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PostPosted: Tue Apr 08, 2014 6:08 pm    Post subject: What could the Redskins Top 100 Big Board look like? Reply with quote

In preparation for the NFL Draft, every NFL franchise prepares a big board based upon what their team needs are and the best prospects that fill those needs.

As we all know, the Redskins have many needs, but no glaring "need" where they "must" draft a position.

Bruce Allen, Jay Gruden and company could go in any number of directions with their picks in the 2014 NFL Draft and it would make sense.

Here is a list of some names I believe will be on the Redskins Big Board:

1. Haha Clinton-Dix, FS, Alabama
2. Ra'Shede Hageman, DT/DE, Minnesota
3. Daqueze Dennard, CB, Michigan St
4. Kony Ealy, DE/OLB, Missouri
5. Louis Nix, NT, Notre Dame
6. Calvin Pryor, FS, Louisville
7. David Yankey, G Stanford
8. Taylor Lewan, OT, Michigan
9. Xaiver Su'a-Filo, OG, UCLA
10. Kelvin Benjamin, WR, FSU
11. CJ Mosely, ILB, Alabama
12. Zack Martin, RT/OG, Notre Dame
13. Ryan Shazier, LB Ohio State
14. Stephon Tuitt, DT/DE, Notre Dame
15. Jimmie Ward, S, Northern Illinois
16. Jordan Matthews, WR Vanderbilt
17. Jace Amaro, TE, Texas Tech
18. Dion Bailey, S, USC
19. Lamarcus Joyner, FS/CB, FSU
20. Terrence Brooks, FS, FSU
21. Keith McGill, CB, Utah St
22. Marcus Martin, C, USC
23. Marcus Roberson, CB, FLorida
24. Carl Bradford, OLB, Arizona
25. Trent Murphy, OLB, Stanford
26. Martavias Bryant, WR, Clemson
27. Brandon Thomas, RT/OG, Clemson
28. Allen Robinson, WR, Penn State
29. Troy Niklas, TE, Notre Dame
30. Morgan Moses, RT, Virginia
31. Weston Richburg, C, Colorado State
32. Stanley Jean-Baptiste, CB, Nebraska
33. Austin Seferian-Jenkins, TE, Washington
34. Davante Adams, WR, Fresno State
35. Jeremiah Attaochu, OLB, Georgia Tech
36. Chris Borland, ILB, Wisconsin
37. Ed Reynolds, FS Stanford
38. Gabe Jackson, OG, Mississippi State
39. Paul Richardson, WR, Colorado
40. Jarvis Landry, WR, LSU
41. Craig Loston, FS, LSU
42. Deon Buchannon, SS Washington State
43. Taylor Hart, DE, Oregon
44. Demarcus Lawrence, OLB, Boise St
45. Cyrus Kouandjio, RT, Alabama
46. Ahmad Dixon, SS, Baylor
47. Anthony Johnson, DT/DE, LSU
48. Jared Abbrederis, WR, Wisconsin
49. Tre Boston, FS, North Carolina
50. Trevor Reilly, DE/OLB, Utah
51. Cameron Flemming, RT, Stanford
52. Travis Swanson, C, Arkansas
53. Jaylen Watkins, CB, Florida
54. Cyril Richardson, G/RT, Baylor
55. Donte Moncrief, WR, Ole Miss
56. DaQuan Jones, NT, Penn State
57. Jack Mewhort, RT, Ohio State
58. Dominique Easley, DE/DT, Florida
59. Bruce Ellington, WR, South Carolina
60. Louchiez Purifoy, CB, Florida
61. Seantrel Henderson, OT, Miami
62. Chris Watt, G, Notre Dame
63. Arthur Lynch, TE, Georgia
64. Marcus Smith, DE/OLB, Louisville
65. Christian Jones, LB, FSU
66. Dakota Dozier, G, Furman
67. Jackson Jeffcoat, DE/OLB, Texas
68 Antonio Richardson, RT, Tennessee
69. Daniel McCullers, NT, Tennessee
70. Dri Archer, KR/RB/WR, Kent State
71. Jordan Zumwait, ILB, UCLA
72. Will Clarke, DE/DT, West Virginia
73. Chris Smith, DE/OLB, Arkansas
74. Shayne Skov, ILB, Stanford
75. Brandon Coleman, WR, Rutgers
76. CJ Fiedorowicz, TE, Iowa
77. Terrance Mitchell, CB, Oregon
78. Rashaad Reynolds, CB, Oregon State
79. Chris Davis, CB, Auburn
80. Anthony Steen, G, Alabama
81. Adrian Hubbard, DE/OLB, Alabama
82. Brent Urban, DE/DT, Virginia
83. Billy Turner, RT, North Dakota
84. Yarwin Smallwood, ILB, Conneticut
85. Kelcy Quarles, DE/DT, South Carolina
86. Bryan Stork, C, Florida State
87. Mike Davis, WR, Texas
88. Justin Ellis, NT, Louisiana Tech
89. Shaquille Richardson, CB, Arizona
90. Max Bullough, ILB, Michigan St
91. Jordan Najvar, TE, Baylor
92. Antone Exum, CB/FS, Va. Tech
93. La'Danian Washington, WR, Missouri
94. Charles Leno, RT, Boise State
95. Josh Huff, WR, Oregon
96. Andrew Jackson, ILB, Western Kentucky
97. Tevin Reese, WR, Baylor
98. Shaq Evans, WR, UCLA
99. Devin Street, WR, Pittsburgh
100. Michael Campanaro, WR, Wake Forest

