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adesilva
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| Sanu decided hes entering the draft |
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dhunt2402
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| Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 1:55 pm Post subject: |
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| adesilva wrote: | | Sanu decided hes entering the draft |
That's excellent news, I'd love if we gave him a look at the end of the first.
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goldfishwars
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| Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 2:26 pm Post subject: |
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| dhunt2402 wrote: | | adesilva wrote: | | Sanu decided hes entering the draft |
That's excellent news, I'd love if we gave him a look at the end of the first. |
Absolutely - we should look closely at this kid.
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Richter
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| Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 10:10 pm Post subject: |
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| adesilva wrote: | | Sanu decided hes entering the draft |
So did Donte Paige-Moss, though it's hard to figure why... |
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mcmurtry86
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| Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 10:14 pm Post subject: |
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| Richter wrote: | | adesilva wrote: | | Sanu decided hes entering the draft |
So did Donte Paige-Moss, though it's hard to figure why... |
Based on his now-infamous Tweet, he hates his coaches, he hates his school and he hates the team's fans.
Who knows where he'll go, I could see some team being dumb enough to take him in round 4 or I could see him go undrafted. |
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Richter
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| Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 11:55 pm Post subject: |
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| mcmurtry86 wrote: | | Richter wrote: | | adesilva wrote: | | Sanu decided hes entering the draft |
So did Donte Paige-Moss, though it's hard to figure why... |
Based on his now-infamous Tweet, he hates his coaches, he hates his school and he hates the team's fans.
Who knows where he'll go, I could see some team being dumb enough to take him in round 4 or I could see him go undrafted. |
It's more the torn ACL that makes it a head-scratcher. I know he basically burned every bridge he had, but it makes more sense to me to transfer to some D2 school and get healthy, dominate for a year against a lower level of competition and come out for the 2013 draft after rehabilitating his image. |
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Method B
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| Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 5:09 am Post subject: Re: The Goldfishwars Patriots Draft Guide |
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| Michael Brockers (LSU) is entering the draft as a redshirted sophomore. He seems to be an ideal fit to play RDE in the Pats' 34 scheme. |
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goldfishwars
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| Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 10:00 am Post subject: Re: The Goldfishwars Patriots Draft Guide |
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| Method B wrote: | | Michael Brockers (LSU) is entering the draft as a redshirted sophomore. He seems to be an ideal fit to play RDE in the Pats' 34 scheme. |
He could play 4-3 DT too, although I'm thinking he's a top 15 talent and could be off the board by the time we pick. Still it means one of the better DT prospects (Worthy, Cox) will likely fall our way.
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Method B
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| Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 11:06 am Post subject: Re: The Goldfishwars Patriots Draft Guide |
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| goldfishwars wrote: | | Method B wrote: | | Michael Brockers (LSU) is entering the draft as a redshirted sophomore. He seems to be an ideal fit to play RDE in the Pats' 34 scheme. |
He could play 4-3 DT too, although I'm thinking he's a top 15 talent and could be off the board by the time we pick. Still it means one of the better DT prospects (Worthy, Cox) will likely fall our way. |
I'd like to have someone on the 3-4 line who is a complete package. Stout against the run and provide a consistent push. I know there is rarely the new Richard Seymour in this class or in any class but he is the closest resemblance I can think of right now. |
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goldfishwars
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| Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 3:34 pm Post subject: Re: The Goldfishwars Patriots Draft Guide |
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| Method B wrote: | | goldfishwars wrote: | | Method B wrote: | | Michael Brockers (LSU) is entering the draft as a redshirted sophomore. He seems to be an ideal fit to play RDE in the Pats' 34 scheme. |
He could play 4-3 DT too, although I'm thinking he's a top 15 talent and could be off the board by the time we pick. Still it means one of the better DT prospects (Worthy, Cox) will likely fall our way. |
I'd like to have someone on the 3-4 line who is a complete package. Stout against the run and provide a consistent push. I know there is rarely the new Richard Seymour in this class or in any class but he is the closest resemblance I can think of right now. |
I really agree, man - no-one thought he would declare early. He could change the draft strategy of a lot of teams. Panthers might have a close look in the top 10, then you got the Seahawks, Eagles - all might be looking at interior D line guys.
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dliverey
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This is what I would like the draft to look like. Addressing the Defense and WR core. I Do not think that Branch will be back. I also do not feel that Center is as big a need as others, so I did not address it
1a. Hightower-I think he will be a 3-4 SOLB or 3-4 SILB. If Spikes gets healthy then Hightower will OLB.
1b. Cox-Can play 4-3 DT or 3-4 DE (5 tech). He is not as stout against the run as I would like, but he has a huge amount of potential.
2a. Minnifield- I am not as down on the CB's as others are, but I am down on the Safety's. By drafting Minnifield it will allow one of the current CB's to play FS. I think we will see alot of McCourty at FS against Denver tomorrow.
2b. Dwight Jones- Big target at WR. I think that the pats need at least one big WR. He has inconsistent hands, but runs good routes and can stretch the field.
3. McClellin- Very explosive off the ball and uses his hands very well. Has played DE, OLB and ILB for Boise St. I think he would be a dynamic OLB for us. My #1 BINKY or man crush
4. Jarius Wright- very fast and shifty. Will eventually play in the slot.
Please give feedback and opinions as to where you think this mock could be improved. |
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Richter
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| Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 11:26 pm Post subject: |
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| dliverey wrote: | This is what I would like the draft to look like. Addressing the Defense and WR core. I Do not think that Branch will be back. I also do not feel that Center is as big a need as others, so I did not address it
1a. Hightower-I think he will be a 3-4 SOLB or 3-4 SILB. If Spikes gets healthy then Hightower will OLB.
