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PostPosted: Fri Dec 02, 2011 12:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Good write-up on Newton.

Heres something I'll add. He is a much better quarterback when he throws to good receivers. Obvious statement is obvious, but its really more than what you'd think. He throws the ball better, is more accurate, and overall just looks better when he's throwing to Smith, Olsen, and Stewart (out of the backfield), compared to throwing to guys like Naanee. It's not really anything on the receiver's side (though Naanee makes his fair share of bad plays), but it seems like Cam's confidence in receivers is really easy to see.


That is an interesting note, and one I could definitely agree with. I think a big part of that is, as you said, confidence in his receiver. But a bigger factor, I'd have to say, is Steve Smith and Greg Olsen are veteran route runners, while Naanee has always struggled to run crisp routes - and it's always easier to hit a target out of the backfield, than a poor route runner up field.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 02, 2011 12:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I demand you review Curtis Painter good sir!


LOL - y ou know, it crossed my mind to do so. But why waste my time - we all know what their depth chart will read next season:

1. Peyton Manning
2. Andrew Luck
3. Curtis Painter
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 02, 2011 12:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dallas94Ware wrote:
james.mcmurry13 wrote:
Good write-up on Newton.

Heres something I'll add. He is a much better quarterback when he throws to good receivers. Obvious statement is obvious, but its really more than what you'd think. He throws the ball better, is more accurate, and overall just looks better when he's throwing to Smith, Olsen, and Stewart (out of the backfield), compared to throwing to guys like Naanee. It's not really anything on the receiver's side (though Naanee makes his fair share of bad plays), but it seems like Cam's confidence in receivers is really easy to see.


That is an interesting note, and one I could definitely agree with. I think a big part of that is, as you said, confidence in his receiver. But a bigger factor, I'd have to say, is Steve Smith and Greg Olsen are veteran route runners, while Naanee has always struggled to run crisp routes - and it's always easier to hit a target out of the backfield, than a poor route runner up field.


I'm really interested in seeing how this goes with LaFell starting this week. LaFell has looked pretty well, Cam seems to click with him (the few plays he's actually in the game), so if he falls into the Smith/Olsen/Stewart category, then I'll chalk it up to Naanee just being bad.
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I was surprised I didn't see Bradford getting trashed in this thread. Seems like it's "trending" right now.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 02, 2011 12:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I was surprised I didn't see Bradford getting trashed in this thread. Seems like it's "trending" right now.


bradford's body of work is too inconsistent and this season was too injury ravaged for me to really work off of him and his work this season.

Freeman, Bradford, Flacco and Ryan, I will get to sometime soon.
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Dallas94Ware wrote:
jrry32 wrote:
I was surprised I didn't see Bradford getting trashed in this thread. Seems like it's "trending" right now.


bradford's body of work is too inconsistent and this season was too injury ravaged for me to really work off of him and his work this season.

Freeman, Bradford, Flacco and Ryan, I will get to sometime soon.


That's probably the most fair way to do it. I'd probably wait until next year when he's healthy and hopefully has some improved WR talent to evaluate. He's just been way too up and down this year(mostly down).
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Really interested in your thoughts on Flacco.

The guy isn't an elite QB obviously, but I think he takes too much [inappropriate/removed] on here.

Not to mention his OC is absolutely terrible.
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Really interested in your thoughts on Flacco.

The guy isn't an elite QB obviously, but I think he takes too much - on here.

Not to mention his OC is absolutely terrible.


I remember his evaluation of Flacco way back in his rookie year. It was spot on - which normally would be great, but is no longer useful since Flacco draws his strengths and weaknesses out of a hat every year Laughing
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 02, 2011 1:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Think you could do some research on Rivers and why he's playing so badly this year?
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Very good work as usual.

While I agree that this season Sanchez is the worst fade thrower I've seen, he was actually quite good at it with Braylon Edwards. That's the area that the Jets currently miss the most from last season.

I wonder how different the season would be with Braylon back instead of Plax.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 02, 2011 2:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Really good write-up on Dalton. Hopefully an offseason working out with AJ Green and watching film will get Dalton to hold the ball a bit longer to make more down the field passes.

The guy also has ice water in his veins...
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I agree with some of the stuff you said about Ponder, but the part about no moxy is inaccurate. He has plenty of moxy, he just has something about him. And its very impressive for such a young QB. He doesnt lack confidence either, C.Woodson picked him off twice in the first game and Ponder kept slinging it. And threw a lazer to Michael Jenkins for a TD against non other than Woodson. But i do agree with everything else you stated. Good work
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"Sanchez, despite all the criticism he gets (likely from playing in NY), is playing well."

Here's where you lost me.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 02, 2011 7:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What a great writeup.

I agree with all you have written about Tebow, and why it will be so hard for us to build a team around him is obvious, when you see the pros and cons listed like this.
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