The Redskins big board should focus on many areas. For the first time on recent memory, the Redskins have the luxury of going best player available with every selection.

The Redskins could select a wide receiver or two in the draft, they could select a few offensive lineman, a few defensive lineman, a few inside linebackers, a few corner backs, an outside linebacker, a safety, or a tight end. The prospects selected are in order of their value and range from players with late first round grades to those with seventh round grades.

We still have a month till draft day (why'd you move it back two weeks Goddell?? ) anyways, it never hurts to plan ahead.
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You have Morgan Moses in 2 spots
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You have Morgan Moses in 2 spots
good eye, thanks man
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You have Morgan Moses in 2 spots
good eye, thanks man
He shouldn't be anywhere near #4. I could easily argue he shouldn't be #30.
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Dro wrote:
You have Morgan Moses in 2 spots
good eye, thanks man
He shouldn't be anywhere near #4. I could easily argue he shouldn't be #30.
#4 for us is late 1st or early 2nd. #30 is late 2nd, just saying. When I redid it, I left him at 30.

I inserted Kony Eloy. I feel Eloy can be a situational pass rusher, both as an outside pass rusher/OLB or a pass rusher on 3rd downs as a5 technique.

I feel Elroy can pack on 15-20 lbs over the next year of so and develop into a good 5 technique for us and be a pass rushing 5 technique for us.
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turtle28 wrote:
Dro wrote:
You have Morgan Moses in 2 spots
good eye, thanks man
He shouldn't be anywhere near #4. I could easily argue he shouldn't be #30.
#4 for us is late 1st or early 2nd. #30 is late 2nd, just saying. When I redid it, I left him at 30.

I inserted Kony Eloy. I feel Eloy can be a situational pass rusher, both as an outside pass rusher/OLB or a pass rusher on 3rd downs as a5 technique.

I feel Elroy can pack on 15-20 lbs over the next year of so and develop into a good 5 technique for us and be a pass rushing 5 technique for us.
I like Kony Ealy. He would be interesting fr our defense, I agree we need to get someone who can generate more pass rush. I think Moses should be a 4th round pick, so that would put him at #64 or later.
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Great topic. I would have to do a lot more research to put together 100, but there are some the very top of that list I would have to say.

