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potentia_ceteri


Joined: 13 Feb 2005
Posts: 96
Location: chicago
PostPosted: Sat Feb 19, 2005 8:33 am    Post subject: New and Improved Bears Reply with quote

Here's how it goes by my last LJ shelton trade

QB-Rex Grossman, Kurt Warner, Chad Hutchinson
WR-Mike Williams, TJ Houshmanzadeh, Terrell, Berrian, Gage, Wade
TE-Anthony Becht, Desmond Clark, Darnell Sanders, Dustin Lyman
RB-Thomas Jones, Ciatrick Fason, Adrian Peterson
OG-Ruben Brown(hopefully painfree), Rex Tucker, Terrence Metcalf, Qasim Mitchell
OT-L.J. Shelton, John Tait, Qasim Mitchell, Marc Colombo
C-Olin Kreutz, Patrick Mannelly
K-Paul Edinger, Rhys Lloyd

Defense
DE-Ogunleye, Alex Brown, Harris, Tank
DT-Tank, Harris, Ian scott, Boone
LB-Urlacher, Briggs, Mark Fields, Hillenmeyer, Reese
S-Mike Brown, Mike Green, Todd Johnson, Jazon Shiver, Ben Emanuel
CB-Tillman, Vasher, Azumah, R-Dub, Todd McMillon

Great lineup, especially improved ofense! Go bears!
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DABEARS


Joined: 27 Dec 2004
Posts: 258
Location: Illinois
PostPosted: Sat Feb 19, 2005 4:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

with columbo recovering from injury, we might as well give him a chance at RT next year - why waste a draft pick to get another guy who is not proven when we have needs - i think a G is more needed than a T, especially youth considering that brown is old and tucker is injury prone and may be a cap casualty.
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potentia_ceteri


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 20, 2005 2:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

columbo would be an average starter at best. LJ Shelton has the chance to be a great starter. He's bigger, faster, and a bigger athlete. Now Columbo deserves a chance to compete, but that's all the chance he deserves. Beside Angelo wants a decent line now, not when Columbo becomes a praised average starter in 2 years. As for your take on the need for a guard, yes, they do need a guard, but should procure one via free agency, as for the draft you could get a chance at a decent one in the 4th-5th round, as it pretty much a push and shove position. A fourth round and a somewhat bust of a 1st round pick is a decent tradeoff for a good-very good young starter. The bears maybe should also give them a third round next year for him. Besides, there isn't a OT who is considered a franchise tackle in the first or second round. Barron, Brown, and Barnes are going to be excellent tackles for the nest 5-7 years, but there is no Ferguson(back in school) or a decent tackle in this draft to overlook a playmaker at WR, RB, TE for. I would rather have Ciatrick Fason, wiliamson, chris henry, shazor, burnett, morency, heath miller all over Brown or Adam terry in the first. Angelo should think playmakers this year and then pickup a prospective OT next year. And ruben brown is still a decent-good offensive starter.
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redwing5


Joined: 23 Feb 2005
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Location: Downers Grove, IL
PostPosted: Wed Feb 23, 2005 8:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I propose this trade:

Cards trade:
-SHELTON
-5th RD

Bears trade:
-COLOMBO
-R-DUB (I'll miss you but...)
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potentia_ceteri


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 23, 2005 10:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The cardinals know that shelton is a helluva lot better than colombo, a decent prospect but an injury waiting to happen. And they also know that r-dub is not worth the 3 mil he's being given, so they foresee a cap casualty. Why trade a disgruntled, decent lineman for a broken prospect and a cap casualty?
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