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Who was a better player?
Jack Lambert
45%
 45%  [ 11 ]
Jack Ham
54%
 54%  [ 13 ]
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 4:28 pm    Post subject: Jack Ham vs. Jack Lambert Reply with quote

I have heard a mixed bag of who people think was the better player/linebacker. Obviously, they both played different positions but who was the better player?

Jack Ham
*25.5 sacks, 32 Interceptions, 21 Fumble Recoveries, 2 TD
*8 Pro Bowl Selections
*7 Time AP All Pro Selections (6 1st Team Selections)
*1975 Pro Football Writers Defensive Player of the Year
*1970's All Decade Team
*75th Anniversary Team

Jack Lambert
*23.5 sacks, 28 Interceptions, 17 Fumble Recoveries
*9 Pro Bowl Selections
*7 Time AP All Pro (6 1st Team Selections)
*1976 AP Defensive Player of the Year
*1970's All Decade Team
*75th Anniversary Team
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 6:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Unfortunately, I never got the chance to see either play. Lambert was supposedly the backbone of the steel curtain, though.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 07, 2011 1:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jack Ham. Lambert was the meanest SOB to ever play the game and a great linebacker in his own right, but I feel like his legend is helped a ton by his attitude and the way he attacked the ball carrier. Jack Ham was the epitome of everything you want from a linebacker. He was elite in all aspects of his game and as good as they come.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 08, 2011 4:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Never had the opportunity to see either play live. From what I saw on tv from replays and I thought it was Lambert
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 09, 2011 3:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eoqdpg_Q7Us

As the great Fran Tarkenton once said, Jack Lambert was a fine football player, but Andy Russell and Jack Ham, they were great football players.

If you give me the choice of Lambert or Ham, I take Ham every single time. He was an incredible coverage linebacker, he and Andy Russell and their ability in coverage allowed their front 4 and Lambert to play predominantly downhill football.

I think Jack Ham was the best outside linebacker to ever play the game, better than LT. Ham did everything you could ever ask of a linebacker and he did it brilliantly. If you put Ham outside in a 34 defense he probably would have racked up 100+ sacks for his career, but that was not what his team asked of him.

*Aside, I was not alive to see any of their games, but I have seen a few of the Superbowls they were in during the 70's, I have seen the AFC Game vs the Raiders that Tarkenton mentions in the above video.*
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 09, 2011 11:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

"I'll take Ham on five, hold the mayo."



Ham's game was said to be flawless. You don't find players that fundamentally sound anymore.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 09, 2011 1:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bmore4life815 wrote:
Unfortunately, I never got the chance to see either play. Lambert was supposedly the backbone of the steel curtain, though.



Can't say I have ever heard that before. If anything it was Joe Greene and then Jack Ham
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 1:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jack Ham. The guy was the complete package and more.

If Mean Joe Greene was the backbone of that defense, then Ham was the glue that held it all together because of his smart play.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 11:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not going to vote simply b/c I didn't have the luxury of watching them play week in and week out live and simply have high light reels to go off of.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 1:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ham was more technically sound but Lambert was more feared. I saw Lambert play as a kid at the Astrodome, this was a big rivalry in the old AFC Central. The Steelers had knocked out the Oilers in back to back AFC championship games so there was a lot of built up hate whenever they came to town and the boo-birds were always out.

The Oilers didn't get many victories in those days but I'll never forget the Monday night affair when Earl Campbell broke a tackle and ran right through Lambert, then gave a nice stiffy to Dirt Winston down the seam before he rode him out of bounds. It's the type of play that's ingrained in your memory forever and one of the first of many plays that endeared me to Earl Campbell.



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