1. CJ Mosely, ILB, Alabama - This is who I really really really hope for - I feel Like he could run D for so many years to come. Instincts and Physical Talent. Cant imagine hed fall, but if we had the 10th pick I would hope we'd pick him.
2. Haha Clinton-Dix, FS, Alabama Awesome as well
3. Taylor Lewan, OT, Michigan - Long term RT
4. Daquaneze Dennard, CB, Michigan St - Talented, but I don't know why he's getting knocked. Has to be some baggage or something.
5. Kony Ealy, DE/OLB, Missouri - Love him just not sure where he fits
6. Louis Nix, NT, Notre Dame - could be awesome anchor for the line
7. Ryan Shazier, LB Ohio State - Freak athlete to pressure on 3rd D packages
8. Calvin Pryor, FS, Louisville - Like haha. cant argue with that. But still hopeful for Thomas to come around.
9. Jace Amaro, TE, Texas Tech - hate the idea of a wr skill position, but he is sick, and could add another crazy dimension/options for the O
10. Ra'Shede Hageman, DT/DE, Minnesota - Hear hes pretty good? Honestly don't know anything but from all accounts is a good possible option at 34.
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daskins wrote:
Great topic. I would have to do a lot more research to put together 100, but there are some the very top of that list I would have to say.

1. CJ Mosely, ILB, Alabama - This is who I really really really hope for - I feel Like he could run D for so many years to come. Instincts and Physical Talent. Cant imagine hed fall, but if we had the 10th pick I would hope we'd pick him.
2. Haha Clinton-Dix, FS, Alabama Awesome as well
3. Taylor Lewan, OT, Michigan - Long term RT
4. Daquaneze Dennard, CB, Michigan St - Talented, but I don't know why he's getting knocked. Has to be some baggage or something.
5. Kony Ealy, DE/OLB, Missouri - Love him just not sure where he fits
6. Louis Nix, NT, Notre Dame - could be awesome anchor for the line
7. Ryan Shazier, LB Ohio State - Freak athlete to pressure on 3rd D packages
8. Calvin Pryor, FS, Louisville - Like haha. cant argue with that. But still hopeful for Thomas to come around.
9. Jace Amaro, TE, Texas Tech - hate the idea of a wr skill position, but he is sick, and could add another crazy dimension/options for the O
10. Ra'Shede Hageman, DT/DE, Minnesota - Hear hes pretty good? Honestly don't know anything but from all accounts is a good possible option at 34.
1. Would love Mosely. He would become the new leader of our defense.
2. I don't see any way that Clinton-Dix is there at our pick. Probably just as well, Alabama DBs haven't done well in the NFL lately.
3. I don't see how Lewan gets to us either, unless teams freak about that fight he got in/legal issues. He would be our starting RT for the next 10 years probably. If he dropped into the later part of Round 1 I'd be willing to go up to get him.
4. I doubt Dennard drops out of the top 20 picks. He'd be a great pick if somehow he got to us.
5. I think Kony Ealy is a good prospect, I just don't know how he fits our defense. For a 2nd round pick I think you've gotta fit our 3-4 scheme.
6. Louis Nix is awesome and another prospect I'd be willing to trade up into the first for. Then kick Cofield outside to DE.
7. I like Shazier, he's a bit undersized but he's good in coverage. If he's there at 34 I definitely pull the trigger but I probably wouldn't move up for him.
8. I think Pryor will go in the top 20. If he's there at 34 you obviously take him. I would not be for trading up to draft a safety.
9. Amaro is a really good prospect. He would add another weapon to our offense, I just think a #2 TE is probably a luxury we can't afford in the 2nd round. I absolutely think we should draft a TE later on.
10. Hageman is one of my favorite prospects in the draft. If he slips to the back part of the first I would pull the trigger in a heart beat to move up for him. Obvious pick at 34.
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Now that free agency is over, it's pretty clear to me what positions we will be targeting. I think we will be looking for 1-2 OL that are preferably upgrades on the right side of the OL. It appears that our OL will consist of Trent at LT Lauvao at LG Lichtensteiger/Gettis at C Leribeus/Hurt/draft pick at RG and Polumbus/Compton/draft pick at RT. More concerned about that RG spot, although I have a lot more confidence in Leribeus than most. Not because he's necessarily proven anything, but he did look solid in limited action in '12. And seems like he has his head on straight this offseason so I am hopeful he at least competes for a job. I love Gabe Jackson/Cyril Richardson and pray one is available in the 3rd. If we go RT I have my eyes set on Bitonio.

