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I like Curry but the other 3 or more LDE in my mind. Curry is more a 34 OLB or RDE.
Also if the wide 9 is gone we need a new LDE so in the 1st 2 rounds.
Ingram is in my next mock as well McNabbMcFadden but he is our 1st rounder, he's a legitimate top 20 prospect IMO.
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If im not mistaken Im pretty sure we have SD 5th round pick from a trade last yr. Also Comp. picks will prolly be 5th for Q,6for Akers,& 6th for Stew. Now Heres what I would do with those pick
trade asante\nate allen to det for 2nd(if those rumors are true about det's interest in asante then I think the Jedi could pull out a 2nd for those 2); trade 4,5,6 to sf for 3
1(15)-Vontaze Burfict ASU 6'3 250 Jr LB(13g 69tkl,7.5tfl,5sack,1int,3pb)
I know here come the boo's but if u think we can get him in the 2nd it's gonna happen he will go in the 1st to either nyg,bal,pit one of them will take him. It's a reach but what does this team need on D Leadership,mean,nasty,toughness,intimidation outside of leadership (& lets face it no rookie is gonna b a leader in the nfl) but Vontaze has everything else that they're missing. He is as high risk reward as any player in the draft but with how terrible the lbs we're this yr he cant hurt us any more thasn they have.His max potenial is ray lewis but at min I think you'll get a rey maulauga, & tell me who would not have killed just 2 have a Maulauga type player this past season.
2(46)-David Decastro Stanford 6'5 310 Sr RG
He is a 1st round talent & could go in the 1st but outside of the eagles when do you ever see a G on in the 1st round. No other teams value G as high as the bird so I believe he will slip to day2 & the 2nd round.But this guy reminds me of steve hutchinson & has future all-pro written all over him he mite be a pro-bowler as a rookie.
2(51)(arz)-Vinny Curry Marshall 6'4 263 Sr DE(13g 77tkl,22tfl,11sack,7ff,1pb,3blocks)
This guy just makes plays he has a real solid motor & can rush the passer. As we see with the giants you can never has too many pass rushers. This guy kinda reminds me of a Trent Cole\Jason Taylor Type. & also he Plays LDE.
2(55)(det)-Mark Barron Alabama 6'2 212 Sr S(12g 64tkl,4tfl,2int,5pb)
This guy just makes plays. he's the leader of bamas nasty D he is a very good tackler has real good ball skills & is very underated in coverage. He's not a 4.4 guy he's a 4.55-4.6 guy but he knows what he's doing. Dawk was the same way(not saying that he's dawk cause no-one can prolly ever be the type of player & leader that Dawk is & was) he plays FS pretty well & can Play SS. He will fall due to combine speed & stuff that really dosent have anything to do with playing FB.
3(77)-Matt Reynolds BYU 6'6 305 Sr OT
Andy + BYU + his bro dallas has been on the PS forever + his dad is BYU OL coach= Makes too much sense & andy will go get him. He can Play though & reminds me a lil of Todd.
3(91)(sf)-Sean Spence Miami 5'11 224 Sr WLB(11g 106tkl,14tfl,3sack,1ff,1pb)
This my favorite Player in the draft. If he was 2inches taller & 15lbs heavier he would b a top 15 pick. He has everything that you want outside of size. Great instincts\Leadership,high FB IQ,very good speed,can play pass & run.blows up screen plays better than any other player in CFB ive seen in yrs. If you could combine his IQ & total package w Vontaze into 1 player you would have Ray Lewis. Steal of the draft will be in top5 for DROY.
4(4)-T.Y Hilton Florida int. 5'10 180 Sr WR\Kr(13g 72rec 1038yds 7td;19car 124 1td,1prtd)
I hope we resign Desean & we should but we dont know whats gonna happen. This guy look alot like DJax. Even if deseans back this guy will kr\pr can run\catch would open up the field u see how D's play Djac image having 2 of him would open up run game more & whole O i see him being like what GB did with Randall Cobb this yr.
