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TheROARisBACK


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 03, 2012 7:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

stylish313 wrote:
TheROARisBACK wrote:
stylish313 wrote:
These things turn for the worst almost every time, for the exact same reasons.

SMH


Seems like you've been gone for awhile.
Thought I might've been working some people's nerves, so I took a break.

Don't look like I missed much though. Could've predicted this storyline weeks ago.


Yea.. Just the usual Laughing
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TL-TwoWinsAway


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 03, 2012 10:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Sorry to see we missed out on Martin, that was great value on the trade up for a position that we are in dire need for.

Drafting the right position and drafting the right player are two different things.
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Stafford without Calvin Johnson is a mediocre QB

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 03, 2012 10:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TL-TwoWinsAway wrote:
stylish313 wrote:
Sorry to see we missed out on Martin, that was great value on the trade up for a position that we are in dire need for.

Drafting the right position and drafting the right player are two different things.
I know that, I tried explaining it to you over and over when you were in Spiller lust.
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TL-TwoWinsAway


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 03, 2012 10:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

stylish313 wrote:
TL-TwoWinsAway wrote:
stylish313 wrote:
Sorry to see we missed out on Martin, that was great value on the trade up for a position that we are in dire need for.

Drafting the right position and drafting the right player are two different things.
I know that, I tried explaining it to you over and over when you were in Spiller lust.

These situations are clearly different, as Spiller was the right type of RB, and Martin isn't strong enough in pass-protection to be the LT on a team that passes the most in the NFL.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 03, 2012 10:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TL-TwoWinsAway wrote:
stylish313 wrote:
TL-TwoWinsAway wrote:
stylish313 wrote:
Sorry to see we missed out on Martin, that was great value on the trade up for a position that we are in dire need for.

Drafting the right position and drafting the right player are two different things.
I know that, I tried explaining it to you over and over when you were in Spiller lust.

These situations are clearly different, as Spiller was the right type of RB, and Martin isn't strong enough in pass-protection to be the LT on a team that passes the most in the NFL.
Spiller is a part-time RB that you were willing to draft top #5 and pay mega millions to.

Martin is a talented OT that has the tools to develop into a fine NFL LT if he puts in the work, and the cost to attain him came at a substantially less rate.

Yeah I agree, the situations were clearly different, and the Spiller lust was far more ridiculous.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 03, 2012 10:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

stylish313 wrote:
TL-TwoWinsAway wrote:
stylish313 wrote:
TL-TwoWinsAway wrote:
stylish313 wrote:
Sorry to see we missed out on Martin, that was great value on the trade up for a position that we are in dire need for.

Drafting the right position and drafting the right player are two different things.
I know that, I tried explaining it to you over and over when you were in Spiller lust.

These situations are clearly different, as Spiller was the right type of RB, and Martin isn't strong enough in pass-protection to be the LT on a team that passes the most in the NFL.
Spiller is a part-time RB that you were willing to draft top #5 and pay mega millions to.

Martin is a talented OT that has the tools to develop into a fine NFL LT if he puts in the work, and the cost to attain him came at a substantially less rate.

Yeah I agree, the situations were clearly different, and the Spiller lust was far more ridiculous.

Oh! You're applying hindsight to Spiller, which you can't apply to Martin. Got it. It's easier with hindsight, isn't it?

I know you were sure that Spiller wouldn't be a top 10 pick (and used a McShay mock draft as your reasoning), so that's probably why you're so upset with that whole thing. The truth is, a majority vote (without my vote considered) didn't want to move up for Martin. There's a reason.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 03, 2012 11:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TL-TwoWinsAway wrote:
stylish313 wrote:
TL-TwoWinsAway wrote:
stylish313 wrote:
TL-TwoWinsAway wrote:
stylish313 wrote:
Sorry to see we missed out on Martin, that was great value on the trade up for a position that we are in dire need for.

Drafting the right position and drafting the right player are two different things.
I know that, I tried explaining it to you over and over when you were in Spiller lust.

These situations are clearly different, as Spiller was the right type of RB, and Martin isn't strong enough in pass-protection to be the LT on a team that passes the most in the NFL.
Spiller is a part-time RB that you were willing to draft top #5 and pay mega millions to.

Martin is a talented OT that has the tools to develop into a fine NFL LT if he puts in the work, and the cost to attain him came at a substantially less rate.

Yeah I agree, the situations were clearly different, and the Spiller lust was far more ridiculous.

Oh! You're applying hindsight to Spiller, which you can't apply to Martin. Got it. It's easier with hindsight, isn't it?

I know you were sure that Spiller wouldn't be a top 10 pick (and used a McShay mock draft as your reasoning), so that's probably why you're so upset with that whole thing. The truth is, a majority vote (without my vote considered) didn't want to move up for Martin. There's a reason.
We spent months going back and forth over Spiller, and you're actually gonna pretend that a mock by McShay was my only basis for not believing Spiller would go top #10??? Desperation plea as usual.

As I've stated many times over, and everyone else but you can see it: Who cares where a bust was taken??? You would've taken him top #5, and blew tens of millions of the Lions cap on Spiller.....I said he was a part-time RB and should've been a 2nd round pick. I'm not feeling one ounce of embarrassment for stating that Spiller wouldn't go top #10, but had I championed him as the next great RB the way you had, I'd stuff my head in my arse every time someone reminded me of my Spiller lust.

