| View previous topic :: View next topic |
| Author |
Message |
ukdolfan
Joined: 06 Jan 2008
Posts: 8848
|
 Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2012 4:43 pm Post subject: Dave Wannestedt promoted to DC |
 |
|
|
Couldn't see a thread on it.
The Bills have let George Edwards go and promoted Dave Wannestedt to defensive coordinator.
https://twitter.com/ChrisBrownBills
Found this interesting as it was two former Dolphin's coaches. I'm guessing this means a more permanent move back to the 43. The stache should do a good job if all the players come back healthy.
_________________
^ Jamison on the sig. |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
Trentwannabe
Joined: 28 Dec 2007
Posts: 2458
Location: Mount Forest, Canada
|
| Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2012 4:49 pm Post subject: |
|
|
|
Just saw this on the nfl network. Love this move!
DE: Draft pick,Moats
DT: Williams, Carrington
DT: Dareus, Edwards
DE: Kelsey (where he fits best) Batten
OLB: Morrison
MLB: Barnett
OLB: Sheppard (where he fits well IMO)
_________________
100th Grey Cup Game: Toronto Argonauts 35 Calgary Stampeders 22. Go ARGOS Go! |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
marshawn lynch
Joined: 03 Mar 2008
Posts: 16104
Location: Syracuse NY
|
| Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2012 5:08 pm Post subject: |
|
|
|
Best news in awhile. Looks like we are moving to the 4-3. I love this move.
Quinton Coples here we come.
_________________
Jamison on sig |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Buffalo_Kid
Joined: 04 May 2008
Posts: 4591
|
| Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2012 6:56 pm Post subject: |
|
|
|
| Trentwannabe wrote: | Just saw this on the nfl network. Love this move!
DE: Draft pick,Moats
DT: Williams, Carrington
DT: Dareus, Edwards
DE: Kelsey (where he fits best) Batten
OLB: Morrison
MLB: Barnett
OLB: Sheppard (where he fits well IMO) |
i think Carrington could be a good LDE in the league we were playing him at OLB when he was 300 LB so i think he could do really well at that position.
_________________
thanks for the sig NS922!
Listen! I am standing at the door, knocking;
if you hear my voice and open the door,
I will come in to you and eat with you,
and you with me.
Revelation 3:20 |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
jb_gobills
Joined: 25 Jan 2007
Posts: 13760
Location: Rochester, NY
|
| Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2012 7:53 pm Post subject: |
|
|
|
I like it, good move.
_________________
^Jamison.
Where else would you rather be than right here, right now?
When it's too tough for them, it's just right for us
Proud to be a Bills fan |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
leeevans83d
Joined: 03 Mar 2009
Posts: 1739
Location: Maryland
|
| Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2012 8:03 pm Post subject: |
|
|
|
Good deal
_________________
Go Bills! |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Tk3
Joined: 15 Feb 2007
Posts: 1604
|
| Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2012 9:51 pm Post subject: |
|
|
|
Mixed opinions..
1. I GENERALLY prefer the 3-4 to the 4-3.. It has a MUCH higher ceiling for QB pressure and overall mayhem..
2. In EITHER scheme we need CB help badly.. Changing from one to the other wont fix this..
3. As much as we needed pass rushing linebackers in the 3-4, we have the exact same need for pass rushing ends in the 4-3.. Same need, different name..
4. At current the 4-3 seems like the closer route to success..
5. The though of Dareus and Williams both playing DT for us makes me smile.. Better than playing one of them out of position..
Overall, I can't complain with this decision.. Unfortunately we were probably 1 win too many to land Coples.. Coples or Kirkpatrick will be ideal but likely off the board for us..
_________________
 |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Yibbyl
Joined: 21 Apr 2011
Posts: 2123
Location: Redding, CA
|
| Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 1:50 am Post subject: |
|
|
|
| Tk3 wrote: | Mixed opinions..
1. I GENERALLY prefer the 3-4 to the 4-3.. It has a MUCH higher ceiling for QB pressure and overall mayhem..
2. In EITHER scheme we need CB help badly.. Changing from one to the other wont fix this..
3. As much as we needed pass rushing linebackers in the 3-4, we have the exact same need for pass rushing ends in the 4-3.. Same need, different name..
