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PostPosted: Tue Mar 17, 2015 7:44 pm    Post subject: Charles Clay signs Reply with quote

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The #Bills' offer to Clay is for 5 yrs and $38 million. More than $20 million guaranteed.


https://twitter.com/viccarucci/status/577973626198183937

God damn that's a lot...

Bye Dareus. Crying or Very sad
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 17, 2015 8:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

For that price..... Take him with the cap space guys Very Happy
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 17, 2015 8:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's actually less than reports indicated. Reports were 8+ million.

Julius Thomas got 8 and I think Clay is better than him.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 17, 2015 9:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

For more reference. Dolphins are paying 7.5 for Cameron, we are paying 7.6 for Clay.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 17, 2015 9:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's a lot more than I expected and am comfortable with but like marshawn said, he's better than Julius Thomas imo and he got more.

Hopefully we find a way to make room for Dareus.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 17, 2015 9:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

5 years 38 mil? Man that's a lot of money ... Hope he can produce.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 17, 2015 9:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NickChowaniec wrote:
That's a lot more than I expected and am comfortable with but like marshawn said, he's better than Julius Thomas imo and he got more.

Hopefully we find a way to make room for Dareus.


We front loaded Clays contract. He will get 25 million first two years. So if we sign Marcel with a deal for little in 2016 and backend his contract we still have a good shot.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 17, 2015 10:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not counting for Clay cap hit but in 2016 we will have $40m in cap space. I think restructuring Mario pretty much can be equivalent to Clays cap hit so they cancel out. And then we need to resign Dareus, Glenn, Gilmore and Bradham. AndiI think $40m is enough to retain all 4 of them.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 17, 2015 10:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How is that more than what anyone thought? His tender was already $7.5 for the Dolphins wasn't it? I think that possibly down the road this number will be considered quite cheap. Look at all of these FA deals this season, they were all gigantic.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 17, 2015 11:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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NFL Media columnist Michael Silver reports that the Dolphins' last offer for Clay was four years for $27 million, including less than $14 million guaranteed. That offer came after Cameron signed.
That averages out to $6.75 million a season. So we really didn't pay that much more than Dolphins would have.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 18, 2015 12:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is basically a 2 year 24 million deal. That's a lot of coin. Roman got his guy. Now he better use him correctly or this will end up being a terrible deal. We are going to have to backload Dareus' contract similar to Suh's in order to have a shot at re-signing him.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 18, 2015 1:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Billsfaninptown wrote:
This is basically a 2 year 24 million deal. That's a lot of coin. Roman got his guy. Now he better use him correctly or this will end up being a terrible deal. We are going to have to backload Dareus' contract similar to Suh's in order to have a shot at re-signing him.


Not really. It's a 5 years deal that pays 24 million in the first 2 years. Just because it's front loaded doesn't mean it's "basically" a 2 year deal. I think it can help us. Because now when our guys need to be resigned, the contract isn't back loaded when those guys need new deals.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 18, 2015 8:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I doubt Miami matches that. While it averages out to less than a million dollars a year more than Miami offered, it's highly unlikely that he plays out the full 5 years. As mentioned above, it's really a 2 year deal at 12+ million per. Way to high for Clay. He is an above average pass catcher but he is a below average blocker who has had knee and hamstring problems the past two years.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 18, 2015 10:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

They front loaded the contract so the dolphins cant match. Keep in mind that Suh's cap hit next year is 28.5 million. Tannehill will either get his 100+ million multi year deal or they will put the 5th year option on him which is a 14.6 million hit on top of Mike Pouncey and Oliver Vernon becoming free agents so the bills play was to force their hand not for this year but for 2016 cap hit which was smart. It makes Miami make the decision now rather then a year from now. Not an ideal contract but we need him and hopefully it works out.

With Dareus we can always franchise him either 110% of what we paid him this year which will be about 9 million or the average of the top 5 4-3 DT which I am unsure but dont see it being much more then 9 and they then can sign him in 2017 offseason to an extension if they cant find along term answer now. Marios contract is big until 2017 offseason, as is clays. Both drop and hughes contract gets a bit bigger but the cap space they have will be big. With Hughes and Shady signing along with this contract of clays i think the bills are in the realm of 25 million in cap space which they can give a contract to dareus with a cheap base salary to keep it low in 2016 and in 2017 it could be a bigger price tag like the dolphins did with Suh.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 18, 2015 11:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You guys seriously need to relax about Dareus.

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Howard WGR ‏@hsimon62 14h14 hours ago
as per http://overthecap.com , #Bills top 51 contracts in 2016 take up $109 million in space. some are projecting 2016 cap to be around 160m


Re-signning him will be a priority and I guarantee it's down by July.
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