The rest of the offense is pretty much set outside of in line TE and pass catching RB. Maybe a developmental receiver as well. Really Like CJ Fiedorowicz in that 4th round area if he falls. ASJ in the 3rd if he falls. They would also fill the need of big redzone target as well. Hopeful Chris Thompson can stay healthy to fill that Gio Bernard role. Still think Helu has a great chance of flourishing in that role as well.

On defense I still think we need another pass rusher. We have an offense that can potentially score points in a hurry and build big leads. Having a dangerous pass rush that can get after the QB in known passing situations would really compliment our potentially explosive offense. I'm in love with Demarcus Lawrence after watching some film on him the other day. Not sure if he falls to the 3rd though. Also love me some Marcus Smith. Outside of pass rusher I feel like we are still relatively weak up the middle on all levels of our defense. Meaning NT ILB and FS. Jimmie Ward is a guy that would be really high on my board at FS and would love if he was the pick at 34. Lamarcus Joyner as well. Jordan Zumwalt and Telvin Smith are two guys I really like at ILB. I know Smith is small but he would be a great chess piece to move around to cover RBs and TEs. Plays bigger than his weight too. At NT, Daquan Jones and Justin Ellis are the only two that really stick out to me that will be available at our picks. Maybe Ryan Carethers later on but he doesn't offer much if at all in the pass game. And Haslett seems to prefer someone at the NT position that can get a push and be disruptive.

I know I've said this multiple times but we NEED to acquire more picks in that 3,4,5 range. There will be starting talent available in those rounds. I'm hopeful we can trade Cousins and move back a couple of times to pick up as many picks as possible. This is the offseason that we could potentially really build the core of our football team for years to come. Unless there's someone seriously special sitting there at 34 I would trade back to acquire more picks/depth.
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Now that free agency is over, it's pretty clear to me what positions we will be targeting. I think we will be looking for 1-2 OL that are preferably upgrades on the right side of the OL. It appears that our OL will consist of Trent at LT Lauvao at LG Lichtensteiger/Gettis at C Leribeus/Hurt/draft pick at RG and Polumbus/Compton/draft pick at RT. More concerned about that RG spot, although I have a lot more confidence in Leribeus than most. Not because he's necessarily proven anything, but he did look solid in limited action in '12. And seems like he has his head on straight this offseason so I am hopeful he at least competes for a job. I love Gabe Jackson/Cyril Richardson and pray one is available in the 3rd. If we go RT I have my eyes set on Bitonio.
I thought I read from Rich Tandler or listened to it somewhere that Chris Chester was switching sides to LG.

Chester played LG for Forester when he coached the Ravens before we signed him in free agency in 2011.

Lauvao I thought was going to play right guard. He played RG for Cleveland the past several seasons.

Then, we also signed McGlynn to compete for the starting position at Center and a reserve guard position.

As you mentioned, we still have Lichtensteiger who will likely start at center (but that's not guaranteed). We have Gettis, who may be Kory's back up at center (but it's not guaranteed he makes the team). We have LeRibeus who I heard has really gotten serious and got himself in shape This offseason. He can back up at Center & Guard and may even start. Then, we have Hurt who can back up at guard and right tackle, who knows, there's an outside possibility LeRibeus or Hurt even start.

The only position where I'm seeing we use a 2nd or 3rd round pick for a starting position is possibly at RT, but even then I wonder how much better a rookie RT is going to be than Tyler Polumbus, but for the long haul, that's where I'd focus. Not forgetting of course that we have Tom Compton who can back up both tackles spots and I believe can play guard also.

Anyway you look at it though, it appears clear to me that even before the draft, this is the deepest our offensive line has looked since 2004-2006 and possibly even since we had the hogs in the 80s and early 90s.

