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PostPosted: Sat May 07, 2011 12:36 am    Post subject: 2012 Prospect Thread (Where Man Crushes Happen) Reply with quote

This will be for the discussion of the prospects for the 2012 draft. Much like JCs for last years prospects, same idea this year. If we are already seeing mocks flying about, time to discuss some prospects.

QB:
Andrew Luck, Stanford

RB:
Chris Polk, RB Washington

WR:
Alshon Jeffery, WR South Carolina
Mohammed Sanu, WR Rutgers

DT:
Alameda Ta’Amu, DT Washington

4-3 DE:
Vinny Curry, DE Marshall

3-4 DE:

4-3 OLB:
Nigel Bradham, OLB Florida State
Travis Lewis, OLB Oklahoma

3-4OLB:
Brandon Jenkins, DE/OLB Florida State

MLB:
Manti Te’O, MLB Notre Dame
Luke Kuechly, MLB/OLB Boston College

CB:
Cliff Harris, CB/R Oregon
Donnie Fletcher, CB Boston College
Desmond Trufant, CB Washington

S:
Ray Ray Armstrong, S Miami (fl)
Kenny Tate, S/LB Maryland
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PostPosted: Sat May 07, 2011 12:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Going to start this off by listing my top-10 pre-season rankings...If there is a name off (read Matt Barkley) I don't see them entering this year.

2012 Top 10 Positions:

QB:
Andrew Luck, Stanford
Landry Jones, Oklahoma
Matt Barkley, University of Southern California
Kirk Cousins, Michigan State
Brandon Weeden, Oklahoma State
Nick Foles, Arizona
Geno Smith, West Virginia
Tyler Wilson, Arkansas
Ryan Katz, Oregon State
Casey Keenum, Houston

RB:
LaMichael James, Oregon
Trent Richardson, Alabama
Cyrus Gray, Texas A&M
Chris Polk, Washington
Knile Davis, Arkansas
Montee Ball, Wisconsin
Isaiah Pead, Cincinnati
Boone Herron, Ohio State
Caleb King, Georgia
Montel Harris, Boston College

TE:
Michael Egnew, Missouri
Dwayne Allen, Clemson
George Bryan, North Carolina State (see him being an OT in the NFL)
David Paulson, Oregon
Blake Ayles, Miami (fl)
Philip Lutzenkirchen, Auburn (Full Back)
Reid Fragel, Ohio State
Evan Rodriguez, Temple
Coby Fleener, Stanford

WR: (15)
Alshon Jeffery, South Carolina
Justin Blackmon, Oklahoma State
Mohamed Sanu, Rutgers
Jeff Fuller, Texas A&M
Greg Childs, Arkansas
Michael Floyd, Notre Dame
Ryan Broyles, Oklahoma
Marquis Maze, Alabama
Marvin McNutt, Iowa
Chris Owusu, Stanford
Denard Robinson, Michigan (Running Back/Return Specialist)
DeVier Posey, Ohio State
Dwight Jones, North Carolina
Nick Toon, Wisconsin
Bert Reed, Florida State

OT:
Matt Kalil, University of Southern Califronia
Riley Reiff, OT Iowa
Nate Potter, Boise State
Matt Reynolds, Pittsburgh
Andrew Datko, Florida State
Mike Adams, Ohio State
Jonathan Martin, Stanford
Ricky Wagner, Wisconsin
Trevor Olson, Northern Illinois
Elvis Fisher, Missouri

OG:
Kelechi Osemele, Iowa State
Stephen Good, Oklahoma
Kevin Zeitler, Wisconsin
David DeCastro, Stanford
Larry Warford, Kentucky
Brandon Washington, Miami (fl)(Monster of a man)
Cordy Glenn, Georgia
Ryan Miller, Colorado
Austin Pasztor, Virginia
Ken Plue, Purdue

OC:
Peter Konz, Wisconsin
Mike Brewster, Ohio State
David Molk, Michigan
Philip Blake, Baylor
Ben Jones, Georgia
Ben Habern, Oklahoma
Mario Benavides, Louisville
Drew Schaefer, Washington
Moe Petrus, Connecticut
Jeremiah Hatch, Kansas

DE:
Quenton Coples, University of North Carolina
Donte Paige-Moss, University of North Carolina
Brandon Jenkins, Florida State
Jonathan Massaquoi, Troy
Vinny Curry, Marshall
Andre Branch, Clemson
Jared Crick, Nebraska
Broderick Binns, Iowa
Jake Bequette, Arkansas
Cameron Meredith, Nebraska
Margus Hunt, Southern Methodist

