Jets Mock Draft (2/12)

Spiel612 · Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2006 5:15 pm Post subject: Jets Mock Draft (2/12)

4b = Herm Compensation
4c, 6b, 7b = Compensatory Selections (unofficially)

1. D'Brickashaw Ferguson, OT, Virginia
Adding in the highest rated LT since Orlando Pace, sending Adrian Jones back to his natural position of RT, and securing the exterior of the offensive line sounds too good to pass up.

2. Deuce Lutui, OG, USC
With the growing speculation that Jean-Gilles will get taken in the 1st by Seattle, Lutui is a monster and would eventually replace Pete Kendall at LG. However, Nick Mangold is a serious possibility at that pick because Jean-Gilles is gone. Another serious consideration will go to Kamerion Wimbley because of his incredible athleticism. He is very, very similar to John Abraham and would make a great 3-4 OLB. This isn't my favorite pick, but I think if we can get Eslinger in the 3rd then don't bother with Mangold because Eslinger is very similar to Kevin Mawae.

3. Greg Eslinger, C, Minnesota
I love this pick. Nick Mangold is going to be a great center, but Eslinger will be make a great starter here in 1-2 years.

4a. Parys Haralson, DE/OLB, Tennessee
Haralson will fill in for John Abraham and I believe could actually start. He's ideal for the 3-4 OLB.

4b. Manase Hopoi, DT/DE, Washington
He's an undersized DT, but he'll very easily fit into the 3-4 as a DE at 6'4'' 290 pounds.

4c. Anthony Schlegel, ILB, Ohio State
It's either Schlegel or Hoyte here. Either would fit the 3-4 ILB mold and would add great depth. Vilma and Hobson will be our ILB next season (Hobson was an ILB at Michigan).

5. Barrick Nealy, QB, Texas State
While I'm not much of an advocate of taking a QB at all in this draft, I felt like value wise this was the correct pick. We can give a project of his caliber the 2-3 years he needs and maybe Nealy will wind up like David Garrard.

6a. Marcus Maxey, CB, Miami (FL)
Adds some size to our CB core and will play dime for us.

6b. Troy Reddick, OT, Auburn
We've already taken an offensive tackle, but this pick is more for depth and youth.

7a. Matt Trannon, WR, Michigan State
Basketball star at MSU, 6'6'' 225 pounds, could conceivably gain some weight and play TE or stay at WR. Either way, with his leaping ability he'd be an incredible redzone threat.

7b. Lonta Hobbs, HB, TCU
Depth pick. If he can make the roster over Martin, Blaylock, or Houston than good for him. He's the kind of player that needs to prove himself in the pre-season. Perhaps Hobbs will have some of the Tomlinson magic.
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jonyankee1nyj · Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2006 5:52 pm Post subject:

similer to are community mock so naturally i like it. i really dont lik the nealy pik, i'd rather have a Rb lik norwood who actually has a realistic shot of making the team and is very fast, and take a QB lik baseneaz or Pinegar.

grade= A-

watup · Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2006 6:12 pm Post subject:

I really like this draft but I would go with Olsen in the fifth if availale or maybe Jerious Norwood. Besides that you have us really bulking up our O-line and getting our defense ready for the transition to the 3-4 which is a need

jetsfan4life51 · Joined: 12 Jan 2006 Posts: 30516 Location: lawn guy land

i dont like the nealey pick i dont want them getting a qb. david thomas TE from texas would be good but idk if hes gonna be there. otherwise excellent draft. if jean-gilles fell that would be even better but i still like the deuce pick.
A- b/c of the qb pick
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Spiel612 · Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2006 7:54 pm Post subject:

Maybe Montavious Stanley would be a better pick than Barrick Nealy. I'll consider changing it.
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ekill08x · Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2006 8:03 pm Post subject:

i want jerious norwood in the 4th. Good draft because of the wholes u filled. the jets need more picks, its that simple. i would be disapointed if they traded abe for rivers. i just want lots of picks, i even want at leats a 4th for law. ultimatley if this team wants to be competeive, they need to dump salaries like crazy and have 2 picks in each of the first 3 rounds, which is crazy but this new GM must get more picks.maybe 2 pick in each of first 3 is extreme but when u have your team looks liek the jets do, you have to pull off the etreme. good mock though. its obvious the fans want...OT, OG, C, in the first 3.

ike4life1989 · Joined: 01 Feb 2006 Posts: 142

i am completly against this draft no offense to you but grabbing THREE consecutive offensive lineman with so many glaring holes for young talent all around the jets would kill me as a jet fan

there are linebacker needs, d-back needs, rb needs, qb needs, te needs, but the first three rounds all o-lineman which is a position where there are a TON of veterans??? i just wouldnt want that to happen

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jetsfan4life51 · Joined: 12 Jan 2006 Posts: 30516 Location: lawn guy land

yea it may be ugly but hte best thing to do is go oline the first 3 picks
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Spiel612 · Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2006 6:49 pm Post subject:

ike4life1989 · Joined: 01 Feb 2006 Posts: 142

Spiel612 · Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2006 9:35 pm Post subject:

So what happens when we take the skill players? They just go behind a terrible o-line and they suffer? Controversey gets created. Pressure, more than needed, is put on them. A great player might get his career ruined.

It's happened to both Tim Couch and Joey Harrington. David Carr is well on his way as well if his line doesn't pick up.