LMFAO
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 03, 2012 11:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

lol
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 03, 2012 11:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

stylish313 wrote:
TL-TwoWinsAway wrote:
stylish313 wrote:
TL-TwoWinsAway wrote:
stylish313 wrote:
TL-TwoWinsAway wrote:
stylish313 wrote:
Sorry to see we missed out on Martin, that was great value on the trade up for a position that we are in dire need for.

Drafting the right position and drafting the right player are two different things.
I know that, I tried explaining it to you over and over when you were in Spiller lust.

These situations are clearly different, as Spiller was the right type of RB, and Martin isn't strong enough in pass-protection to be the LT on a team that passes the most in the NFL.
Spiller is a part-time RB that you were willing to draft top #5 and pay mega millions to.

Martin is a talented OT that has the tools to develop into a fine NFL LT if he puts in the work, and the cost to attain him came at a substantially less rate.

Yeah I agree, the situations were clearly different, and the Spiller lust was far more ridiculous.

Oh! You're applying hindsight to Spiller, which you can't apply to Martin. Got it. It's easier with hindsight, isn't it?

I know you were sure that Spiller wouldn't be a top 10 pick (and used a McShay mock draft as your reasoning), so that's probably why you're so upset with that whole thing. The truth is, a majority vote (without my vote considered) didn't want to move up for Martin. There's a reason.
We spent months going back and forth over Spiller, and you're actually gonna pretend that a mock by McShay was my only basis for not believing Spiller would go top #10??? Desperation plea as usual.

As I've stated many times over, and everyone else but you can see it: Who cares where a bust was taken??? You would've taken him top #5, and blew tens of millions of the Lions cap on Spiller.....I said he was a part-time RB and should've been a 2nd round pick. I'm not feeling one ounce of embarrassment for stating that Spiller wouldn't go top #10, but had I championed him as the next great RB the way you had, I'd stuff my head in my arse every time someone reminded me of my Spiller lust.

LMFAO

Before I respond (because there's a lot of garbage here to respond to), will I be criticized for having this conversation when you're the one that brought it up? Will it be "Oh, TL, can't you let the past go?" and "Oh, TL, why are you always arguing?", when there's clearly two in this conversation?

Just wondering how I'm going to be criticized for continuing a conversation that wasn't started, or pushed, by me in the first place.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 04, 2012 12:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm reminded of a line from the movie Lucky Number Slevin: "The first time someone calls you a horse you punch him on the nose, the second time someone calls you a horse you call him a jerk but the third time someone calls you a horse, well then perhaps it's time to go shopping for a saddle."
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 04, 2012 12:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I'm reminded of a line from the movie Lucky Number Slevin: "The first time someone calls you a horse you punch him on the nose, the second time someone calls you a horse you call him a jerk but the third time someone calls you a horse, well then perhaps it's time to go shopping for a saddle."

If it's the same person, or same group of people, who look for reasons to call people horses, you should probably take their comments with a grain of salt.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 04, 2012 12:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

TL-TwoWinsAway wrote:
Nnivolcm wrote:
I'm reminded of a line from the movie Lucky Number Slevin: "The first time someone calls you a horse you punch him on the nose, the second time someone calls you a horse you call him a jerk but the third time someone calls you a horse, well then perhaps it's time to go shopping for a saddle."

If it's the same person, or same group of people, who look for reasons to call people horses, you should probably take their comments with a grain of salt.


Even if that group is everyone?
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 04, 2012 12:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nnivolcm wrote:
TL-TwoWinsAway wrote:
Nnivolcm wrote:
I'm reminded of a line from the movie Lucky Number Slevin: "The first time someone calls you a horse you punch him on the nose, the second time someone calls you a horse you call him a jerk but the third time someone calls you a horse, well then perhaps it's time to go shopping for a saddle."

If it's the same person, or same group of people, who look for reasons to call people horses, you should probably take their comments with a grain of salt.


Even if that group is everyone?

But... it's not. I mean, that group may think they're everyone, but it's really just that group, and the affect that group has when they're constantly doing their best to take shots whenever possible.
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Well, this certainly seems like a strenuous past time. I couldn't imagine having to do something like this.
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Jrugges wrote:
TL-TwoWinsAway wrote:
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TL do you suppose just once you could keep the discussion on football and leave the bickering out of the conversation?

It's really tiring to read all of your posts pointing out how you perceive the actions of others. Your comment about Jrugges being petty is hysterical given the example you set.

Seriously? How can anyone read the last few pages and address a post like this only to me? (It just shows how the groups have grown on here... when posters are willing to ignore what's actually happening to pass blame on one person who isn't, happily, in said group.)

Jrugges has, a few times since quitting, laughed at the FFMD forum. Most recently, he refused to vote on a trade-up scenario, then laughed at the forum when we didn't make the move. I don't know

what else you'd call that, but I think my word fits. (Even if it's painfully true.)

Although the majority of voters turned that trade down, I'm the one getting blasted for not wanting to move up. I guess it's just easier that way... whatever... but it's cute that the other "no" voters have been called out.

Whatever. Our GM wanted either Martin or Konz at #23. We have Konz, and still have a 2nd. The sky isn't falling.



Lol, his point is... If I'm petty... Then what does that make you? Confused


Certain people will choose to interpret statements out of context all the time.

Or, miss the point completely.
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