Jeffery or maybe even Randle are possibilities as well, I think the combine is going to be huge for the top of the WR class.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 8:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This sucks because the Eagles have no need for a tackle right now. Peters and Herremans are one of the better duos in the entire NFL.

Michael Floyd would be a much better pick at #15.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 8:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

coordinator0 wrote:
I will copy in a couple of comments I had from another forum as to why Hightower is not a good pick for the Ravens if we're looking at him as a ILB and in the first round, they seem like the least rage-induced ones I've come up with.

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Hightower doesn't have first round value nor is he a good fit at ILB for the Ravens. Our ILB spots generally have to be competent in coverage and Hightower is anything but. In fact that's probably the biggest weakness we have on defense right now. Hightower has value at SLB in our system but he's still not a first round pick.


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Hightower actually fits the roles that Johnson fills very well. Both are extremely versatile and they are similar athletically, and Johnson isn't relied on too often in coverage so we wouldn't there. Having Hightower with his hand on the ground instead of Johnson would be quite an upgrade, although with the emergence of Kruger and McPhee this year we didn't have to use him rushing the the passer quite as often. Hightower probably can't set the edge as well as Johnson but there are few who do it better anyways, if there's one area that JJ excels at it's that. Our ILBs really aren't valued for their versatility in terms of moving them around.


There could be more said but I think that covers most of it. I think Burfict would get a ton of consideration at that pick, depending on how well he does in the interviews. That was a big factor in why the team decided to take Jimmy Smith last year and so far that has been a great pick. Zach Brown would be good too. We have a need at WR so Jeffery or maybe even Randle are possibilities as well, I think the combine is going to be huge for the top of the WR class.


Thank you for the comments, being enraged isnt going to help me, but I appreciate the feedback on Hightower. Obviously I'm a jags fan, and am not totally aware of the scheme-specific needs Baltimore has with regards to their ILBs. Zach Brown or Jeffrey would both look great in purple n black
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 9:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Think Washington would have to give up a little more than that to leapfrog Cleveland.

This is about the only scenario I could see the Rams passing on Blackmon. I prefer Blackmon, but Claiborne would also be great.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 9:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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DeCastro is the pick for Dallas with this board, Kirkpatrick is not viewed as high at this point and Dallas has DeCastro as the top guard in the last 10 drafts.


U read my mind there sir
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 9:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JaguarCrazy2832 wrote:
coordinator0 wrote:
I will copy in a couple of comments I had from another forum as to why Hightower is not a good pick for the Ravens if we're looking at him as a ILB and in the first round, they seem like the least rage-induced ones I've come up with.

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Hightower doesn't have first round value nor is he a good fit at ILB for the Ravens. Our ILB spots generally have to be competent in coverage and Hightower is anything but. In fact that's probably the biggest weakness we have on defense right now. Hightower has value at SLB in our system but he's still not a first round pick.


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Hightower actually fits the roles that Johnson fills very well. Both are extremely versatile and they are similar athletically, and Johnson isn't relied on too often in coverage so we wouldn't there. Having Hightower with his hand on the ground instead of Johnson would be quite an upgrade, although with the emergence of Kruger and McPhee this year we didn't have to use him rushing the the passer quite as often. Hightower probably can't set the edge as well as Johnson but there are few who do it better anyways, if there's one area that JJ excels at it's that. Our ILBs really aren't valued for their versatility in terms of moving them around.


There could be more said but I think that covers most of it. I think Burfict would get a ton of consideration at that pick, depending on how well he does in the interviews. That was a big factor in why the team decided to take Jimmy Smith last year and so far that has been a great pick. Zach Brown would be good too. We have a need at WR so Jeffery or maybe even Randle are possibilities as well, I think the combine is going to be huge for the top of the WR class.


Thank you for the comments, being enraged isnt going to help me, but I appreciate the feedback on Hightower. Obviously I'm a jags fan, and am not totally aware of the scheme-specific needs Baltimore has with regards to their ILBs. Zach Brown or Jeffrey would both look great in purple n black


I've pretty much gotten past the rage lol, it's so frequent that it's almost expected. I figure that explanation is good enough. Trust me pretty much any non-Ravens fan doesn't really follow how our defense breaks down, it's not really complicated just not the typical 3-4 that most seem to peg us as.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 9:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

coordinator0 wrote:
JaguarCrazy2832 wrote:
coordinator0 wrote:
I will copy in a couple of comments I had from another forum as to why Hightower is not a good pick for the Ravens if we're looking at him as a ILB and in the first round, they seem like the least rage-induced ones I've come up with.

Quote:
Hightower doesn't have first round value nor is he a good fit at ILB for the Ravens. Our ILB spots generally have to be competent in coverage and Hightower is anything but. In fact that's probably the biggest weakness we have on defense right now. Hightower has value at SLB in our system but he's still not a first round pick.


Quote:
Hightower actually fits the roles that Johnson fills very well. Both are extremely versatile and they are similar athletically, and Johnson isn't relied on too often in coverage so we wouldn't there. Having Hightower with his hand on the ground instead of Johnson would be quite an upgrade, although with the emergence of Kruger and McPhee this year we didn't have to use him rushing the the passer quite as often. Hightower probably can't set the edge as well as Johnson but there are few who do it better anyways, if there's one area that JJ excels at it's that. Our ILBs really aren't valued for their versatility in terms of moving them around.


There could be more said but I think that covers most of it. I think Burfict would get a ton of consideration at that pick, depending on how well he does in the interviews. That was a big factor in why the team decided to take Jimmy Smith last year and so far that has been a great pick. Zach Brown would be good too. We have a need at WR so Jeffery or maybe even Randle are possibilities as well, I think the combine is going to be huge for the top of the WR class.


Thank you for the comments, being enraged isnt going to help me, but I appreciate the feedback on Hightower. Obviously I'm a jags fan, and am not totally aware of the scheme-specific needs Baltimore has with regards to their ILBs. Zach Brown or Jeffrey would both look great in purple n black


I've pretty much gotten past the rage lol, it's so frequent that it's almost expected. I figure that explanation is good enough. Trust me pretty much any non-Ravens fan doesn't really follow how our defense breaks down, it's not really complicated just not the typical 3-4 that most seem to peg us as.


And that is something that I did not know. Thats why I appreciate a little less rage and a little more feedback/insight/help etc.
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JaguarCrazy2832 wrote:
And that is something that I did not know. Thats why I appreciate a little less rage and a little more feedback/insight/help etc.


There wasn't any rage intended with any of my posts in this thread, sorry if you got that impression. The only reason I brought it up was to emphasize my dislike for the selection. If he fell to our 2nd round pick then I'd be fine with it, but only if Johnson leaves in free agency.
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Great Bengals picks.

DeCastro is fantastic at 17

Any one of Miller, Floyd, Jenkins or Glenn are good at 21


totally agree....
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Love the Vikings pick.
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I could see Miami reaching on Tannehill. If we dont get Manning, Flynn then it is fully possible that we could take him. We have his old Coach and QB coach on the staff so it makes sense.

I would love coples there more but solid pick for Miami
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 1:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

coordinator0 wrote:
JaguarCrazy2832 wrote:
And that is something that I did not know. Thats why I appreciate a little less rage and a little more feedback/insight/help etc.


There wasn't any rage intended with any of my posts in this thread, sorry if you got that impression. The only reason I brought it up was to emphasize my dislike for the selection. If he fell to our 2nd round pick then I'd be fine with it, but only if Johnson leaves in free agency.


No, it was more a general post than anything. You mentioned the rage so I just said I appreciate the info and not receiving any rage
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