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Ryan Tannehill
Chase Minnifeild
Lamichael James
Kawann Short
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For reference (don't page me bruh)
Post Week 11 Draft Order
| Code: | Team Record Win % Opp Rec SoS
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1) IND 0-10 .000 84-76 .5250
2) CAR 2-8 .200 81-79 .5063
3t) STL 2-8 .200 92-68 .5750
4t) MIN 2-8 .200 92-68 .5750
5) WAS 3-7 .300 74-86 .4625
6) JAC 3-7 .300 76-84 .4750
7) ARI 3-7 .300 77-83 .4813
8) MIA 3-7 .300 83-77 .5188
9) PHI 4-6 .400 81-79 .5063
10) CLE 4-6 .400 82-78 .5125
11) KC 4-6 .400 83-77 .5188
12) SEA 4-6 .400 84-76 .5250
13t) SD 4-6 .400 86-74 .5375
14t) TB 4-6 .400 86-74 .5375
15) TEN 5-5 .500 73-87 .4563
16) NYJ 5-5 .500 78-82 .4875
17) BUF 5-5 .500 79-81 .4938
18) DEN 5-5 .500 85-75 .5313
19t) DAL 6-4 .600 75-85 .4688
20t) ATL 6-4 .600 75-85 .4688 [Traded to Cleveland]
21) CIN 6-4 .600 79-81 .4938
22) NYG 6-4 .600 81-79 .5063
23) OAK 6-4 .600 83-77 .5188 [Traded to Cincinnati]
24) HOU 7-3 .700 68-92 .4250
25) NE 7-3 .700 71-89 .4438
26) NO 7-3 .700 73-87 .4563 [Traded to New England]
27) BAL 7-3 .700 76-84 .4750
28) PIT 7-3 .700 78-82 .4875
29) CHI 7-3 .700 84-76 .5250
30) DET 7-3 .700 91-69 .5688
31) SF 9-1 .900 72-88 .4500
32) GB 10-0 1.000 78-82 .4875 |
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Better Mock
1. Ryan Tannehill
2. Andre Branch
3. Bruce Irvin
4. Trumaine Johnson
5. Tank Carder
6. James Wilson, Guard
7. Terrance Ganaway, FB Baylor
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Here is my thoughts on how the draft will pan out. Not necessarily my ideal draft, but how I see it playing out. I used the updated draft order, except when it came to the playoff teams. Those were my own predictions.
