Quinton Coples

[barnaby8787]

All right, so not sure where everyone else stands on this, but would anybody else be extremely annoyed if we took Coples at 16? My feeling is that Coples is a true 4-3 DE and don't see where he fits into our scheme. Now I understand that he's a great pass rusher and has great potential, I get that, but again I just don't see him fitting our scheme. The guy is 6'6, 280+ pounds and not a run stopper to play the DE spot for us and too big to play linebacker for us in my opinion. As far as I'm concerned, the only pass rusher I would take at 16 is Ingram. I would take others such as a Nick Perry, but not at the 16th pick. Oh and there are reports that Ingram is falling out of the top 10, so let's hope we can snag him instead. Thoughts?

[JetFanSince85]

Couples, Pouha, Wilkerson.

Next year, Couples, Ellis, Wilkerson.

Thats a ton beef in the front 3.

Couples is a top 6 talent according to Mayock. To get that type of player at that point in the draft is a steal.

[Jets913]

rex could turn him into a demarcus ware/mario williams type player, which would be incredible and get this defense back to being elite. the only negative about him is he may bust, which would hurt A LOT. all in all i wouldn't mind the risk though
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[sharpy]

I don't see Qinton Coples goig above 16 so I think thats a possibility. I would still keep an eye on Melvin Ingram if he's still around at 12. I think he's worth the risk to trade up for! IMO

[RDawg10]

[Jetsfandan423]

I've heard that Rex worked him out at OLB when he met with him. So maybe if they took Coples they could play him at both DE and OLB in our scheme? You know Rex loves versatility. I wouldn't be mad at the pick, but I wouldn't love it either. Just not a huge fan of Coples.
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[rickyt31]

I wouldn't to happy if we picked him over a really good prospect. More than likely Rex will start him at OLB on 1st & 2nd downs , then move him to DE on 3rd down. But I just have a bad feeling, some people assume that he will be the next Mario Williams because of the size and athleticism. But if his motor is bad, then he bust in a scheme like ours. TE's will blow past him, Quick RB's will eat him up in the open field, and he will give up when double teamed. It really depends on how much effort he puts out there on the field.
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[sharpy]

I think RDAWG hit it on the nose. It seems that the jets simply pick the best player on the board regardless of their position. I personally don't like that approach. I don't think theres a player on RDAWGS list I would be dissappointed in but at the same time I think we have to address our O-Line. Am I wrong? Or do you think this can be done later in the draft?

[New York Green]

Coples does not impress me in the slightest.

The only positive with him would be his added versatility but again, I don't understand why people are impressed with his skill?.
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[Rockice_8]

I think I could live with him at #16. #1 on my board is Ingram and after him I'm not in love with anyone else. I really hope he drops to us.

Coples wouldn't be the best fit but I think Rex could put him in the best situation to succeed. We do alot of Bear and hybrid 3-4 packages so I think we could make it work with Coples. The guy can get to the QB so why not take him. He's probably better then Perry, Jones, and Upshaw at doing that.

No he isn't going to be a cover OLB in the slightest but outside of Upshaw, McClellin and Ingram what other OLB prospects fit that mold. I see alot of people wanting Mercilus or Perry or Jones and none of them are going to be anything else but rush backers.

Rex loves his OLB's to stop the run and be big. If he thinks Coples can do it and Ingram, Floyd, and Barron are all gone Coples would shock me in the least. Unless Rex doesn't think he can stand up. If he can shed 10lbs he just might fit the Rex mold.
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[JetFanSince85]

[sharpy]

Very good points "Since 85". I will have to ponder over your post for a while.ha!ha! If the O line is so easily fixable though. Why were we so dismall last year. It seemed like we couldn't open a hole if our life depended on it. Shonn seemed to be running into someones back all year. Maybe it was him or Scotty? I don't know. I'm just getting para-noid I guess.

[jetskid007]

It really depends.


As a 5-tech or 4-3 end, I think he can be elite if he's motivated. People assume he's not a good run defender, but I think that's an incorrect assumption. He's actually has terrific upside in his run defense and loves contact.

I think if your drafting him as a DE/LB it may be a mistake. I'm a big believer in the vertical, broad, shuttle, and 3-cone drills when evaluating players and for the linebacker position his numbers were underwhelming. However if you compare him to 3-4 DE / UT, those numbers are elite. At 6'5 3/4, he has some space to fill himself out (was 285 at combine, probably could grow to 290-300), and has been most effective as an UT on tape.

If he reached his potential I feel like he could be a Richard Seymour/Justin Smith type player in our defense. Coples is an unbelievable talent that can make plays in the backfield as a 5-tech, and could remain on the field in pass rushing downs as a DE or DT. Book-ending him with Wilkerson would be lethal on offensive lines, and the linebackers would likely have a field day (especially Maybin).




Now, if you tell me the Jets plan on drafting Coples to play DE/LB in this defense, I would be shocked and upset. Coples simply doesn't have the speed/lateral movement to be a DE/LB in this defense, period. People want to say "well Mario Williams did it", but Super Mario is literally a freak of nature. At 6'7, 295 Williams was able to record a 40.5 inch vertical (9 inches better then Coples), 10'00" broad jump (11 inches better), a 4.37 shuttle (+0.41), and a 7.21 3-cone (+0.36). He did all of this at 295... he's since lost up to 15 pounds. Coples and Williams are two entirely different players, so I need to stop hearing the comparisons. If Coples is asked to play DE/LB, he's a likely bust. If he's asked to play 5-tech DE, he's more likely to succeed.
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[xenajets]

Iv thought about worst case scenarios for the draft like Ingram,Floyd,Barron and Richardson will all go before us etc so if this did happen id like him at 16 if we couldnt trade back. Id be upset if we picked him over Floyd or Richardson if he fell. If Ingram is there though i think Rex gets his man no matter what.
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[Rich51]