5-Ladarius Green LA-Laf 6'6 240 Sr TE(13g 51rec 606yds 8td)
Big talent still very raw. Not that great of a block or route runner has pretty good hands,good speed & great size. Looks a lil like Jimmy Graham. Has a pro-bowl ceiling if reaches it, def. worth takin a flyer on.
5(comp)-David Molk Michigan 6'2 285 Sr C
Was Big-10 o-lineman of the yr. Looks just like kelce we'll need a back-up with Jamal prolly gone & this guy can push kelce 2 be better.
6-Micanor Regis Miami 6'3 305 sr DT(11g 42tkl,6.5tfl,2sack,1ff,4pb)
Lookd pretty good when i would watch him at the U. can push the pockett a lil can play the run, he's usually around the ball & can make plays. Would be a nice add to the rotation.
6-Case Keenum Houston 6'1 210 Sr QB(25yrs old)(428\603 71cmp% 5631 48td 5int,3rush td)
Put up all of the number in that gimick O,is older at 25 he's written in at 6'2 but is closer to 6'0-6'1. They took a shot on the last Houston Qb in Kolb think they'll go from case in the 6th & see if he can earn a spot or even b on the PS.
6(comp)-DaJohn Harris USC 6'4 310 Sr DT(12g 22tkl,6tfl,1.5sack,6pb)
Ima fan of this guy he reminds me of a taller patterson he kncoks down the ball at the LOA w 6pb better than almost any DT in the NCAA. He is just a solid player dosent make the big play but is stout vs run & ccan rush the passer a lil would be a very solid add the the rotation.
6(comp)-Jerrell Harris Alabama 6'3 242 Sr LB(13g 22tkl,2.5tfl)
He looked very good in the 1st game vs LSU, he can play pass & cover a TE & his pretty good vs run. With soo much talent at bama he's been in & out of lineup & been a lil over lookd but I think he could b a very good back-up\st & mite have a chance 2 get some playing time w the birds Lb crew. P.s wouldnt b shocked if he makes a big play in the national championship game, he wear #5 look out 4 him in 2moros game.
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If Spags doesn't like the wide 9, we're going to need a new left defensive end. |
And I have no problem taking one in the 4th or 5th.
If Samuel and Jackson are gone, we have bigger needs at DT, LB, Safety, WR, and CB.
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| bkb77 wrote: | If im not mistaken Im pretty sure we have SD 5th round pick from a trade last yr. Also Comp. picks will prolly be 5th for Q,6for Akers,& 6th for Stew. Now Heres what I would do with those pick
trade asante\nate allen to det for 2nd(if those rumors are true about det's interest in asante then I think the Jedi could pull out a 2nd for those 2); trade 4,5,6 to sf for 3
1(15)-Vontaze Burfict ASU 6'3 250 Jr LB(13g 69tkl,7.5tfl,5sack,1int,3pb)
I know here come the boo's but if u think we can get him in the 2nd it's gonna happen he will got in the 1st to either nyg,bal,pit one of them will take him. It's a reach but what does this team need on D Leadership,mean,nasty,toughness,intimidation outside of leadership (& lets face it no rookie is gonna b a leader in the nfl) but Vontaze has everything else that they're missing. He is as high risk reward as any player in the draft but with how terrible the lbs we're this yr he cant hurt us any more thasn they have.His max potenial is ray lewis but at min I think you'll get a rey maulauga, & tell me who would not have killed just 2 have a Maulauga type player this past season.
Too uncontrolled, hell of a talent, no football IQ.
2(46)-David Decastro Stanford 6'5 310 Sr RG
He is a 1st round talent & could go in the 1st but outside of the eagles when do you ever see a G on in the 1st round. No other teams value G as high as the bird so I believe he will slip to day2 & the 2nd round.But this guy reminds me of steve hutchinson & has future all-pro written all over him he mite be a pro-bowler as a rookie.
Don't need a G if Mathis is re-signed, and he will be a 1st rounder. And we took a G in the 1st round who DeCastro is a better prospect than to answer your question.
