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FakingInjuries


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 6:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I appreciate the effort.... but it seems like a lot of useless numbers to me.


There is no exact way of knowing how good a 34 OLB will be. There is no science to drafting.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 7:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

FakingInjuries wrote:
I appreciate the effort.... but it seems like a lot of useless numbers to me.


There is no exact way of knowing how good a 34 OLB will be. There is no science to drafting.


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 10:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

FakingInjuries wrote:
There is no science to drafting.

That's why they dissect every micromovement each player makes in specific workouts and examinations.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 2:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

FakingInjuries wrote:
I appreciate the effort.... but it seems like a lot of useless numbers to me.


There is no exact way of knowing how good a 34 OLB will be. There is no science to drafting.


if these numbers are so useless, then how can you explain how accurate they are? The science of drafting is to take the players with the highest probability of success, now would you rather take a guy in the high risk or low risk category is that was all you knew about him?
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 4:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

FakingInjuries wrote:
I appreciate the effort.... but it seems like a lot of useless numbers to me.


There is no exact way of knowing how good a 34 OLB will be. There is no science to drafting.
if there was no science and no way to tell if players will succeed, why do teams have scouting departments? Better yet, why doesn't the NFL just randomly assign players to teams and so away with the draft? Afterall, each player has an equal shot at success.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 4:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

FakingInjuries wrote:
There is no exact way of knowing how good a 34 OLB will be. TRUE. There is no science to drafting. FALSE.


You could cut out a few words and say....There is no exact science to drafting......and that would be true.

There is no formula that will tell you whether or not a player will succeed. That's not what Waldo was trying to accomplish though. He was trying to find out if there was a formula that predicted (or would have predicted) whether or not a player was more or less likely to succeed.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 5:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

FakingInjuries wrote:
I appreciate the effort.... but it seems like a lot of useless numbers to me.


There is no exact way of knowing how good a 34 OLB will be. There is no science to drafting.


I remember back when the Wifedraggers were dominating pro football. Soon the Cromagnons and Spearchuckers caught on that the Wifedraggers were checking players for 4 tree dash times and bench press of pterodactyl femurs. The very next moonphase, Hewho Standsupright was enslaved with the number one overall pick and he went out to shatter the passing record with 67 armlengths in a single season. Truly one of the greatest tossers of the dinoskin ever.

So you never know - these things have a way of catching on
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FakingInjuries wrote:
I appreciate the effort.... but it seems like a lot of useless numbers to me.


There is no exact way of knowing how good a 34 OLB will be. There is no science to drafting.

this from the guy who thinks new England is the best drafting team the past few years
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 11:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Deep Mug wrote:
FakingInjuries wrote:
There is no science to drafting.

That's why they dissect every micromovement each player makes in specific workouts and examinations.

Right, but the funny thing is that despite all the extra effort and time, numbers/data-crunching, etc. they do now, they still bust at the same rate as they did 40 years ago. They've not gotten much better. Yu still get your Arian Fosters going undrafted, and your Blaine Gabberts going in round 1.
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TedThompson wrote:
Deep Mug wrote:
FakingInjuries wrote:
There is no science to drafting.

That's why they dissect every micromovement each player makes in specific workouts and examinations.

Right, but the funny thing is that despite all the extra effort and time, numbers/data-crunching, etc. they do now, they still bust at the same rate as they did 40 years ago. They've not gotten much better. Yu still get your Arian Fosters going undrafted, and your Blaine Gabberts going in round 1.


Keep in mind other people are crunching the numbers too, so at this point your just catching up or keeping pace by doing it. Hadn't seen this, very interesting to see how it shakes out this draft.
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Just wondering, is anyone going to be able to figure out the numbers for this year's pass rushers?
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 12:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

green24 wrote:
Just wondering, is anyone going to be able to figure out the numbers for this year's pass rushers?
I plan on doing it again this year
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 11:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

justo wrote:
green24 wrote:
Just wondering, is anyone going to be able to figure out the numbers for this year's pass rushers?
I plan on doing it again this year


Yeah, I was going to too.
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I apologize for a bit of a late-bump (I was directed here from draft-prospect metric talk on another site), but I was wondering if within the massive 17 pages there was any talk about what to do when calculating "Twitch" and the prospect has a disproportionate shuttle compared to their 3-cone?

That is, the SS is used in calculating twitch so a "poor" SS could doom their rating. But for w/e reason some prospects have good/great/elite 3-cone times but poor SS times. (Mingo being an example this year. Fantastic 3-cone but average SS at best).
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What twitch does is it takes the sprinting part of SS and isolates their COD skills.
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