DT:
Alameda Ta'amu, Washington
Tydreke Powell, University of North Carolina
Jerel Worthy, Michigan State
Montori Hughes, Tennessee
Michael Daniels, Iowa
Kawann Short, Purdue
Marcus Forston, Miami (fl)
Josh Chapman, Alabama
Brandon Thompson, Clemson
Renard Williams, Eastern Washinton

OLB:
Nigel Bradham, Florida State
Zach Brown, University of North Carolina
Travis Lewis, Oklahoma
Tank Carder, Texas Christian University
Kenny Tate, Maryland
Nico Johnson, Alabama
Gerald Hodges, Penn State
Demetrius Hartsfield, Maryland
Brandon Lindsey, Pittsburgh
Emmanuel Acho, Texas

MLB:
Vontaze Burfict, Arizona State
Courtney Upshaw, Alabama
Manti Te'o, Notre Dame
Luke Kuechly, Boston College
Don'ta Hightower, Alabama
Shayne Skov, Stanford
Patrick Larimore, UCLA
James-Michael Johnson, Nevada
Chris Marve, Vanderbilt
Chris Galippo, University of Southern California

CB:
Stephon Gilmore, South Carolina
Dre Kirkpatrick, Alabama
Jayron Hosley, Virginia Tech
Cliff Harris, Oregon (Return Specialist)
Alfonzo Dennard, Nebraska
Donnie Fletcher, Boston College
Chase Minnifield, Virginia
Desmund Trufant, Washington
Shaun Prater, Iowa
Brandon Boykin, Georgia


FS:
Robert Lester, Alabama
Janzen Jackson, Tennessee
Lance Mitchell, Oregon State
Blake Gideon, Texas
Eddie Whitley, Virginia Tech
George Iloka, Boise State
Corey Mosley, Virginia
Nick Moody, Florida State
Kemal Ishmael, University of Central Florida
T.J. McDonald, University of Southern California

SS:
Kenny Tate, Maryland
Ray Ray Armstrong, Miami (fl)
Mark Barron, Alabama
Winston Guy, Kentucky
DeVonte Holloman, South Carolina
Rod Woodson, North Alabama
JaJuan Harley, Florida State
Orhian Johnson, Ohio State
Tony Dye, UCLA
Sean Cattouse, California
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PostPosted: Sat May 07, 2011 3:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If Tank Carder can show better tackling technique over the season I would love to have him. The other player I have a man crush on is Greg Reid as I believe he'll leave school early.
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PostPosted: Sat May 07, 2011 4:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

DjBuddaH wrote:
If Tank Carder can show better tackling technique over the season I would love to have him. The other player I have a man crush on is Greg Reid as I believe he'll leave school early.



If we lose out on the FA sweepstakes for a 2 top LBs this offseason, I would love to have this in the draft:

Round One:
Vontaze Burfict, MLB Arizona State

Round Two:
Nigel Bradham, OLB Florida State

Round Three:
Desmund Trufant, CB Washinton

There are some heavy hitters this year potentially.
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Its A Sabotage wrote:
DjBuddaH wrote:
If Tank Carder can show better tackling technique over the season I would love to have him. The other player I have a man crush on is Greg Reid as I believe he'll leave school early.



If we lose out on the FA sweepstakes for a 2 top LBs this offseason, I would love to have this in the draft:

Round One:
Vontaze Burfict, MLB Arizona State

Round Two:
Nigel Bradham, OLB Florida State

Round Three:
Desmund Trufant, CB Washinton

There are some heavy hitters this year potentially.


ur crazy because 1 Teo is a better ILB than Burfict and 2 theres no way in hell that Trufant falls to the 3rd most mocks at this stage have him going round 2
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PostPosted: Sat May 07, 2011 9:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jagsr4real wrote:
Its A Sabotage wrote:
DjBuddaH wrote:
If Tank Carder can show better tackling technique over the season I would love to have him. The other player I have a man crush on is Greg Reid as I believe he'll leave school early.



If we lose out on the FA sweepstakes for a 2 top LBs this offseason, I would love to have this in the draft:

Round One:
Vontaze Burfict, MLB Arizona State

Round Two:
Nigel Bradham, OLB Florida State

Round Three:
Desmund Trufant, CB Washinton

There are some heavy hitters this year potentially.


ur crazy because 1 Teo is a better ILB than Burfict and 2 theres no way in hell that Trufant falls to the 3rd most mocks at this stage have him going round 2


Before the '09 season most mocks had Snead going in round 1, how did that work out? It's not like round 2 and 3 are that far off anyways.
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PostPosted: Sat May 07, 2011 11:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It looks like a strong linebacker class.

