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packfan4
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| PacAttack04 wrote: | What do you guys think of Brandon Taylor as a potential option for our defense? Former CB which Thompson may like, part of a great defense, though wasn't the close to being one of the best players on it. But played in a tough conference, veteran defender, can play in coverage.
Heres what jsonline had to say about him.
http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packers/draftcaps26-vn4vq7d-148982145.html
| Quote: | | Three-year starter. "Just remember this," one scout said. "He wears that No. 18 at LSU. Very special number. That's the war daddy number. Heart of a warrior. Incredibly smart. He plays aggressive and a little out of control at times, like Ryan Clark in Pittsburgh." Before last season, Tigers coach Les Miles asked Taylor to switch from No. 15 to No. 18, the jersey number worn with distinction by late LSU S Sean Taylor. Finished with 160 tackles (11½ for loss), four picks and 15 PBUs. "Tough kid," another scout said. "Probably be a starter. Runs pretty good. Would like to see him tackle better." Out of Franklinton, La. |
Seems like he could be a decent prospect this year. |
Love him, might have to move up in the 3rd to get him though, could even sneak into the 2nd Round.
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incognito_man
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| Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 1:52 pm Post subject: |
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| how would people feel about having Nick Perry play as a DE in our hybrid system if he GAINED weight? |
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Sandybaby716
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| Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 1:58 pm Post subject: |
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Regarding Taylor, if we want him it will probably be with our second rounder. That's about where his draft stock is at the moment, and he may not even make it there.
Regarding Perry, I'm not so sure we run a hybrid. There was a speculative piece about how we may switch to one, but there has been no word of such a change coming from the coaches or front office. Perry could possibly be a player as a nickel rusher with his hand in the dirt regardless, but I feel like that would be an awfully niche position to take with a first rounder.
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incognito_man
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| Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 2:00 pm Post subject: |
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| Sandybaby716 wrote: | Regarding Taylor, if we want him it will probably be with our second rounder. That's about where his draft stock is at the moment, and he may not even make it there.
Regarding Perry, I'm not so sure we run a hybrid. There was a speculative piece about how we may switch to one, but there has been no word of such a change coming from the coaches or front office. Perry could possibly be a player as a nickel rusher with his hand in the dirt regardless, but I feel like that would be an awfully niche position to take with a first rounder. |
maybe hybrid was the wrong term. But he'd certainly have a spot on the nickle defense I'd think (which we run a TON) and wouldn't be a niche position IMO. |
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tttmikeb
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| Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 2:09 pm Post subject: |
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| PacAttack04 wrote: | What do you guys think of Brandon Taylor as a potential option for our defense? Former CB which Thompson may like, part of a great defense, though wasn't the close to being one of the best players on it. But played in a tough conference, veteran defender, can play in coverage.
Heres what jsonline had to say about him.
http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packers/draftcaps26-vn4vq7d-148982145.html
| Quote: | | Three-year starter. "Just remember this," one scout said. "He wears that No. 18 at LSU. Very special number. That's the war daddy number. Heart of a warrior. Incredibly smart. He plays aggressive and a little out of control at times, like Ryan Clark in Pittsburgh." Before last season, Tigers coach Les Miles asked Taylor to switch from No. 15 to No. 18, the jersey number worn with distinction by late LSU S Sean Taylor. Finished with 160 tackles (11½ for loss), four picks and 15 PBUs. "Tough kid," another scout said. "Probably be a starter. Runs pretty good. Would like to see him tackle better." Out of Franklinton, La. |
Seems like he could be a decent prospect this year. |
Umm...Sean Taylor went to Miami, and wore #26.  
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airstrike082
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If we can get any one of these guys today, I'll be happy. Trent Richardson, Morris Claiborne, Michael Brockers, Melvin Ingram, Doug Martin, Andre Branch, Dontari Poe, Peter Konz, Whitney Mercilus, Chandler Jones, Vinny Curry, Shea McClellin, Stephon Gilmore, Don'ta Hightower.
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Sandybaby716
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| incognito_man wrote: | | Sandybaby716 wrote: | Regarding Taylor, if we want him it will probably be with our second rounder. That's about where his draft stock is at the moment, and he may not even make it there.
Regarding Perry, I'm not so sure we run a hybrid. There was a speculative piece about how we may switch to one, but there has been no word of such a change coming from the coaches or front office. Perry could possibly be a player as a nickel rusher with his hand in the dirt regardless, but I feel like that would be an awfully niche position to take with a first rounder. |
maybe hybrid was the wrong term. But he'd certainly have a spot on the nickle defense I'd think (which we run a TON) and wouldn't be a niche position IMO. |
that's valid, but the board would have to shake out a very specific way for me to be happy with the selection..I do like the idea much more than trying to get him to handle the duties of an OLB
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GBPackers79
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Adam Schefter @AdamSchefter
Teams open to trading up if right player is there include Jacksonville, Buffalo, Philadelphia, San Diego, New England, Green Bay |
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Packerfaninmn
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| GBPackers79 wrote: | Adam Schefter @AdamSchefter
Teams open to trading up if right player is there include Jacksonville, Buffalo, Philadelphia, San Diego, New England, Green Bay |
I want to buy this but ever since Schefter switched allegiances his credibility has really dropped.
