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With the 4th Pick in the NFL Draft, the Browns select:

 
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Who do the Browns select at fourth overall?
Khalil Mack
25%
 25%  [ 3 ]
Qbs Bortles or Manziel
58%
 58%  [ 7 ]
OTs Robinson or Matthews
16%
 16%  [ 2 ]
WR Mike Evans
0%
 0%  [ 0 ]
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bballbkd1001


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 08, 2014 3:58 pm    Post subject: With the 4th Pick in the NFL Draft, the Browns select: Reply with quote

Round 1
Pick
1. Houston Texans - JaDeveon Clowney

2. St. Louis Rams (from Washington Redskins)- Sammy Watkins

3. Jacksonville Jaguars - Teddy Bridgewater

4. Cleveland Browns
5. Oakland Raiders
6. Atlanta Falcons
7. Tampa Bay Buccaneers
8. Minnesota Vikings
9. Buffalo Bills
10. Detroit Lions
11. Tennessee Titans
12. New York Giants
13. St. Louis Rams
14. Chicago Bears
15. Pittsburgh Steelers
16. Dallas Cowboys
17. Baltimore Ravens
18. New York Jets
19. Miami Dolphins
20. Arizona Cardinals
21. Green Bay Packers
22. Philadelphia Eagles
23. Kansas City Chiefs
24. Cincinnati Bengals
25. San Diego Chargers
26. Cleveland Browns (from Indianapolis Colts)
27. New Orleans Saints
28. Carolina Panthers
29. New England Patriots
30. San Francisco 49ers
31. Denver Broncos
32. Seattle Seahawks


Once again, many different perspectives on the Jacksonville pick. although mack had the most votes, the three qbs are taking votes from each other (it's like three democrats running for election.)


NEXT UP on the clock is the cleveland browns.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 08, 2014 4:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cleveland and manziel seem like the most obvious pick in this draft. they have the weapons and a solid defense with the players they brought in. Two of the top offensive lineman in the league. Never had that franchise quarterback... 2014 is the year that ends
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 08, 2014 4:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Still going BPA. Can easily get Carr at 26.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 08, 2014 6:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Assuming Clevaland waits and goes BPA (non-QB), a QB could go at
5. Raiders
8. Vikings
20. Cardinals
33. Texans

Cleveland could wait, go BPA. Get Evans to pair with Gordon, Mack because he is a stud, or whatever they need (not extremely familiar with their roster), and at 26 still get a QB. Say Manziel goes 5, Bortles goes 8. That leaves Carr at 26. Better value in that scenario.
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Kodaraw wrote:
Assuming Clevaland waits and goes BPA (non-QB), a QB could go at
5. Raiders
8. Vikings
20. Cardinals
33. Texans

Cleveland could wait, go BPA. Get Evans to pair with Gordon, Mack because he is a stud, or whatever they need (not extremely familiar with their roster), and at 26 still get a QB. Say Manziel goes 5, Bortles goes 8. That leaves Carr at 26. Better value in that scenario.


The thing about bpa verses quarterbacks, is how many khalil mack/evans/barr will win you games compared to a top quarterback. Eli for example... despite our very good defense, eli had 15 4th quarter tds in 2011. We won because of him.

Sure there will be the Trent dilfers who are mediocre. But in the past decade, both teams making it to the super bowl have very good/elite qbs

Between the Texans/Jacksonville/Vikings/raiders and Arizona all looking to finally have a good to great quarterback, someone could miss out on one of the top 4
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Kodaraw wrote:
Assuming Clevaland waits and goes BPA (non-QB), a QB could go at
5. Raiders
8. Vikings
20. Cardinals
33. Texans

Cleveland could wait, go BPA. Get Evans to pair with Gordon, Mack because he is a stud, or whatever they need (not extremely familiar with their roster), and at 26 still get a QB. Say Manziel goes 5, Bortles goes 8. That leaves Carr at 26. Better value in that scenario.


hypotehtical: who's the most likely QB available at 12 that someone would trade up to want to get? and who is that team?
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dkebones wrote:
Kodaraw wrote:
Assuming Clevaland waits and goes BPA (non-QB), a QB could go at
5. Raiders
8. Vikings
20. Cardinals
33. Texans

Cleveland could wait, go BPA. Get Evans to pair with Gordon, Mack because he is a stud, or whatever they need (not extremely familiar with their roster), and at 26 still get a QB. Say Manziel goes 5, Bortles goes 8. That leaves Carr at 26. Better value in that scenario.


hypotehtical: who's the most likely QB available at 12 that someone would trade up to want to get? and who is that team?


Well, if any of the top 3 QB's fall to 12 I think the following teams could POTENTIALLY think about trying to grab one of them:

Bengals - Maybe a year early for a move (at least from 24 to 12)
Cardinals - Could make a move? I would if I were them. They need someone good to replace Palmer if he goes down AND need to start thinking about the future at some point. The man IS 34.

Don't see the Raiders/Bucs/Vikings/Rams trading up after passing on them...
I really want to add the Titans but it seems they're locked in with Locker...

So outside of...well, no one really. I don't think anyone would trade up to get a QB if one falls to us.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2014 6:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can see the rams drafting one at 13...
Bradford is in his contract year and rams dont see him as a top qb
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2014 7:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bballbkd1001 wrote:
I can see the rams drafting one at 13...
Bradford is in his contract year and rams dont see him as a top qb

Bradford had his best year prior to his injury, so they will be committed at least for 2014. This will be his prove-it year.
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