Round 1
1. Indianapolis- Andrew Luck, QB, Stanford
2. Carolina- Justin Blackmon, WR, Oklahoma State
3. St. Louis- Alshon Jeffrey, WR, South Carolina
4. Minnesota- Matt Khalil, OT, USC
5. Washington- Matt Barkley, QB, USC
6. Jacksonville- Quinton Coples, DE, North Carolina
7. Arizona- Jonathan Martin, OT, Stanford
8. Miami- Landry Jones, QB, Oklahoma
9. Philadelphia- Vontaze Burfict, LB, Arizona State
10. Cleveland- Manti T'eo, LB, Notre Dame
11. Kansas City- Riley Reiff, OT, Iowa
12. Seattle- Ryan Tannenhill, QB, Texas A&M
13. Tampa Bay- Morris Claiborne, CB, LSU
14. San Diego- Courtney Upshaw, OLB, Alabama
15. Tennessee- Luke Kuechly, LB, Boston College
16. New York Jets- Nick Perry, OLB, USC
17. Buffalo- Brandon Jenkins, OLB, Florida State
18. Denver- Dre Kirkpatrick, CB, Alabama
19. Dallas- Whitney Mercilus, OLB, Illinois
20. Houston- Mark Barron, SS, Alabama
21. Chicago- Michael Floyd, WR, Notre Dame
22. New York Giants- Donta Hightower, LB, Alabama
23. Cincinnati- Trent Richardson, RB, Alabama
24. Cleveland (Via Atlanta)- Vinny Curry, DE, Marshall
25. Baltimore- Peter Konz, C, Wisconsin
26. San Francisco- Casey Hayward, CB, Vanderbilt
27. Cincinnati (Via Oakland)- Janoris Jenkins, CB, North Alabama
28. New England (Via New Orleans)- Jerel Worthy, DT, Michigan State
29. Pittsburgh- Brandon Thompson, NT, Clemson
30. Detroit- Zach Brown, LB, North Carolina
31. New England- Robert Lester, FS, Alabama
32. Green Bay- Jared Crick, DE, Nebraska
Round 2
33. Indianapolis- David DeCastro, OG, Stanford
34. Carolina- Chase Minnifield, CB, Virginia
35. St. Louis- Lamar Miller, RB, Miami
36. Minnesota- Mohamed Sanu, WR, Rutgers
37. Washington- Audie Cole, ILB, N.C. State
38. Jacksonville- Jeff Fuller, WR, Texas A&M
39. Philadelphia (Via Arizona)- Kelechi Osemele, OG/OT, Iowa State
40. Miami- Nate Potter, OT/OG, Boise State
41. Philadelphia- Alameda Ta'amu, DT, Washington
42. Cleveland- Alfonso Dennard, CB, Nebraska
43. Kansas City- T.J. McDonald, FS, USC
44. Seattle- Andre Branch, DE, Clemson
45. San Diego- Cordy Glenn, OG, Georgia
46. Tampa Bay- Travis Lewis, LB, Oklahoma
47. Tennessee- Ryan Broyes, WR, Oklahoma
48. New York Jets- Tramain Thomas, FS, Arkansas
49. Buffalo- Marvin McNutt, WR, Iowa
50. Denver- Levy Adcock, OT, Oklahoma State
51. Dallas- Kheeston Randall, DE, Texas
52. Houston- Bruce Irvin, OLB, West Virginia
53. Chicago- Nigel Bradham, LB, Florida State
54. New York Giants- Ricky Wagner, OT, Wisconsin
55. Cincinnati- Kenny Tate, SS, Maryland
56. Atlanta- Michael Egnew, TE, Missouri
57. Baltimore- Jermarcus "Yoshi" Hardrick, OT, Nebraska
58. San Francisco- Mike Brewster, C, Ohio State
59. New England (Via Oakland)- Melvin Ingram, DE, South Carolina
60. New Orleans- Devon Still, DT, Penn State
61. Pittsburgh- Mike Adams, OT, Ohio State
62. Detroit- Andrew Datko, OT, Florida State
63. New England- Dwight Jones, WR, North Carolina
64. Green Bay- Kevin Zeitler, OG, Wisconsin
Round 3
65. Indianapolis- Cliff Harris, CB, Oregon
66. Chicago (Via Carolina)- Ben Jones, C/OG, Georgia
67. St. Louis- Leonard Johnson, CB, Iowa State
68. Minnesota- David Vlachos, C/OG, Alabama
69. Washington- Billy Winn, DE, Boise State
70. Jacksonville- Donnie Fletcher, CB, Boston College
71. Arizona- Jonathan Massaquoi, OLB, Troy State
72. Miami- Markelle Martin, FS, Oklahoma State
73. Philadelphia- Devin Taylor, DE, South Carolina
74. Cleveland- Kendall Wright, WR, Baylor
75. Kansas City- Emmanuel Acho, ILB, Texas
76. Seattle- Trumaine Johnson, CB, Montana
77. Tampa Bay- Eddie Whitley, FS, Virginia Tech
78. San Diego- Coby Fleener, TE, Stanford
79. Tennessee- Kendall Reyes, DT, UConn
80. New York Jets- Jarius Wright, WR/KR, Arkansas