Not saying we shouldn't address the OL, but I'm just putting it out there that the OL situation isn't as grim as many have made it. (Not saying you, just making a generalization of all redskins nation - media included)

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The rest of the offense is pretty much set outside of in line TE and pass catching RB. Maybe a developmental receiver as well. Really Like CJ Fiedorowicz in that 4th round area if he falls. ASJ in the 3rd if he falls. They would also fill the need of big redzone target as well. Hopeful Chris Thompson can stay healthy to fill that Gio Bernard role. Still think Helu has a great chance of flourishing in that role as well.
see this is where I veer off from you and Mknight. People undervalue Logan Paulsen and what he means to this offense. Logan is in his prime, and while I don't dismiss the notion that we could be selecting a mid round tight end to develop, I will dismiss the notion that the player will see more playingtime than Logan Paulsen.

I also think that Niles Paul is almost a virtual lock to make the roster given his special teams play, which many disagree with, but those must not see the value in special teams as I do and how hard it is to find players who know their role as mainly just a special teams only player and accept that role and take pride in it.

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On defense I still think we need another pass rusher. We have an offense that can potentially score points in a hurry and build big leads. Having a dangerous pass rush that can get after the QB in known passing situations would really compliment our potentially explosive offense. I'm in love with Demarcus Lawrence after watching some film on him the other day. Not sure if he falls to the 3rd though. Also love me some Marcus Smith.
I totally agree here, although we could certainly do worse at reserve OLB than Rob Jackson and Brandon Jenkins who I believe is really going to be ready to step up into a situational pass rushing role. Remember, he had late 1st or second round grade written all over him in 2011 but in 2012 at Florida State he had a lisfranc injury to his foot and it cost him lost of the 2012 season and pushed him down to a 5th round pick in the 2013 NFL draft.

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Outside of pass rusher I feel like we are still relatively weak up the middle on all levels of our defense. Meaning NT ILB and FS. Jimmie Ward is a guy that would be really high on my board at FS and would love if he was the pick at 34. Lamarcus Joyner as well. Jordan Zumwalt and Telvin Smith are two guys I really like at ILB. I know Smith is small but he would be a great chess piece to move around to cover RBs and TEs. Plays bigger than his weight too. At NT, Daquan Jones and Justin Ellis are the only two that really stick out to me that will be available at our picks. Maybe Ryan Carethers later on but he doesn't offer much if at all in the pass game. And Haslett seems to prefer someone at the NT position that can get a push and be disruptive.
I still don't think Cofield is a particularly weak point in our defense, behind him we have Baker and then we have Neild who should be better than he was last year because he'll be two years removed from tearing his ACL.

I'm not saying we should pass on NTs in the draft, but I think we have to all acknowledge that it's not a great weakness because we have 3 capable players at NT.

I agree at ILB, but I'm not sure why you'd try to force Telivin Smith into the 3-4 defense. He's a WLB in the 4-3 and the size of a SS, I really like him, but not for our defense. I'm sorry, he just doesn't fit.

In the mid rounds we should be looking at a guy like you mentioned - Jordan Zumwalt, or Christian Jones, Shayne Skov, Yarwin Smallwood, Max Bullough or Andrew Jackson.

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I know I've said this multiple times but we NEED to acquire more picks in that 3,4,5 range. There will be starting talent available in those rounds. I'm hopeful we can trade Cousins and move back a couple of times to pick up as many picks as possible. This is the offseason that we could potentially really build the core of our football team for years to come. Unless there's someone seriously special sitting there at 34 I would trade back to acquire more picks/depth.
I hope we can trade Cousins for a second or 3rd, if not, we need to hold onto him.

As for trading back, sorry, I'm not on board. This team has to hit on #34!

I'm tired of playing around every year, trading back and then missing on the best talent at a selection. I love Kerrigan, but trading back and missing on JJ Watt is a prime example!

Then, trading down from our second round pick twice that year to take Hankerson in the 3rd round is another prime example, I haven't looked, but I'm sure we passed on better prospects in the mid to late second in the 2011 draft.

We need to stay put at 34 and get a player that "could possibly" be a starter but mostly likely will just be "key" depth. I also wouldn't trade down in the 3rd round at #66 because that pick is basically like a second round pick.

Now, once we get to the 4th round and #78, I'd consider trading down because at that point you're really just looking at the last players to make your roster and special teams players or players to develop for the future.

Still though, we absolutely have to hit on 34 & 68, I'm not in favor of the trade down. Take the best player available that isn't a QB, WR, TE or RB and develop them as a reserve for a year.