2(51)(arz)-Vinny Curry Marshall 6'4 263 Sr DE(13g 77tkl,22tfl,11sack,7ff,1pb,3blocks)
This guy just makes plays he has a real solid motor & can rush the passer. As we see with the giants you can never has too many pass rushers. This guy kinda reminds me of a Trent Cole\Jason Taylor Type. & also he Plays LDE.
He plays LDE, but I don't think he will be as good as the other guys against the run, also he's a conversion guy who will go higher because he has 34 potential.
2(55)(det)-Mark Barron Alabama 6'2 212 Sr S(12g 64tkl,4tfl,2int,5pb)
This guy just makes plays. he's the leader of bamas nasty D he is a very good tackler has real good ball skills & is very underated in coverage. He's not a 4.4 guy he's a 4.55-4.6 guy but he knows what he's doing. Dawk was the same way(not saying that he's dawk cause no-one can prolly ever be the type of player & leader that Dawk is & was) he plays FS pretty well & can Play SS. He will fall due to combine speed & stuff that really dosent have anything to do with playing FB.
He's not underratted in coverage at all, he's stiff decent in zone and awful in man, he's the mold of an old school downhill SS in a 46 type scheme.
3(77)-Matt Reynolds BYU 6'6 305 Sr OT
Andy + BYU + his bro dallas has been on the PS forever + his dad is BYU OL coach= Makes too much sense & andy will go get him. He can Play though & reminds me a lil of Todd.
Don't need an OT especially if Dunlap is re-signed. Dunlap is a solid swing tackle behind Todd and JP.
3(91)(sf)-Sean Spence Miami 5'11 224 Sr WLB(11g 106tkl,14tfl,3sack,1ff,1pb)
This my favorite Player in the draft. If he was 2inches taller & 15lbs heavier he would b a top 15 pick. He has everything that you want outside of size. Great instincts\Leadership,hig FB IQ,very good speed,can play pass & run.blows up screen plays better than any other player in CFB ive seen in yrs. If you could combine his IQ & total package w Vontaze into 1 player you would have Ray Lewis. Steal of the draft will be in top5 for DROY.
We have Sean Spence type in Brian Rolle, a player who has high IQ and talent but is small. I like Rolle more than Spence too. Don't hate it but don't love it either.
4(4)-T.Y Hilton Florida int. 5'10 180 Sr WR\Kr(13g 72rec 1038yds 7td;19car 124 1td,1prtd)
I hope we resign Desean & we should but we dont know whats gonna happen. This guy look alot like DJax. Even if deseans back this guy will kr\pr can run\catch would open up the field u see how D's play Djac image having 2 of him would open up run game more & whole O i see him being like what GB did with Randall Cobb this yr.
Like this pick
5-Ladarius Green LA-Laf 6'6 240 Sr TE(13g 51rec 606yds 8td)
Big talent still very raw. Not that great of a block or route runner has pretty good hands,good speed & great size. Looks a lil like Jimmy Graham. Has a pro-boel ceiling if reaches it, def. worth takin a flyer on.
I like Green, but think he has a shot to go higher if he has the combine he is capable of.
5(comp)-David Molk Michigan 6'2 285 Sr C
Was Big-10 o-lineman of the yr. Looks just like kelce we'll need a back-up with Jamal prolly gone & this guy can push kelce 2 be better.
I like Molk
6-Micanor Regis Miami 6'3 305 sr DT(11g 42tkl,6.5tfl,2sack,1ff,4pb)
Lookd pretty good when i would watch him at the U. can push the pockett a lil can play the run, he's usually around the ball & can make plays. Would be a nice add to the rotation.
Solid pick
6-Case Keenum Houston 6'1 210 Sr QB(25yrs old)(428\603 71cmp% 5631 48td 5int,3rush td)
Put up all of the number in that gimick O,is older at 25 he's written in at 6'2 but is closer to 6'0-6'1. They took a shot on the last Houston Qb in Kolb think they'll go from case in the 6th & see if he can earn a spot or even b on the PS.