4. At current the 4-3 seems like the closer route to success..
5. The though of Dareus and Williams both playing DT for us makes me smile.. Better than playing one of them out of position..
Overall, I can't complain with this decision.. Unfortunately we were probably 1 win too many to land Coples.. Coples or Kirkpatrick will be ideal but likely off the board for us.. |
My thought too, but I'm hopeful someone will throw a wrench into the early draft and really shake things up.
_________________
 |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
TommyC376
Joined: 08 Feb 2008
Posts: 8552
Location: Capital Wasteland
|
| Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 9:14 am Post subject: |
|
|
|
With this move - to the 4-3, We dont need a Rush LB, so in the 1st round I would love to get the top WR left on the board either Floyd or Jeffery, I perfer Floyd. We can go DE in the 2nd possibly Vinny Curry or Frank Alexander, heck Brandon Jenkins could fall to us as well.
_________________
Go Bills!
| ServantofYHWH wrote: | | I <3 you TommyC376. I'll be nominating you for Mr. fanTASTic. |
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Tk3
Joined: 15 Feb 2007
Posts: 1604
|
| Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 9:42 pm Post subject: |
|
|
|
| Yibbyl wrote: | | Tk3 wrote: | Mixed opinions..
1. I GENERALLY prefer the 3-4 to the 4-3.. It has a MUCH higher ceiling for QB pressure and overall mayhem..
2. In EITHER scheme we need CB help badly.. Changing from one to the other wont fix this..
3. As much as we needed pass rushing linebackers in the 3-4, we have the exact same need for pass rushing ends in the 4-3.. Same need, different name..
4. At current the 4-3 seems like the closer route to success..
5. The though of Dareus and Williams both playing DT for us makes me smile.. Better than playing one of them out of position..
Overall, I can't complain with this decision.. Unfortunately we were probably 1 win too many to land Coples.. Coples or Kirkpatrick will be ideal but likely off the board for us.. |
My thought too, but I'm hopeful someone will throw a wrench into the early draft and really shake things up. |
Unfortunately WE are often that team..
Hello Richardson!
_________________
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
BigBillsFan13
Joined: 31 Dec 2008
Posts: 11255
Location: So Cal
|
| Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 10:29 pm Post subject: |
|
|
|
| Tk3 wrote: | | Yibbyl wrote: | | Tk3 wrote: | Mixed opinions..
1. I GENERALLY prefer the 3-4 to the 4-3.. It has a MUCH higher ceiling for QB pressure and overall mayhem..
2. In EITHER scheme we need CB help badly.. Changing from one to the other wont fix this..
3. As much as we needed pass rushing linebackers in the 3-4, we have the exact same need for pass rushing ends in the 4-3.. Same need, different name..
4. At current the 4-3 seems like the closer route to success..
5. The though of Dareus and Williams both playing DT for us makes me smile.. Better than playing one of them out of position..
Overall, I can't complain with this decision.. Unfortunately we were probably 1 win too many to land Coples.. Coples or Kirkpatrick will be ideal but likely off the board for us.. |
My thought too, but I'm hopeful someone will throw a wrench into the early draft and really shake things up. |
Unfortunately WE are often that team..
Hello Richardson! |
Lol, been saying it for a while now.
I just pray he's gone by our pick so there's no chance.
_________________
| husker_vikes3 wrote: | | BBF is the bestest |
| bucsfan333 wrote: | | <3 me some BBF !! It's like you get me. |
| bucsfan333 wrote: | | BBF, as usual, is doing it right. |
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
OffseasonChamps
Joined: 28 Jul 2011
Posts: 191
|
| Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 11:14 am Post subject: |
|
|
|
If we're going to a 4-3 I think we still need 2 starting OLBs and reserves. We'll also need a starting RDE and reserves. We have a ton of players capable of playing ILB in either scheme. But ends & OLBs need to be added because I don't see many on this roster.
I wonder if Moats has the ability to play RDE or SLB in a 4-3. He seems to be a player who gets pressure despite all the reasons why he shouldn't be able to get the job done. Anybody have thoughts on Moats in transition, where he might end up and if he'll be effective? |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Trentwannabe
Joined: 28 Dec 2007
Posts: 2458
Location: Mount Forest, Canada
|
| Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 1:29 pm Post subject: |
|
|
|
| OffseasonChamps wrote: | If we're going to a 4-3 I think we still need 2 starting OLBs and reserves. We'll also need a starting RDE and reserves. We have a ton of players capable of playing ILB in either scheme. But ends & OLBs need to be added because I don't see many on this roster.
