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keeno


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 05, 2015 1:04 pm    Post subject: Dwayne Bowe Reply with quote

........ expected to be cut if the Chiefs can't work out a trade.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...ey-cant-trade/

Looks like some will get their wish -- a group that might even include Dwayne Bowe himself.

Good luck, fella.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 05, 2015 1:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not sure what team out there would give us anything for him, but I'd be ecstatic if we were able to get something for him. Some team out there has a 2017 7th rounder for us hahah
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 05, 2015 2:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Trade him for Wilhoite Twisted Evil
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 05, 2015 3:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Niners don't have the money to take on his salary, but I'd be down. Bowe is a good blocking WR who would be nice to have in their offense where their QB is a better runner than passer.

Truthfully, anything we could get for Bowe would be a perk. If he's not willing to reduce his salary. It makes you wonder if they've at least had discussions with other teams about trading for him however, considering everyone knows he's going to be cut...but yet he's still on the team.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 05, 2015 3:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Correct, Bowe either takes pay cut or is cut. All other options are NOT going to happen.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 05, 2015 3:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

valkrei wrote:
Correct, Bowe either takes pay cut or is cut. All other options are NOT going to happen.


Agreed. I wish he'd take the pay cut. I doubt he gets paid big bucks in FA.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 05, 2015 5:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can we get some clarity on his contract obligations?

My understanding is that his remaining prorated balance of signing bonus is $9M. That will go against the cap this year or else next year if cut after a certain day. Guarantee's are irrelevant. Is this correct? Some of these articles make it sound like there's no dead money if he's cut. Why do they mention guarantees? My understanding is that his base for this year was never guaranteed anyway, even before he was suspended, because he has already been passed his original guaranteed amount to this point. Why do I keep seeing people use the word 'guaranteed'?
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 05, 2015 5:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Deep WR class in the draft. Cobb, Williams and Johnson on the market with the Bears also said to be shopping Marshall.

Highly doubt they'll find a trade for him, although his attitude and work ethic should garner some interest.

Either way, hate to see him go but it's a numbers game at this point.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 05, 2015 6:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

so long Joe Mays as well
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 05, 2015 6:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

UPlay2Win wrote:
Can we get some clarity on his contract obligations?

My understanding is that his remaining prorated balance of signing bonus is $9M. That will go against the cap this year or else next year if cut after a certain day. Guarantee's are irrelevant. Is this correct? Some of these articles make it sound like there's no dead money if he's cut. Why do they mention guarantees? My understanding is that his base for this year was never guaranteed anyway, even before he was suspended, because he has already been passed his original guaranteed amount to this point. Why do I keep seeing people use the word 'guaranteed'?


As I understand it, He does have 3 prorated years left at 3 mil each (9 mil total) that would count against the KC cap.

With that in mind, his cap hit this season would have been 14 mil.. so to cut him free would save KC five million against this year's cap.

Now, they could also opt to cut him as a "post June 1" cut... which then saves them 11 million in cap room, but causes them to "pay out" dead money for another year.

Whatever guaranteed money that got cancelled out due to his infraction had to do with guaranteed base salaries. Had the base salaries still been guaranteed, then obviously it makes it all the more painful to cut loose of him.. but that part of the deal was voided when he got busted.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 05, 2015 6:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

oldman9er wrote:
UPlay2Win wrote:
Can we get some clarity on his contract obligations?

My understanding is that his remaining prorated balance of signing bonus is $9M. That will go against the cap this year or else next year if cut after a certain day. Guarantee's are irrelevant. Is this correct? Some of these articles make it sound like there's no dead money if he's cut. Why do they mention guarantees? My understanding is that his base for this year was never guaranteed anyway, even before he was suspended, because he has already been passed his original guaranteed amount to this point. Why do I keep seeing people use the word 'guaranteed'?


As I understand it, He does have 3 prorated years left at 3 mil each (9 mil total) that would count against the KC cap.

With that in mind, his cap hit this season would have been 14 mil.. so to cut him free would save KC five million against this year's cap.

Now, they could also opt to cut him as a "post June 1" cut... which then saves them 11 million in cap room, but causes them to "pay out" dead money for another year.

Whatever guaranteed money that got cancelled out due to his infraction had to do with guaranteed base salaries. Had the base salaries still been guaranteed, then obviously it makes it all the more painful to cut loose of him.. but that part of the deal was voided when he got busted.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 05, 2015 9:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I found this

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Well lets look at the positive side. Our receiving corps wasn't great and hasn't been great in awhile.
Perhaps this is the offseason it gets rebuilt and starts our offense back on a much better track
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 06, 2015 1:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

He was a great Chief and one of my favorite players as far as personality and fan appreciation.

But this was a long time coming, he never lived up to the hype or the money.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 06, 2015 1:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

valkrei wrote:
Correct, Bowe either takes pay cut or is cut. All other options are NOT going to happen.


I definitely don't take the pay cut if I'm Bowe and his agent. I'd force the Chiefs to cut me, and then look for a modest 1 or 2 year deal with a team/QB that will utilize me and help build my market back to where it was -- then try free agency again in a year or 2.

Considering the QBs that Bowe has played with (Huard, Croyle, Gray, Thigpen, Orton, Cassel, Palko, and now Smith), I'd say he's had a solid career to this point. He's done well enough where a team might think enough of him to come calling the Chiefs and offer a worthwhile trade just to avoid the bidding contest on the open market.
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