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NDKoke2


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2006 7:13 pm    Post subject: Mock with 2 trades..... Reply with quote

1st trade = John Abraham + '06 5th round to Oakland for '06 1st round and '06 3rd round
2nd trade = Ty Law to any taker for '06 2nd round

NY Jets '06 Picks:
1a.) OT D'Brickashaw Ferguson - Univ. Virginia
1b.) OLB A.J. Hawk - Ohio State Univ.
2.) OLB/DE Manny Lawson - N.C. State Univ.
3a.) WR Maurice Stovall - Univ. Notre Dame
3b.) DT Orien Harris - Univ. Miami
4a.) C Greg Eslinger - Univ. Minnesota -or- C Mike Degory - Univ. Florida (whoever is available)
4b.) ILB Juston London - UCLA
6.) TE T.J. Williams - N.C. State Univ.
7.) FB Rashon Powers-Neal - Univ. Notre Dame
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2006 7:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

trades are so unrealistic cmon that will never happen!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

first 5 piks are good but eslinger isnt a 4th rounder, the piks are overall great but u got to cut those unfair trades.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2006 7:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You have us picking two defensive players in the first two rounds
We need help on our O-line and eslinger wont be there in the 4th
I would take out hawk and get lendale or deangelo or maybe even look to trade down that pick
I would also use the second on jean-giles if you were to take aj hawk with the 1st rounder
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2006 8:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

y would we take lawson n hawk?
i love the powerss neal pick
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2006 8:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

we will not get squat for ty law, instead of stovall you shoulda went with a C, again if you trade abe you need his replacement somewhere... lawson is to small for DE
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2006 8:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

peelout142 wrote:
we will not get squat for ty law, instead of stovall you shoulda went with a C, again if you trade abe you need his replacement somewhere... lawson is to small for DE


He meant to use Manny Lawson as a linebacker if we switch to the 3-4.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2006 9:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

what a waste of a pick that would be if we draft hawk in the first round
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2006 9:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NikeFootball05 wrote:
peelout142 wrote:
we will not get squat for ty law, instead of stovall you shoulda went with a C, again if you trade abe you need his replacement somewhere... lawson is to small for DE


He meant to use Manny Lawson as a linebacker if we switch to the 3-4.


Well then we would have more LBs then neccessary and a hole at the DE position and an old OL still
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2006 11:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

if the raider trade happens we should trade down with denver. we can snatch lawson and jean gilles then the 2nd round take mangold. then with the 4th take the best corner available.

now how does that sound?
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 08, 2006 12:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

we should get lendale white if we trade down with denver if available
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 08, 2006 9:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You must have high expectations for new GM. Abraham wont get us a #6 pick. Maybe 2nd rounder and a later pick. Law will get a 2nd day pick.

Also, Lawson, Harris & Eslinger wont be available where you have us picking them.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 08, 2006 11:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

what about trading abraham to dallas for ellis and glover?
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 08, 2006 11:59 am    Post subject: The greatest mock there is. Reply with quote

The Jets will trade John Abraham to the Chargers for the a 1st round pick (19th overall), and a 2nd (50th overall). They then will trade back from 19th overall with a team like the Bengals (24th overall) who wants to take a defensive playmaker (like Darnell Bing). The Jets will also pick up another 3rd round pick with this trade.



1 (4) - Haloti Ngata - Oregon. With the Jet's moving into the 3-4 and with the probability of them trading John Abraham, they make the decision that sacking the quarterback is the job of the LB's, not the front 3. They Get Ngata to play in the middle, the move Robertson to the outside, and Ellis stays on the other end spot. NGATA SOMETIMES CAN DEMAND TRIPPLE TEAMS. They will be mammoth and hard to run on. Think of Ngata as a LARGER, MORE ATHLETIC Richard Seymor.