81. Buffalo- Sean Spence, ILB, Miami
82. Denver- Chris Polk, RB, Washington
83. Dallas- Ray Ray Armstrong, SS, Miami
84. Houston- Marcus Fortson, DE, Miami
85. Chicago- Brandon Boykin, CB, Georgia
86. New York Giants- Tashaun Gipson, CB, Wyoming
87. Cincinnati- Ryan Miller, OG, Colorado
88. Atlanta- Matt Reynolds, OT, BYU
89. Baltimore- Korey Williams, ILB, Southern Mississippi
90. San Francisco- Josh Chapman, NT, Alabama
91. Oakland- Forfeit
92. New Orleans- A.J. Jenkins, WR, Illinois
93. Pittsburgh- Coryell Judie, CB, Texas A&M
94. Detroit- Phillip Blake, OG/C, Baylor
95. New England- Miles Burris, LB, San Diego State
96. Green Bay- Sammy Brown, OLB, Houston
Round 4
97. Indianapolis- T.Y. Hilton, WR, Fla. International
98. Carolina- Donte Paige-Moss, DE, North Carolina
99. St. Louis- Jaye Howard, DT, Florida
100. Minnesota- George Iloka, FS, Boise State
101. Washington- Juron Criner, WR, Arizona
102. Jacksonville- Mike Ryan, OT, UConn
103. Arizona- Trent Robinson, FS, Michigan State
104. Miami- Chase Thomas, OLB, Stanford
105. Philadelphia- Robert Massie, OT, Mississippi
106. Cleveland- Aaron Henry, FS, Wisconsin
107. Kansas City- Logan Harrell, DE, Fresno State
108. Seattle- Kawann Short, DT, Purdue
109. San Diego- B.J. Cunningham, WR, Michigan State
110. Philadelphia (Via Tampa Bay)- Patrick Edwards, WR, Houston
111. Tennessee- David Molk, C/OG, Michigan
112. New York Jets- Renard Williams, NT, Eastern Washington
113. Buffalo- Kirk Cousins, QB, Michigan State
114. Denver- Brandon Weeden, QB, Oklahoma State
115. Dallas- DeQuan Menzie, CB, Alabama
116. Houston- Ladarius Green, TE, Louisiana-LaFayette
117. Chicago- Cam Johnson, DE, Virginia
118. New York Giants- Doug Martin, RB, Boise State
119. Cincinnati- Lavonte David, LB, Nebraska
120. Cleveland (Via Atlanta)- Matt McCants, OT, Alabama-Birmingham
121. Buffalo (Via Baltimore)- Lucas Nix, OG/OT, Pittsburgh
122. San Francisco- Jordan White, WR, Western Michigan
123. Washington (Via Oakland)- Amini Silatolu, OG, Midwestern State
124. New Orleans- Antonio Allen, SS, South Carolina
125. Pittsburgh- Kevious Watkins, OG, South Carolina
126. Detroit- James Michael Johnson, LB, Nevada
127. New England- Garth Gerhart, C/OG, Arizona State
128. Green Bay- Nick Foles, QB, Arizona
Round 5
129. Indianapolis- Tahir Whitehead, LB, Temple
130. Carolina- Brandon Mosely, OT, Auburn
131. Denver (Via St. Louis)- Frank Alexander, DE, Oklahoma
132. Minnesota- Keenan Robinson, LB, Texas
133. Washington- Tydreke Powell, NT, North Carolina
134. Jacksonville- Vince Browne, DE, Northwestern
135. Arizona- Senio Kelemente, OG, Washington
136. Miami- LaVon Brazill, WR, Ohio University
137. Philadelphia- Tank Carder, LB, TCU
138. Cleveland- Kellen Moore, QB, Boise State
139. Kansas City- Ryan Lindley, QB, San Diego State
140. Seattle- Cyrus Gray, RB, Texas A&M
141. Tampa Bay- Daniel Herron, RB, OSU
142. San Diego- Markus Zusevics, OT, Iowa
143. Tennessee- Chaz Powell, CB, Penn State
144. New York Jets- Jerry Franklin, ILB, Arkansas
145. Buffalo- Terrence Frederick, CB, Texas A&M
146. Denver- DeAngelo Tyson, DT, Georgia
147. Dallas- Julian Miller, OLB, West Virginia
148. Houston- Derrick Moye, WR, Penn State
149. Chicago- Tysyn Hartman, FS, Kansas State
150. New York Giants- Orson Charles, TE, Georgia
151. Cincinnati- Devier Posey, WR, OSU
152. Atlanta- Derek Wolfe, DT, U.C.
153. Baltimore- Shea McClellin, OLB, Boise State
154. San Francisco- Cordarro Law, OLB, Southern Mississippi
155. Oakland- Asa Jackson, CB, Cal Poly
156. New Orleans- Jeff Oglesby, OT, Wisconsin
157. Pittsburgh- Vick Ballard, RB, Mississippi State
158. Detroit- Keith Tandy, CB, West Virginia
159. Cincinnati (Via New England)- Janzen Jackson, FS, McNeese State