Meh pick
6(comp)-DaJohn Harris USC 6'4 310 Sr DT(12g 22tkl,6tfl,1.5sack,6pb)
Ima fan of this guy he reminds me of a taller patterson he kncoks down the ball at the LOA w 6pb better than almost any DT in the NCAA. He is just a solid player dosent make the big play but is stout vs run & ccan rush the passer a lil would be a very solid add the the rotation.
solid pick
6(comp)-Jerrell Harris Alabama 6'3 242 Sr LB(13g 22tkl,2.5tfl)
He looked very good in the 1st game vs LSU, he can play pass & cover a TE & his pretty good vs run. With soo much talent at bama he's been in & out of lineup & been a lil over lookd but I think he could b a very good back-up\st & mite have a chance 2 get some playing time w the birds Lb crew. P.s wouldnt b shocked if he makes a big play in the national championship game, he wear #5 look out 4 him in 2moros game.
solid pick
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Your late rounds were solid but your top picks were awful IMO.
Also Asante might net us a 2nd but Nate won't and he's not getting traded.
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| Jeezla wrote: | | marky_b27 wrote: |
If Spags doesn't like the wide 9, we're going to need a new left defensive end. |
And I have no problem taking one in the 4th or 5th.
If Samuel and Jackson are gone, we have bigger needs at DT, LB, Safety, WR, and CB. |
LDE would be a bigger need than CB, Nnamdi and DRC would play the outsides with Hanson who is at least solid in the slot and some young guys with upside in Marsh and Hughes.
LB is a weak class and there is no LB worth a top 20 pick IMO.
No DT is going in the top 20.
This is the worst safety class in some time.
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In my mind it's sign LaRon Landry or stick with the safeties we have. I don't see another upgrade out there.
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| EaglesFan5-36-81 wrote: | | Jeezla wrote: | | marky_b27 wrote: |
If Spags doesn't like the wide 9, we're going to need a new left defensive end. |
And I have no problem taking one in the 4th or 5th.
If Samuel and Jackson are gone, we have bigger needs at DT, LB, Safety, WR, and CB. |
LDE would be a bigger need than CB, Nnamdi and DRC would play the outsides with Hanson who is at least solid in the slot and some young guys with upside in Marsh and Hughes.
LB is a weak class and there is no LB worth a top 20 pick IMO.
No DT is going in the top 20.
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LDE is not nearly as big of a need as you make it out to be. We need a guy who is solid against the run for 2 downs before we bring in Babin on obvious passing downs. A 2 down LDE is easy to find in later rounds, plus I think Ingram is overrated as hell.
Kuechly is worth a top 20 pick unless you only scout using a stop watch.
Joselio sucks. I don't care what stats you throw at me, I think he straight up sucks. End of story. I also think DRC is overrated as a mofo. One good season and that's it.
A DT will definitely go in the top 20.
Last years safety class was worse.
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| EaglesFan5-36-81 wrote: | | bkb77 wrote: | If im not mistaken Im pretty sure we have SD 5th round pick from a trade last yr. Also Comp. picks will prolly be 5th for Q,6for Akers,& 6th for Stew. Now Heres what I would do with those pick
trade asante\nate allen to det for 2nd(if those rumors are true about det's interest in asante then I think the Jedi could pull out a 2nd for those 2); trade 4,5,6 to sf for 3
1(15)-Vontaze Burfict ASU 6'3 250 Jr LB(13g 69tkl,7.5tfl,5sack,1int,3pb)
I know here come the boo's but if u think we can get him in the 2nd it's gonna happen he will got in the 1st to either nyg,bal,pit one of them will take him. It's a reach but what does this team need on D Leadership,mean,nasty,toughness,intimidation outside of leadership (& lets face it no rookie is gonna b a leader in the nfl) but Vontaze has everything else that they're missing. He is as high risk reward as any player in the draft but with how terrible the lbs we're this yr he cant hurt us any more thasn they have.His max potenial is ray lewis but at min I think you'll get a rey maulauga, & tell me who would not have killed just 2 have a Maulauga type player this past season.