1b. Cox-Can play 4-3 DT or 3-4 DE (5 tech). He is not as stout against the run as I would like, but he has a huge amount of potential.
2a. Minnifield- I am not as down on the CB's as others are, but I am down on the Safety's. By drafting Minnifield it will allow one of the current CB's to play FS. I think we will see alot of McCourty at FS against Denver tomorrow.
2b. Dwight Jones- Big target at WR. I think that the pats need at least one big WR. He has inconsistent hands, but runs good routes and can stretch the field.
3. McClellin- Very explosive off the ball and uses his hands very well. Has played DE, OLB and ILB for Boise St. I think he would be a dynamic OLB for us. My #1 BINKY or man crush
4. Jarius Wright- very fast and shifty. Will eventually play in the slot.
Please give feedback and opinions as to where you think this mock could be improved. |
Feel like you read my mind on those first three picks. When I was doing some work for the upcoming draft last night, those are the three guys I settled on at their respective positions. I re-watched both LSU games Alabama played and Hightower was just an animal in both. He needs to play as the Jack linebacker for the Pats, where he'd be able to rush up the field more often and make use of his crazy athleticism, while still offering versatility all over the field. Fletcher has the most upside of the 5-technique guys I've watched, and I've warmed up to him lately, and Minnifield looks like a guy that could play some safety in addition to being a pretty good corner, plus he has solid bloodlines for the NFL. I don't like Dwight Jones, because I'm a little gun-shy after watching Greg Little this year, but I haven't seen much of him. I would be extremely happy with this draft right now, though. Only thing that would be better is if Burfict fell and the Pats could somehow snag him in the second. |
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Sciz
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| Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2012 12:09 am Post subject: |
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| Richter wrote: | | Feel like you read my mind on those first three picks. When I was doing some work for the upcoming draft last night, those are the three guys I settled on at their respective positions. I re-watched both LSU games Alabama played and Hightower was just an animal in both. He needs to play as the Jack linebacker for the Pats, where he'd be able to rush up the field more often and make use of his crazy athleticism, while still offering versatility all over the field. Fletcher has the most upside of the 5-technique guys I've watched, and I've warmed up to him lately, and Minnifield looks like a guy that could play some safety in addition to being a pretty good corner, plus he has solid bloodlines for the NFL. I don't like Dwight Jones, because I'm a little gun-shy after watching Greg Little this year, but I haven't seen much of him. I would be extremely happy with this draft right now, though. Only thing that would be better is if Burfict fell and the Pats could somehow snag him in the second. |
A first 3 picks of Hightower, Fletcher, and Burfict would add a ton of talent to the front 7, and especially if Belichick is serious enough about a more aggressive man-coverage defense that he's willing to try again this offseason after failing last offseason. Grabbing both Hightower and Burfict would probably mean no McClellin though 
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Richter
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| Sciz wrote: | | Richter wrote: | | Feel like you read my mind on those first three picks. When I was doing some work for the upcoming draft last night, those are the three guys I settled on at their respective positions. I re-watched both LSU games Alabama played and Hightower was just an animal in both. He needs to play as the Jack linebacker for the Pats, where he'd be able to rush up the field more often and make use of his crazy athleticism, while still offering versatility all over the field. Fletcher has the most upside of the 5-technique guys I've watched, and I've warmed up to him lately, and Minnifield looks like a guy that could play some safety in addition to being a pretty good corner, plus he has solid bloodlines for the NFL. I don't like Dwight Jones, because I'm a little gun-shy after watching Greg Little this year, but I haven't seen much of him. I would be extremely happy with this draft right now, though. Only thing that would be better is if Burfict fell and the Pats could somehow snag him in the second. |
A first 3 picks of Hightower, Fletcher, and Burfict would add a ton of talent to the front 7, and especially if Belichick is serious enough about a more aggressive man-coverage defense that he's willing to try again this offseason after failing last offseason. Grabbing both Hightower and Burfict would probably mean no McClellin though :( |
Don't really have an opinion on McClellin, because I've watched very little college football outside of the SEC or the top teams in the Pac-12 and Big Ten. I really wouldn't care if the Patriots used their first three picks on those players. Normally in a draft as weak as this, I'd be looking at trading picks ahead, but honestly, I really like this linebacker class at the top. Hightower, Burfict, Ingram and Upshaw are all very appealing prospects to me, and there are a whole bunch of decent consolation prizes after them. I think the quickest way to fix the defense is to pursue front seven talent, especially talent that is versatile enough to offer pass rush and coverage ability from various positions on the field. The league is moving away from heavier, slower linebackers on the edges. Getting a couple elite athletes that can line up inside and out and move around the field is the way to go in the future, if you want to be able to match up against the top passing teams without sacrificing your ability to defend the rush. |
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dliverey
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I am not a fan of Burfict, I love the intensity but he does not control it. He has alot of personal fouls because he does not control his emotions. He does not wrap up very well rather he goes for the knock out shot and he leads with the crown of the helmet. I don't know if he is disciplined enough to stick with a gap assignment. When I have watched him he seems to freelamce alot. If we played a more aggressive defense I would be all in.
If you draft Burfict instead of Minnifield I don't think you can get as good of a DB in the 4th, so for me the choice was Minnifield and McClellin vs Burfict and Jammel Fleming. |
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