2012 Free Agents

Stone85 · Joined: 30 Jun 2010 Posts: 2053 Location: Florida

Our free agents:

Name, Pos, Importance/Value Rating Out of 10
Nick Hardwick, C, 9
Vincent Jackson, WR, 9
Jared Gaither, LT, 8.5
Mike Tolbert, RB, 7.5
Jacob Hester, FB, 6.5
Antonio Garay, NT, 6
Tommie Harris, DE
Steve Gregory, SS
Scott Mrwhatever, C/G
Patrick Crayton, doesn't matter
Paul Oliver, S
Randy McMichael, TE
Na'il Diggs
Stephen Cooper, doesn't matter
Brandyn Dombro, RT
Kory Sperry, TE
Tony Moll, OT
Bob Sanders, SS
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JammerHammer21 · Joined: 27 Dec 2009 Posts: 18071 Location: Anywhere

Stone85 · Joined: 30 Jun 2010 Posts: 2053 Location: Florida

Well, he is...

I actually did mean to list him as a LT. I'll fix. I knew he would be a great sign if we brought him in but I didn't think it would be this good. Glad to see your opinion of him changed lol... Idk about "without a doubt the most important" because Hardwick can certainly be argued, and possibly even VJ too. In the end I'd take Gaither, but still debatable.

As long as our whole oline doesn't quit the team, Gaither--Dielman--Hardwick--Vasquez--McNeill should kick [inappropriate/removed].
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JammerHammer21 · Joined: 27 Dec 2009 Posts: 18071 Location: Anywhere

Neither McNeill or Gaither would be any good at RT....
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Stone85 · Joined: 30 Jun 2010 Posts: 2053 Location: Florida

JammerHammer21 · Joined: 27 Dec 2009 Posts: 18071 Location: Anywhere

AntonioGates · Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 10:12 pm Post subject:

Name, Pos, Importance/Value Rating Out of 10
Nick Hardwick, C, - 10
Vincent Jackson, WR - 9.5
Jared Gaither, LT - 10 if McNeil is done, otherwise he is gone
Mike Tolbert, RB - 8
Jacob Hester, FB - 5
Antonio Garay, NT - 7
Tommie Harris, DE - 5
Steve Gregory, SS - 3
Scott Mrwhatever, C/G - 3
Patrick Crayton - 0
Paul Oliver, S - 2
Randy McMichael, TE - 6
Na'il Diggs -0
Stephen Cooper - 1
Brandyn Dombro, RT - 1
Kory Sperry, TE - 0
Tony Moll, OT - 0
Bob Sanders, SS - 0

If McNeil is back and healthy I don't see the Chargers letting him go for Gaither.

And Clary is likely the 2012 right tackle since Norv and AJ are still around. Yay! Rolling Eyes

Stone85 · Joined: 30 Jun 2010 Posts: 2053 Location: Florida

Trade value of McNeill (LT) and Gaither? (LT)
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lakeroy · Joined: 03 Apr 2011 Posts: 332

Even if McNeill doesn't retire, I believe we can still keep Gaither. http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Charging-in-the-McNeill-deal.html
From that article, it sounds like we can cut McNeill without owing him any money, as long as it's before his physical in March- that way his release wouldn't be injury related.

If it were up to me, I'd cut McNeill as soon as possible and then negotiate a contract with Gaither. With McNeil rapidly declining and becoming injury prone, he's just no where close to being worth $10m. Gaither, on the other hand, should be one of the best tackles in the league going forward. But this is AJ Smith we are talking about here, so he'll probably let Gaither walk for nothing and act like McNeil is worth $10m.

And regardless of what happens with Gaither/McNeil, it's fairly obvious Clary will be our starting RT next season in all likelihood. AJ just has blind love for him. But I think even with Clary, we could still have a very good overall Oline if Gaither, Dielman, and Hardwick are all brought back and Greene is put at RG.

As for the thread, I would try to bring back Hardwick, Jackson, Gaither, Hester, Harris, Sperry, and maybe Garay(depending on how much he wants). I wouldn't make a contract offer to anyone else listed.

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The-Beast · Joined: 08 Feb 2006 Posts: 9002 Location: Las Vegas

Name, Pos, Importance/Value Rating Out of 10

10 - Nick Hardwick, C, Wasn't overly keen on Hardwick the past couple years, but this year he showed how much he was worth. Of all the sacks and pressures Rivers received 1 or 2 were from Hardwicks man.

7 - Vincent Jackson, WR, And the only reason he's a 7 is because of the quality FA class of WR.

10 - Jared Gaither, LT, Best LT in the league

4 - Mike Tolbert, RB, I'd rather go after someone cheaper.

Jacob Hester, FB, is the guy we overpaid for.

3 - Antonio Garay, NT, Wasn't near as dominant as last year but he's a big body.

7 - Tommie Harris, DE, Really showed he could still play in a limited roll.

0 - Steve Gregory, SS, He's already overvalued himself.

3 - Scott Mruczkowski, C/G, I think Green is now our premier backup C/G

0 - Patrick Crayton, didn't do enough given his opportunities.

3 - Paul Oliver, S, can't go into the draft with 2 safeties.

3 - Randy McMichael, TE, he's a checkdown TE with questionable hands.

0 - Na'il Diggs, if he actually was decent in pass defense I'd consider him but he was as bad as Spikes.

4 - Stephen Cooper, If he's healthy he's far better than any of the over the hill linebackers we brought in this past offseason.

6 - Brandyn Dombro, RT, Solid backups are tough to keep.

7 - Kory Sperry, TE, I think he's going to be our #2 TE next year.

0 - Tony Moll, OT

Retired - Bob Sanders, SS,
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LawnGamesChamp · Joined: 09 Apr 2011 Posts: 388 Location: Fox Cities

Hey I'm looking for an honest opinion on Mruczkowski. I think you guys are for sure going to re-sign Hardwick now that Dielman retired and let Scott walk. I thought he played well in 2009 when Nick went down, but he hasn't gotten any meaningful playtime since. Any news on him? What is your opinion of the guy? I think he could potentially be an underrated sign for a team looking for competition at C, but I haven't really followed him closely since 09.

The-Beast · Joined: 08 Feb 2006 Posts: 9002 Location: Las Vegas

2 years ago, I didn't see a difference between Hardwicks and his play.
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