Too uncontrolled, hell of a talent, no football IQ.
2(46)-David Decastro Stanford 6'5 310 Sr RG
He is a 1st round talent & could go in the 1st but outside of the eagles when do you ever see a G on in the 1st round. No other teams value G as high as the bird so I believe he will slip to day2 & the 2nd round.But this guy reminds me of steve hutchinson & has future all-pro written all over him he mite be a pro-bowler as a rookie.
Don't need a G if Mathis is re-signed, and he will be a 1st rounder. And we took a G in the 1st round who DeCastro is a better prospect than to answer your question.
2(51)(arz)-Vinny Curry Marshall 6'4 263 Sr DE(13g 77tkl,22tfl,11sack,7ff,1pb,3blocks)
This guy just makes plays he has a real solid motor & can rush the passer. As we see with the giants you can never has too many pass rushers. This guy kinda reminds me of a Trent Cole\Jason Taylor Type. & also he Plays LDE.
He plays LDE, but I don't think he will be as good as the other guys against the run, also he's a conversion guy who will go higher because he has 34 potential.
2(55)(det)-Mark Barron Alabama 6'2 212 Sr S(12g 64tkl,4tfl,2int,5pb)
This guy just makes plays. he's the leader of bamas nasty D he is a very good tackler has real good ball skills & is very underated in coverage. He's not a 4.4 guy he's a 4.55-4.6 guy but he knows what he's doing. Dawk was the same way(not saying that he's dawk cause no-one can prolly ever be the type of player & leader that Dawk is & was) he plays FS pretty well & can Play SS. He will fall due to combine speed & stuff that really dosent have anything to do with playing FB.
He's not underratted in coverage at all, he's stiff decent in zone and awful in man, he's the mold of an old school downhill SS in a 46 type scheme.
3(77)-Matt Reynolds BYU 6'6 305 Sr OT
Andy + BYU + his bro dallas has been on the PS forever + his dad is BYU OL coach= Makes too much sense & andy will go get him. He can Play though & reminds me a lil of Todd.
Don't need an OT especially if Dunlap is re-signed. Dunlap is a solid swing tackle behind Todd and JP.
3(91)(sf)-Sean Spence Miami 5'11 224 Sr WLB(11g 106tkl,14tfl,3sack,1ff,1pb)
This my favorite Player in the draft. If he was 2inches taller & 15lbs heavier he would b a top 15 pick. He has everything that you want outside of size. Great instincts\Leadership,hig FB IQ,very good speed,can play pass & run.blows up screen plays better than any other player in CFB ive seen in yrs. If you could combine his IQ & total package w Vontaze into 1 player you would have Ray Lewis. Steal of the draft will be in top5 for DROY.
We have Sean Spence type in Brian Rolle, a player who has high IQ and talent but is small. I like Rolle more than Spence too. Don't hate it but don't love it either.
4(4)-T.Y Hilton Florida int. 5'10 180 Sr WR\Kr(13g 72rec 1038yds 7td;19car 124 1td,1prtd)
I hope we resign Desean & we should but we dont know whats gonna happen. This guy look alot like DJax. Even if deseans back this guy will kr\pr can run\catch would open up the field u see how D's play Djac image having 2 of him would open up run game more & whole O i see him being like what GB did with Randall Cobb this yr.
Like this pick
5-Ladarius Green LA-Laf 6'6 240 Sr TE(13g 51rec 606yds 8td)
Big talent still very raw. Not that great of a block or route runner has pretty good hands,good speed & great size. Looks a lil like Jimmy Graham. Has a pro-boel ceiling if reaches it, def. worth takin a flyer on.
I like Green, but think he has a shot to go higher if he has the combine he is capable of.
5(comp)-David Molk Michigan 6'2 285 Sr C
Was Big-10 o-lineman of the yr. Looks just like kelce we'll need a back-up with Jamal prolly gone & this guy can push kelce 2 be better.