No, we shore up the line this season. Why? Fabini has 1 year left on his deal. And I can guarantee he won't be around when his deal is up. Take D'Brick and get him to learn as much technique as he can fit into a year. The Lutui pick I'm not so big on anymore because I don't think he's worth our spot in the 2nd, but to defend the actual selection, he would learn a lot from Kendall who often gets injured and there is absolutely NO DEPTH behind him. Lutui would be starting here if not mid-way through the season then by the start of next year.

Eslinger is the next Kevin Mawae and with two years of grooming would be starting here. Those players would solidify the line. Allowing us to focus on so many other needs. When you have a brilliant offensive line you can stick average running backs in and they can perform well. The offensive line is the key to winning, 8 of the 12 teams in the Top 12 for least sacks made it to the playoffs including Seattle. None of the 12 teams in the bottom 12 in sacks allowed made it to the playoffs. We need to solidify the offensive line before anything. It doesn't matter how glamorous a pick is as long as it helps the team. And in this case, the offensive line would be youthful, strong, and solid for a very long time. An offense can only go as far as an offensive line can take it.

And I have seen Victor Hobson play. He's an excellent linebacker. And Mark Brown played pretty well for a backup this season in Barton's abscence. To say otherwise is ridiculous. I didn't say he was a starter caliber, but Brown is definitely a quality backup to have.

And this same o-line that won Martin the rushing title is also the reason that Pennington, Fielder, Testaverde, Bollinger, and Kingsbury all were forced to play. You think they just got hurt by throwing a football? You think it was Martin's fault that there were no holes to run through? Tell me, how many times did Pennington get hit in those first 3 games? It was too many times. Testaverde got hit an absurd amount of times and Bollinger took the brunt of the punishment this season. We gave up the 3rd most sacks in the league and we have issues with our LT, LG, and C. It makes perfect sense to address it with players of the caliber that I have put in. When there are both age AND injury problems for three of your 5 offensive lineman you know you are in trouble.

QB will be addressed in the off-season, a veteran will be brought in to compete with Pennington and I would not have us taking a QB unless Pennington was cut.

The offensive line is the key to the offensive success, offensive success on the Jets is the key to balance, and balance is the key to victory.
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NikeFootball05 · Joined: 09 Nov 2005 Posts: 2027 Location: New Jersey

The offensive line is the most important part of the offense. A mediocre quarterback and running back can thrive behind an All Star O Line. But a mediocre O Line with a star quarterback and running back don't usually win Super Bowls (like Indianapolis). Manning was sacked 5 times against Pittsburgh and that's one of the reasons they lost.

Look at past teams that have won Super Bowls: Pittsburgh, New England, Baltimore, and St. Louis. Pittsburgh has one of the best O Lines in the league. New England's O Line is a unit that works hard together, no all stars. Their chemistry is similar to Denver (they've had a 1,000 yard rusher the past God knows how many seasons). Baltimore has had one of the best O Lines in football these past few years, but they are getting a little old. And they have an all star tackle in Jonathon Ogden (who of course gets comparisons to D'Brick). And without their stellar O Line, the Greatest Show On Turf would have not existed.

Without the O Line, a QB does not have adequate time to scan the field for the open man and the running back does not have any running room to break the big one.

Wouldn't it be better to get the Top Prospects and have them groomed by our vets? I mean, the rookies could definitely do well on their own. But if we had the vets mentored them, they are one step of ahead of all the other lineman drafted that year, basically two steps if you factor talent in.

The first thing you have to do to make a great offense is make a great O Line. People get confused an say a franchise QB is the need first. Wrong. You need a reliable group of big, hard workers that will take care of your franchise guy years to come.

Our linebackers are pretty solid. Vilma will be the best one day, Hobson is a great run stopper, and Barton is a great hitter also, but he can cover well too. If we switch to a 3-4, we can definitely get a solid fourth backer in the 3rd-7th rounds. And our depth is pretty good as well. Gardener is a reliable backup. McClover and Wright are special team aces. And Brown has the talent to start. So we're pretty set at depth. I do admit, we need a fourth backer and then a younger one in a couple of years to replace Barton.

Late round replacements are usually in the late rounds for a reason. Lack of experience or glaring weaknesses set them back. In other words, they are not as ready as D'Brick, Mangold, Spencer, Eslinger, or Jean-Gilles.

And we can't go another year with an O Line that is inexperienced and old.

You defintiely seem like someone that wants impact players without giving them an O Line to work with. Adrian Peterson, Reggie Bush, DeAngelo Williams, etc.. can run consistently with a mediocre O Line. But put them behind a young, all star O Line and they'll rip the defenses to shreds.

Houston dropped to the sixth because he could not attend the combine. People did not see how good he was because his hyperthyroid was holding him back. And I have no idea how Cotchery slipped to the fourth.

Wow, if Bollinger had that O Line, he'd kill. Notice in games this season that he was constantly being forced out of the pocket. With that O Line, he'd have time to make reads and make the right throws. He showed excellent flashes when he was given time against Atlanta and San Diego.

High picks on O Line are only smart. You can't go wrong. Setting the foundation that will make the our offense the new "Greatest Show on Turf" would definitely be worth our high draft picks.
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Spiel612 · Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 8:23 am Post subject:

Just to add on the Indy comparison...

They gave up the least sacks this season (20). And they went 14-2 in the regular season.

In the playoffs they gave up 5 sacks and got knocked out in their 1st game like Nike said. That should be the ultimate proof right there of how important o-line is.
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