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Schefter: Ted, is there a possibility of moving up?
Ted: There will be good football players before our pick, there will be good football players at our pick, and there will be good football players after our pick. We are going to try and get the best football players possible.
Schefter: Thanks Ted, good luck.
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ugLymayNe
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The only players for the Pack that I view worthy of trading up for are Cox or Ingram, and that would mean moving up into the top 15. But if it happens, TT knows better than I.
| Sandybaby716 wrote: | | incognito_man wrote: | | Sandybaby716 wrote: | Regarding Taylor, if we want him it will probably be with our second rounder. That's about where his draft stock is at the moment, and he may not even make it there.
Regarding Perry, I'm not so sure we run a hybrid. There was a speculative piece about how we may switch to one, but there has been no word of such a change coming from the coaches or front office. Perry could possibly be a player as a nickel rusher with his hand in the dirt regardless, but I feel like that would be an awfully niche position to take with a first rounder. |
maybe hybrid was the wrong term. But he'd certainly have a spot on the nickle defense I'd think (which we run a TON) and wouldn't be a niche position IMO. |
that's valid, but the board would have to shake out a very specific way for me to be happy with the selection..I do like the idea much more than trying to get him to handle the duties of an OLB |
That can be said for multiple players. Perry might not be the best fit for OLB but with the fact we run our nickel around 2/3s of the time might make his value higher than others. Matthews dropped in coverage 22% of his snaps vs the pass while Walden dropped around 30%...I think Perry could drop around how much Matthews did most of last year(it seemed as if he was dropping more often towards the end of the season and I think his #'s might be skewed a little). I have Perry ranked behind Branch as a OLB but I think I would take him over him because I think he will bring that pass rush from day one. But then again if Peprah is starting at safety I don't think it matters too much.
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Sandybaby716
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| Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 3:47 pm Post subject: |
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| ugLymayNe wrote: | The only players for the Pack that I view worthy of trading up for are Cox or Ingram, and that would mean moving up into the top 15. But if it happens, TT knows better than I.
| Sandybaby716 wrote: | | incognito_man wrote: | | Sandybaby716 wrote: | Regarding Taylor, if we want him it will probably be with our second rounder. That's about where his draft stock is at the moment, and he may not even make it there.
Regarding Perry, I'm not so sure we run a hybrid. There was a speculative piece about how we may switch to one, but there has been no word of such a change coming from the coaches or front office. Perry could possibly be a player as a nickel rusher with his hand in the dirt regardless, but I feel like that would be an awfully niche position to take with a first rounder. |
maybe hybrid was the wrong term. But he'd certainly have a spot on the nickle defense I'd think (which we run a TON) and wouldn't be a niche position IMO. |
that's valid, but the board would have to shake out a very specific way for me to be happy with the selection..I do like the idea much more than trying to get him to handle the duties of an OLB |
That can be said for multiple players. Perry might not be the best fit for OLB but with the fact we run our nickel around 2/3s of the time might make his value higher than others. Matthews dropped in coverage 22% of his snaps vs the pass while Walden dropped around 30%...I think Perry could drop around how much Matthews did most of last year(it seemed as if he was dropping more often towards the end of the season and I think his #'s might be skewed a little). I have Perry ranked behind Branch as a OLB but I think I would take him over him because I think he will bring that pass rush from day one. But then again if Peprah is starting at safety I don't think it matters too much. |
the thing is, if Perry drops the 22%, that would mean Clay would have to pick up the slack and drop the 30%. Matthews is solid in coverage, but I don't want to lower the percentage of snaps he rushes.
All in all, I think a 4-3 team would find much more value in Perry than we do. I actually think he can be a regular pro bowler in the right fit. Not so sure that this is that fit.
Regardless, just a few hours until we find out. I don't think I've ever been so excited for a draft.
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ugLymayNe
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| Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 4:12 pm Post subject: |
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| Sandybaby716 wrote: | | Regardless, just a few hours until we find out. I don't think I've ever been so excited for a draft. |
No kidding. We have no clue who will be there, seems like this year is going to be completely random(even moreso than usual)>
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| Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 4:16 pm Post subject: |
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| incognito_man wrote: | | how would people feel about having Nick Perry play as a DE in our hybrid system if he GAINED weight? |
I'd rather see him lose 10-15 pounds and improve his lateral quickness. I think if we pick him he's going to be strictly an OLB. |
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