I like Molk
6-Micanor Regis Miami 6'3 305 sr DT(11g 42tkl,6.5tfl,2sack,1ff,4pb)
Lookd pretty good when i would watch him at the U. can push the pockett a lil can play the run, he's usually around the ball & can make plays. Would be a nice add to the rotation.
Solid pick
6-Case Keenum Houston 6'1 210 Sr QB(25yrs old)(428\603 71cmp% 5631 48td 5int,3rush td)
Put up all of the number in that gimick O,is older at 25 he's written in at 6'2 but is closer to 6'0-6'1. They took a shot on the last Houston Qb in Kolb think they'll go from case in the 6th & see if he can earn a spot or even b on the PS.
Meh pick
6(comp)-DaJohn Harris USC 6'4 310 Sr DT(12g 22tkl,6tfl,1.5sack,6pb)
Ima fan of this guy he reminds me of a taller patterson he kncoks down the ball at the LOA w 6pb better than almost any DT in the NCAA. He is just a solid player dosent make the big play but is stout vs run & ccan rush the passer a lil would be a very solid add the the rotation.
solid pick
6(comp)-Jerrell Harris Alabama 6'3 242 Sr LB(13g 22tkl,2.5tfl)
He looked very good in the 1st game vs LSU, he can play pass & cover a TE & his pretty good vs run. With soo much talent at bama he's been in & out of lineup & been a lil over lookd but I think he could b a very good back-up\st & mite have a chance 2 get some playing time w the birds Lb crew. P.s wouldnt b shocked if he makes a big play in the national championship game, he wear #5 look out 4 him in 2moros game.
solid pick
Thats what I would do if I ran the draft. |
Your late rounds were solid but your top picks were awful IMO.
Also Asante might net us a 2nd but Nate won't and he's not getting traded. |
I here what your saying but this is part me & part what I think andy will do so reynolds is an andy pick. & as far as Spence vs Rolle the difference is Spence can Play 50snaps a game at Will & rolle is a 20snap a game player & spence might be the best leader in the draft this yr. Him with vontaze i think could really help Vontaze mature. & Decastro\mathis thing mathis will prolly only get 1-2yrs & i believe andy & mudd will see decastro & saw that he fell(if he falls & jump all over him; so thats a part andy pick. with Barron i respect your opinion on him but I really think he could develope into a FS but he is better suited at SS as you said but i see a worst case Kerry Rhodes & best darren woodson (& i know both of them are\should\where SS but they played FS aswell. |
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| Jeezla wrote: | | EaglesFan5-36-81 wrote: | | Jeezla wrote: | | marky_b27 wrote: |
If Spags doesn't like the wide 9, we're going to need a new left defensive end. |
And I have no problem taking one in the 4th or 5th.
If Samuel and Jackson are gone, we have bigger needs at DT, LB, Safety, WR, and CB. |
LDE would be a bigger need than CB, Nnamdi and DRC would play the outsides with Hanson who is at least solid in the slot and some young guys with upside in Marsh and Hughes.
LB is a weak class and there is no LB worth a top 20 pick IMO.
No DT is going in the top 20.
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LDE is not nearly as big of a need as you make it out to be. We need a guy who is solid against the run for 2 downs before we bring in Babin on obvious passing downs. A 2 down LDE is easy to find in later rounds, plus I think Ingram is overrated as hell.
Kuechly is worth a top 20 pick unless you only scout using a stop watch.
Joselio sucks. I don't care what stats you throw at me, I think he straight up sucks. End of story. I also think DRC is overrated as a mofo. One good season and that's it.
A DT will definitely go in the top 20.
Last years safety class was worse. |
Teams also pass on 1st down, meaning a guy that could do both is kinda paramount. Also Babin has done didly squat outside the wide-9 and likely wouldn't be back. And I disagree with you about Ingram, 6-2 with long arms, big frame with good athletic ability, versatility, strong in the running game, good pass rushing ability with a solid repoitoire, can kick inside to DT or even stand up and play a joker role, kid is talented as hell.
Kuelchy is a 1st-2nd round type guy, the only type guys you see go top 15 are guys who are athletic guys and have a high football IQ. Kuelchy is smaller and likely thinner than all the guys selected in that range. Is he a tackling machine with a high IQ yes he is, but he's not a top 20 guy.