The only place where I'm really concerned with depth on this team is cornerback. The more I've thought about it lately, the more I've realized a cornerback at pick 34, 66 or 78 is really needed for this team.
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turtle28 wrote:
BigJohnson wrote:
Now that free agency is over, it's pretty clear to me what positions we will be targeting. I think we will be looking for 1-2 OL that are preferably upgrades on the right side of the OL. It appears that our OL will consist of Trent at LT Lauvao at LG Lichtensteiger/Gettis at C Leribeus/Hurt/draft pick at RG and Polumbus/Compton/draft pick at RT. More concerned about that RG spot, although I have a lot more confidence in Leribeus than most. Not because he's necessarily proven anything, but he did look solid in limited action in '12. And seems like he has his head on straight this offseason so I am hopeful he at least competes for a job. I love Gabe Jackson/Cyril Richardson and pray one is available in the 3rd. If we go RT I have my eyes set on Bitonio.
I thought I read from Rich Tandler or listened to it somewhere that Chris Chester was switching sides to LG.

Chester played LG for Forester when he coached the Ravens before we signed him in free agency in 2011.

Lauvao I thought was going to play right guard. He played RG for Cleveland the past several seasons.

Then, we also signed McGlynn to compete for the starting position at Center and a reserve guard position.

As you mentioned, we still have Lichtensteiger who will likely start at center (but that's not guaranteed). We have Gettis, who may be Kory's back up at center (but it's not guaranteed he makes the team). We have LeRibeus who I heard has really gotten serious and got himself in shape This offseason. He can back up at Center & Guard and may even start. Then, we have Hurt who can back up at guard and right tackle, who knows, there's an outside possibility LeRibeus or Hurt even start.

The only position where I'm seeing we use a 2nd or 3rd round pick for a starting position is possibly at RT, but even then I wonder how much better a rookie RT is going to be than Tyler Polumbus, but for the long haul, that's where I'd focus. Not forgetting of course that we have Tom Compton who can back up both tackles spots and I believe can play guard also.

Anyway you look at it though, it appears clear to me that even before the draft, this is the deepest our offensive line has looked since 2004-2006 and possibly even since we had the hogs in the 80s and early 90s.

Not saying we shouldn't address the OL, but I'm just putting it out there that the OL situation isn't as grim as many have made it. (Not saying you, just making a generalization of all redskins nation - media included)

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The rest of the offense is pretty much set outside of in line TE and pass catching RB. Maybe a developmental receiver as well. Really Like CJ Fiedorowicz in that 4th round area if he falls. ASJ in the 3rd if he falls. They would also fill the need of big redzone target as well. Hopeful Chris Thompson can stay healthy to fill that Gio Bernard role. Still think Helu has a great chance of flourishing in that role as well.
see this is where I veer off from you and Mknight. People undervalue Logan Paulsen and what he means to this offense. Logan is in his prime, and while I don't dismiss the notion that we could be selecting a mid round tight end to develop, I will dismiss the notion that the player will see more playingtime than Logan Paulsen.

I also think that Niles Paul is almost a virtual lock to make the roster given his special teams play, which many disagree with, but those must not see the value in special teams as I do and how hard it is to find players who know their role as mainly just a special teams only player and accept that role and take pride in it.

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On defense I still think we need another pass rusher. We have an offense that can potentially score points in a hurry and build big leads. Having a dangerous pass rush that can get after the QB in known passing situations would really compliment our potentially explosive offense. I'm in love with Demarcus Lawrence after watching some film on him the other day. Not sure if he falls to the 3rd though. Also love me some Marcus Smith.
I totally agree here, although we could certainly do worse at reserve OLB than Rob Jackson and Brandon Jenkins who I believe is really going to be ready to step up into a situational pass rushing role. Remember, he had late 1st or second round grade written all over him in 2011 but in 2012 at Florida State he had a lisfranc injury to his foot and it cost him lost of the 2012 season and pushed him down to a 5th round pick in the 2013 NFL draft.