If Prater is truly a top 10 CB in the class then either he has a monster of a 2011 season or this CB class is weak. Wink
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Adrenaline_Flux wrote:
It looks like a strong linebacker class.

If Prater is truly a top 10 CB in the class then either he has a monster of a 2011 season or this CB class is weak. Wink


Strong CB class, most of the are juniors so we will see.
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Adrenaline_Flux wrote:
It looks like a strong linebacker class.

If Prater is truly a top 10 CB in the class then either he has a monster of a 2011 season or this CB class is weak. Wink


Strong CB class, most of the are juniors so we will see.


I'm going to presume that you believe Prater is going to have one hell of a 2011 season then.
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skaterbirdhouse wrote:
jagsr4real wrote:
Its A Sabotage wrote:
DjBuddaH wrote:
If Tank Carder can show better tackling technique over the season I would love to have him. The other player I have a man crush on is Greg Reid as I believe he'll leave school early.



If we lose out on the FA sweepstakes for a 2 top LBs this offseason, I would love to have this in the draft:

Round One:
Vontaze Burfict, MLB Arizona State

Round Two:
Nigel Bradham, OLB Florida State

Round Three:
Desmund Trufant, CB Washinton

There are some heavy hitters this year potentially.


ur crazy because 1 Teo is a better ILB than Burfict and 2 theres no way in hell that Trufant falls to the 3rd most mocks at this stage have him going round 2


Before the '09 season most mocks had Snead going in round 1, how did that work out? It's not like round 2 and 3 are that far off anyways.


lets see why wouldnt trufant go in the 2nd? he gets hurt and out for season. he has the bloodlines, size, and athleticism and some ball skills. means he wont go past round 2. sneads thing was based off of potential and expectations. trufants is actually based on what he has done and his measurables and bloodlines.
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Its A Sabotage wrote:
Not to burst any bubbles but your first 3 picks are all 1st rounders. Second you have no small school players. That is all.

By the way...lol at that mcnutty comment...#1 wr in the big 10.


thats the difference between my opinion and your opinion.

Josh Robinson is about the 8th best corner if everyone declares. jeffery i know is a 1st round guy hence the 1st round. perry could take a fall and i see him as a 15th best DE in the draft and IMO that fits well as a 3rd round pick average of 5 taken per round.

as for mcnutt i can name atleast15 wrs i would want before i would take him. it also must mean its a weak class of wr in then big 10.

i think i would rather have Posey from Ohio State and Toon from wisconsin. both IMO are more talented then mcnutt. the only reason u saying hes the best in the confrence is cuz of them iowa homer shades


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I will make this short as I an,on,my phone
Mcnutt comes from a.similar offense, elite size, speed, and xan block like a TE. So me someone in the B10 who can match that. No homerism about it.

U mad bc I called you out on a,poor moch and that's all you got.

sincerely,
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no ur mad that i think that mcnutt will be nothing more than a 4th wr in the nfl. i dont see how 4.6 40 is ELITE speed.

i have my opinion, you have yours. does the draft ever fall the way you think it will. the answer is no it doesnt. who here though brandon harris would have fallen to the texans in the 3rd round. most of us had harris going before the 3rd round. i think perry is probably 2nd round talent but probably falls like everson griffen did.


I wouldn't expect any different from you.

Also, not that it matters, but Brandon Harris went in round 2.
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Adrenaline_Flux wrote:
Its A Sabotage wrote:
Adrenaline_Flux wrote:
It looks like a strong linebacker class.

If Prater is truly a top 10 CB in the class then either he has a monster of a 2011 season or this CB class is weak. Wink


Strong CB class, most of the are juniors so we will see.


I'm going to presume that you believe Prater is going to have one hell of a 2011 season then.


Better than last year yes. I think he ends up being a top-6 SENIOR CB. Given there are 3-4 Juniors worth taking, makes him top-10 and probably a late 2nd to early 3rd. (Assuming my guess of 3-4 corners go in the top 20)
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BTW I think I did call Brandon Harris that late...told you he was no good.
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Either today or tomorrow I will throw out my non-bcs/DII school player list.
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I don't think he goes that early. Fletcher and Spievey were round 3/4 guys and Prater is nowhere near the level that Fletcher and Spievey were.
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