Joselio has played well this season and last in the slot, does he suck when put on the outside absolutley, but do you take a nickel CB when you have a decent one over a starting RDE, absolutley not.
Brandon Thompson may go top 20 but he's limited as a pass rusher. Devon Still is the only guy you can argue but he's not really a wow guy. He's just a solid player that in any other class would be a late 1.
Last years safety class was just as bad. Both classes are absolutley abysmal.
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lol
Were not getting any comp picks.
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Jroc04
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And wouldn't Graham be this LE all you guys are asking for if Wash leaves?
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| Jroc04 wrote: | | And wouldn't Graham be this LE all you guys are asking for if Wash leaves? |
I'm not sold on Graham, he looks a lot more to me like a RDE than a LDE just because he seems more like an explosive RDE pass rusher.
Also were not getting any comp picks at all. Maybe for Akers but thats about it. We signed Page so IIRC that cancels the loss of Q from a comp pick standpoint, and Stew was poop in the desert.
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| EaglesFan5-36-81 wrote: |
Teams also pass on 1st down, meaning a guy that could do both is kinda paramount. Also Babin has done didly squat outside the wide-9 and likely wouldn't be back. And I disagree with you about Ingram, 6-2 with long arms, big frame with good athletic ability, versatility, strong in the running game, good pass rushing ability with a solid repoitoire, can kick inside to DT or even stand up and play a joker role, kid is talented as hell.
Kuelchy is a 1st-2nd round type guy, the only type guys you see go top 15 are guys who are athletic guys and have a high football IQ. Kuelchy is smaller and likely thinner than all the guys selected in that range. Is he a tackling machine with a high IQ yes he is, but he's not a top 20 guy.
Joselio has played well this season and last in the slot, does he suck when put on the outside absolutley, but do you take a nickel CB when you have a decent one over a starting RDE, absolutley not.
Brandon Thompson may go top 20 but he's limited as a pass rusher. Devon Still is the only guy you can argue but he's not really a wow guy. He's just a solid player that in any other class would be a late 1.
Last years safety class was just as bad. Both classes are absolutley abysmal. |
Coulda swore your description of Ingram was a scouting report for a shorter Robert Ayers.
Kuechly weighs 237. If he weighed 5 more pounds, everyone would say he was perfect and just needed to be faster. A top 20 guy to me, is a guy who will contribute right away and make your team instantly better. I think Kuechly does that. I don't think a top 20 pick has to be an amazing athlete if his intangibles are off the charts.
The first DT drafted will be Fletcher Cox, because he's going to run a 4.7 at 295ish pounds.
Markell Martin is better than any safety on our roster.
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| EaglesFan5-36-81 wrote: | | Jroc04 wrote: | | And wouldn't Graham be this LE all you guys are asking for if Wash leaves? |
I'm not sold on Graham, he looks a lot more to me like a RDE than a LDE just because he seems more like an explosive RDE pass rusher.
Also were not getting any comp picks at all. Maybe for Akers but thats about it. We signed Page so IIRC that cancels the loss of Q from a comp pick standpoint, and Stew was poop in the desert. |
I agree, I think Graham is a better fit at the RDE
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| Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2012 6:02 pm Post subject: |
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| EaglesFan5-36-81 wrote: | | Jroc04 wrote: | | And wouldn't Graham be this LE all you guys are asking for if Wash leaves? |
I'm not sold on Graham, he looks a lot more to me like a RDE than a LDE just because he seems more like an explosive RDE pass rusher.
Also were not getting any comp picks at all. Maybe for Akers but thats about it. We signed Page so IIRC that cancels the loss of Q from a comp pick standpoint, and Stew was poop in the desert. |
Comp goes by $ signed for that Y babin who was a pro-bowler last yr only netted a 7th round comp. So Q got paid 4 like 4yr 26m that=a 5th,stew got 3m=6th,akers got 2m+all-pro season=6th |
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