160. Green Bay- Nick Toon, WR, Wisconsin
Round 6
161. Indianapolis- Rishard Matthews, WR, Nevada
162. Carolina- Shaun Prater, CB, Iowa
163. St. Louis- Josh Kaddu, LB, Oregon
164. Arizona (Via Washington Via Minnesota)- Jamel Fleming, CB, Oklahoma
165. New Orleans (Via Washington)- Danny Trevathan, LB, Kentucky
166. New York Jets (Via Jacksonville)- James Brown, OT/OG, Troy State
167. Arizona- Chris Gallippo, ILB, USC
168. New Orleans (Via Miami)- Trevin Wade, CB, Arizona
169. Philadelphia- Kyle Efaw, TE, Boise State
170. Cleveland- Isaiah Pead, RB, U.C.
171. Kansas City- Quinton Saulsberry, OG/C, Mississippi State
172. Seattle- Chandler Harnish, QB, Northern Illinois
173. San Diego- Tony Dye, SS, UCLA
174. Tampa Bay- T-Bob Hebert, OG, LSU
175. Tennessee- Duke Ihenacho, SS, San Jose State
176. New York Jets- Tim Fugger, OLB, Vanderbilt
177. Buffalo- Landon Walker, OT/OG, Clemson
178. Philadelphia (Via Denver)- Moe Petrus, C/OG, UConn
179. Dallas- Seth Oxner, C/OG, Arkansas
180. Houston- Jerrell Young, FS, South Florida
181. Chicago- Tom Compton, OT, South Dakota
182. New York Giants- Derek Dennis, OG, Temple
183. Cincinnati- DaJohn Harris, DT, USC
184. Atlanta- Omar Bolden, CB, Arizona State
185. Baltimore- Coty Sensabaugh, CB, Clemson
186. San Francisco- Austin Davis, QB, Southern Mississippi
187. Oakland- Rishaw Johnson, OG, California (Pa.)
188. New Orleans- Brian Quick, WR, Appalachian State
189. Pittsburgh- Mike Daniels, DE, Iowa
190. Detroit- Forfeit
191. Philadelphia (Via New England)- Aaron Corp, QB, Richmond
192. Green Bay- Brandon Taylor, SS, LSU
Round 7
193. Indianapolis- Trevor Guyton, DE, California
194. Carolina- James Brooks, OG, Virginia Tech
195. St. Louis- Adrian Hamilton, DE, Prairie View
196. Minnesota- J.R. Sweezy, DT, N.C. State
197. Washington- Tavon Wilson, FS/CB, Illinois
198. Jacksonville- Darius Reynolds, WR, Iowa State
199. Arizona- Dominique Davis, QB, ECU
200. Miami- David Paulson, TE, Oregon
201. Minnesota (Via New England Via Philadelphia)- Jamie Blatnick, DE, Oklahoma State
202. Minnesota (Via Cleveland)- Ryan Steed, CB, Furman
203. Kansas City- T.J. Graham, WR/KR, North Carolina State
204. Detroit (Via Seattle)- Scott Solomon, DE, Rice
205. Tampa Bay- Zebrie Sanders, OT, Florida State
206. San Diego- Carmen Messina, ILB, New Mexico
207. Tennessee- Greg Childs, WR, Arkansas
208. New York Jets- Terrance Ganaway, RB, Baylor
209. Buffalo- Jerome Long, DE, San Diego State
210. Cleveland (Via Denver)- Tyrone Crawford, DE, Boise State
211. Dallas- B.J. Coleman, QB, Tennessee Chatanooga
212. New York Jets (Via Houston)- Desmond Marrow, CB, Toledo
213. Chicago- Kyle Wilber, LB, Wake Forest
214. New York Giants- Marvin Jones, WR, California
215. Cincinnati- Royce Hill, CB, North Texas
216. Atlanta- Bobby Rainey, RB, Western Kentucky
217. Baltimore- Guy Winston, SS, Kentucky
218. San Francisco- Mitchell Schwartz, OT, California
219. Buffalo (Via Seattle Via Oakland)- Harrison Smith, FS, Notre Dame
220. New Orleans- Grant Garner, C/OG, Oklahoma State
221. Pittsburgh- Jacquies Smith, OLB, Missouri
222. Detroit- Marquis Maze, KR/WR, Alabama
223. Kansas City (Via New England)- Mike Martin, NT, Michigan
224. Green Bay- Tauren Poole, RB, Tennessee |
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you left out robert griffin osprey
i think you should go with oline there over cyrus gray as well, just IMO
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| imani wrote: | you left out robert griffin osprey
i think you should go with oline there over cyrus gray as well, just IMO |
Very possible he has him coming back. Although, his stock isn't going to get much higher, IMO.