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Outside of pass rusher I feel like we are still relatively weak up the middle on all levels of our defense. Meaning NT ILB and FS. Jimmie Ward is a guy that would be really high on my board at FS and would love if he was the pick at 34. Lamarcus Joyner as well. Jordan Zumwalt and Telvin Smith are two guys I really like at ILB. I know Smith is small but he would be a great chess piece to move around to cover RBs and TEs. Plays bigger than his weight too. At NT, Daquan Jones and Justin Ellis are the only two that really stick out to me that will be available at our picks. Maybe Ryan Carethers later on but he doesn't offer much if at all in the pass game. And Haslett seems to prefer someone at the NT position that can get a push and be disruptive.
I still don't think Cofield is a particularly weak point in our defense, behind him we have Baker and then we have Neild who should be better than he was last year because he'll be two years removed from tearing his ACL.

I'm not saying we should pass on NTs in the draft, but I think we have to all acknowledge that it's not a great weakness because we have 3 capable players at NT.

I agree at ILB, but I'm not sure why you'd try to force Telivin Smith into the 3-4 defense. He's a WLB in the 4-3 and the size of a SS, I really like him, but not for our defense. I'm sorry, he just doesn't fit.

In the mid rounds we should be looking at a guy like you mentioned - Jordan Zumwalt, or Christian Jones, Shayne Skov, Yarwin Smallwood, Max Bullough or Andrew Jackson.

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I know I've said this multiple times but we NEED to acquire more picks in that 3,4,5 range. There will be starting talent available in those rounds. I'm hopeful we can trade Cousins and move back a couple of times to pick up as many picks as possible. This is the offseason that we could potentially really build the core of our football team for years to come. Unless there's someone seriously special sitting there at 34 I would trade back to acquire more picks/depth.
I hope we can trade Cousins for a second or 3rd, if not, we need to hold onto him.

As for trading back, sorry, I'm not on board. This team has to hit on #34!

I'm tired of playing around every year, trading back and then missing on the best talent at a selection. I love Kerrigan, but trading back and missing on JJ Watt is a prime example!

Then, trading down from our second round pick twice that year to take Hankerson in the 3rd round is another prime example, I haven't looked, but I'm sure we passed on better prospects in the mid to late second in the 2011 draft.

We need to stay put at 34 and get a player that "could possibly" be a starter but mostly likely will just be "key" depth. I also wouldn't trade down in the 3rd round at #66 because that pick is basically like a second round pick.

Now, once we get to the 4th round and #78, I'd consider trading down because at that point you're really just looking at the last players to make your roster and special teams players or players to develop for the future.

Still though, we absolutely have to hit on 34 & 68, I'm not in favor of the trade down. Take the best player available that isn't a QB, WR, TE or RB and develop them as a reserve for a year.

The only place where I'm really concerned with depth on this team is cornerback. The more I've thought about it lately, the more I've realized a cornerback at pick 34, 66 or 78 is really needed for this team.


Totally agree with the no trade, we have been trading down for so long (except RGIII), that we never really get the best guy. If you see an impact player, you get him. We might be one o the worst teams in the nil as far as this goes- OL, and i bet most people can name anybody on our D outside of Orakpo, Kerrigan, and DHall (only because he has a mouth on him).

Amaro will be really good. The question i ask myself is would Jimmy Graham be worth the 34th, a proven guy who will make your offense better. I might be pissed if we sent the 34 to the saints because its not a need this year, but going into next years i might be cool with us having the greatest TE combo. That said - I'm not sure how i would feel with graham - amaro is by no means graham yet.
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Jordan Reed is every bit as good as Ebron & Amaro.

Gotta take DL, OT, CB, or ILB @ 34 and 66
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The Rockettes were supposed to be performing a new show in two week, that's why the draft date was changed. The show has since been cancelled to be tweaked and will come out next year as there are no open dates for RCMH for the rest of the year.
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mrdriii wrote:
The Rockettes were supposed to be performing a new show in two week, that's why the draft date was changed. The show has since been cancelled to be tweaked and will come out next year as there are no open dates for RCMH for the rest of the year.


The NFL had wanted to move the draft back anyway. I think they'll use that as an excuse to move it to May permanently.
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