I wonder if Moats has the ability to play RDE or SLB in a 4-3. He seems to be a player who gets pressure despite all the reasons why he shouldn't be able to get the job done. Anybody have thoughts on Moats in transition, where he might end up and if he'll be effective? |
Personally I think Moats will be a DE for us and a damn good one at that. He played DE in college albeit at James Maddison. But he finished his career with 209 tackles and 29 sacks.
http://www.bigcatcountry.com/2010/3/24/1388718/2010-scouting-report-presented-by
_________________
100th Grey Cup Game: Toronto Argonauts 35 Calgary Stampeders 22. Go ARGOS Go! |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
TommyC376
Joined: 08 Feb 2008
Posts: 8552
Location: Capital Wasteland
|
| Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 5:40 pm Post subject: |
|
|
|
| Trentwannabe wrote: | | OffseasonChamps wrote: | If we're going to a 4-3 I think we still need 2 starting OLBs and reserves. We'll also need a starting RDE and reserves. We have a ton of players capable of playing ILB in either scheme. But ends & OLBs need to be added because I don't see many on this roster.
I wonder if Moats has the ability to play RDE or SLB in a 4-3. He seems to be a player who gets pressure despite all the reasons why he shouldn't be able to get the job done. Anybody have thoughts on Moats in transition, where he might end up and if he'll be effective? |
Personally I think Moats will be a DE for us and a damn good one at that. He played DE in college albeit at James Maddison. But he finished his career with 209 tackles and 29 sacks.
http://www.bigcatcountry.com/2010/3/24/1388718/2010-scouting-report-presented-by |
Moats played DE in the 4-3 schemes that we ran this year. He is a high motor DE, I would assume he gets the move to DE in the 4-3.
As for linebackers ... Kirk Morrison - Kelvin Sheppard - Chris White can all play the OLB role.
_________________
Go Bills!
| ServantofYHWH wrote: | | I <3 you TommyC376. I'll be nominating you for Mr. fanTASTic. |
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
OffseasonChamps
Joined: 28 Jul 2011
Posts: 191
|
| Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 6:25 pm Post subject: |
|
|
|
| TommyC376 wrote: | | Trentwannabe wrote: | | OffseasonChamps wrote: | If we're going to a 4-3 I think we still need 2 starting OLBs and reserves. We'll also need a starting RDE and reserves. We have a ton of players capable of playing ILB in either scheme. But ends & OLBs need to be added because I don't see many on this roster.
I wonder if Moats has the ability to play RDE or SLB in a 4-3. He seems to be a player who gets pressure despite all the reasons why he shouldn't be able to get the job done. Anybody have thoughts on Moats in transition, where he might end up and if he'll be effective? |
Personally I think Moats will be a DE for us and a damn good one at that. He played DE in college albeit at James Maddison. But he finished his career with 209 tackles and 29 sacks.
http://www.bigcatcountry.com/2010/3/24/1388718/2010-scouting-report-presented-by |
Moats played DE in the 4-3 schemes that we ran this year. He is a high motor DE, I would assume he gets the move to DE in the 4-3.
As for linebackers ... Kirk Morrison - Kelvin Sheppard - Chris White can all play the OLB role. |
What makes you say those three guys can play OLB?
From what I saw this season I have absolutely no confidence those three can cover, rush the passer or shed blockers to disrupt the run as an OLBs in any scheme.
I'm thankful Morrison was only signed to a one year deal. He made a lot of tackles early in his career but they were 5-8 yds down the field and he was never a playmaker. Ever. Which might be why he sat at home until we gave him a call during the preseason, nobody wanted him. Sheppard and White are pretty much the same guy and that guy doesn't have the sideline to sideline ability to play outside.
I don't think the OLBs we need are on the team. For a franchise that doesn't make headlines in the offseason, staying the course with a 3-4 may have been a shorter route to improvement. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
|
FAQ
Register
Profile
Log in to check your private messages
Log in