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| imani wrote: | you left out robert griffin osprey
i think you should go with oline there over cyrus gray as well, just IMO |
I did that intentionally, because I think he stays in school. If he comes out this year, he'll be the 4th or 5th QB off the board. If he stays, he could be the #1 pick in 2013.
As for O-Line, I see Gray as a possibly elite RB prospect at the time I have us picking him. I don't see an O-Linemen at that point who I believe would be a sure-fire starter for us. I went with the best available player. Besides, I believe Jean-Pierre could possibly take over the LG position from Gallery, next year. If we pick up a compensatory pick or two, I could see us adding depth on the O-Line though.
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| TheOsprey wrote: | | imani wrote: | you left out robert griffin osprey
i think you should go with oline there over cyrus gray as well, just IMO |
I did that intentionally, because I think he stays in school. If he comes out this year, he'll be the 4th or 5th QB off the board. If he stays, he could be the #1 pick in 2013. |
over aaron murray? tyler bray? i seriously doubt it
If he stays another year, he'll suffer the same fate as jake locker IMO
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| imani wrote: | | TheOsprey wrote: | | imani wrote: | you left out robert griffin osprey
i think you should go with oline there over cyrus gray as well, just IMO |
I did that intentionally, because I think he stays in school. If he comes out this year, he'll be the 4th or 5th QB off the board. If he stays, he could be the #1 pick in 2013. |
over aaron murray? tyler bray? i seriously doubt it
If he stays another year, he'll suffer the same fate as jake locker IMO |
I have a gut feeling, Tyler Bray won't enter the draft next year. Murray probably will and as much as I love him as a prospect, he is a small guy at barely 6'1" and he lacks the athleticism of Griffin. Some teams would prefer a more athletic QB and if he puts up the numbers in 2012 that he has this year, I could easily see Griffin going #1, even though, I myself believe Murray is a much better pro prospect. |
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If we can't get or trade for Luck, Barkley or RG3 witching 1-15 I don't want one there. Just don't want to see us reach for someone because it's a need , no matter how bad.
As of now I'm more convinced of those 3 giving us the best chance for success than the others.
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| WhODaT888 wrote: | If we can't get or trade for Luck, Barkley or RG3 witching 1-15 I don't want one there. Just don't want to see us reach for someone because it's a need , no matter how bad.
As of now I'm more convinced of those 3 giving us the best chance for success than the others. |
I and many others on this board, disagree. We would be perfectly satisfied with Tannenhill, we don't see him as a reach at all. I believe he has the potential to be an elite QB in the NFL. I've seen him in 5 games this season. He's athletic, has a good arm, he's accurate and he makes quick decisions and has a quick, smooth release. |
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Yea, Tannehill is a great prospect. Won't mind at all if we land him. I'd actually prefer it.
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| SaveourSonics wrote: | | Yea, Tannehill is a great prospect. Won't mind at all if we land him. I'd actually prefer it. |
I wouldnt mind it either. I think we would sit him for a year and let him learn the playbook then the teams is his.
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| klyon7634 wrote: | | SaveourSonics wrote: | | Yea, Tannehill is a great prospect. Won't mind at all if we land him. I'd actually prefer it. |
I wouldnt mind it either. I think we would sit him for a year and let him learn the playbook then the teams is his. |
Nothing wrong with that. We still have Tarvaris under the books for another year and Josh Portis should know the offense by then to be able to come in and play if Tarvaris is hurt.
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| SaveourSonics wrote: | | klyon7634 wrote: | | SaveourSonics wrote: | | Yea, Tannehill is a great prospect. Won't mind at all if we land him. I'd actually prefer it. |
I wouldnt mind it either. I think we would sit him for a year and let him learn the playbook then the teams is his. |
Nothing wrong with that. We still have Tarvaris under the books for another year and Josh Portis should know the offense by then to be able to come in and play if Tarvaris is hurt. |
There is definatly nothing wrong with that. I would rather him sit and learn for a year then get rushed in to the starting spot and never get it going.
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