1 (24) - Ernie Sims - Florida St. This is another pick to convert into the 3-4. Victor Hobson is a good linebacker, but his lack of speed will make him a better fit on the inside, with the speedy Vilma. Ernie Sims is an undersized, quick linebacker who reminds many scouts of Derick Brooks. Now just imagine having all those big boddies up front, allowing Vilma, Sims, Barton, and Hobson to create hell for opposing teams.

2 (a) - Jon Scott - Texas. The Jets need to upgrade the tackle position that Adrian Jones does not play. They will have to run the ball this year, and this guy is a great, athletic prospect. Either him, or Eric Winston would be a great fit here.

2 (b) - Antonio Cromartie - Florida St. There is no way that Ty Law will be back (his cap figure is $11 million), and although they may have found a starter in last years 2nd round pick (Justin Miller), they need someone to push both him and Barret for the starting CB job. If Cromartie is healthy -- he misssed his entire 2005 season with an injury, he is a top 10 pick, he would be a steal at this point and could possibly force Barret into the nickle spot, one in which his inability to cover 1-1 will not be exposed.

3 (a) - Jerome Harrison - Washington St. This guy ran for 1900 yards in college-- no small feet seeing an all how he outrushed Reggie Bush in overall yards and yard per carry when he played then top ranked USC. This guy is a star in the making and he only falls this far because he is considered undersized. There was another undersized running back who if I remember correctly has done quite well in the NFL -- Tiki Barber... All this guy needs is a strength coach and I can promise you he will become a star in this league. He will be the seal of the draft and will make a great 1-2 combo for years to come, along with Cedric Houston. Plus, having Curtis Martin around for your rookie year can never be a bad thing in helping to shape yourself as a player in this league.

3 (b) - Greg Eslinger - Minnesota. He is Kevin Mawae a decade later. He is undersized, but quick and athletic. He will be the heir apperent, and can learn under Mawae for the next year or two. Our OL is old, but this will help the youth movement.

4 (a) - Bruce Gradowski - Toledo. The team needs an insurance policy at QB, and this kid could wind up being much better than that. He has a great arm and can run. He can play throw the deep ball, and that is important in this league. He reminds me of a shorter, quicker version of Ben Rothlesberger. That is not a bad thing.

4 (b from Kansas City) - Will Allen - Texas. He is a brusing guard who played along with Jon Scott for the championship winning UT team. Allen is a good guard prospect with questions regarding his durability. He will prove those questions irrelevant and go on to have a great NFL career. It will probably only take him a year playing being Kendell before he can surpass him as the starting LG.

5 - Miles Austin - Monmouth. This WR has great size (6'3", 220) and is a surehanded Jersey product with good speed. He went to a small school, but so did Jerry Rice. Not to say he is Jerry Rice, but I would give him a chance, and he may have a chance to blossom as the next Wayne Chrebet (a local product/favorite), only with more size and speed (which would be an impressive combination if you remember Chrebet from his glory years).

6- Charlton Keith - Kansas. He is a tweener DE/LB but could wind up being a starter in a few years. He is a real sleeper pick who has gone straight under the rader (playing for Kansas). He runs a 4.47 50, had 8.5 sacks, as well as 20 tackles for a loss in his 2005 senior campaign. He did this in the big 12. He can be Mike Vrabel. Just give him a few years.

7- Lawrence Vickers - Colorado. I'm getting tired of doing this mock, but the Jets probably could use a new FB.

Bottom line, if we are moving to a 3-4 we need a monster in the middle, and Haloti Ngata would be perfect. That makes John Abraham and his monster contract demands expendable, and will allow for us to get a quick LB to roam free with Vilma behind larger lineman. We will stop the run much better than this past year, and will be hellish to opposing passing games. I like that option.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 08, 2006 4:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Since when was our defense the problem last season?

First dude (this is to Gutterson), there is no way the Jets get a 1st AND a 2nd for Abe. Edge and Alexander could only garner 3rds.

Ngata is a terrible pick. Way too tall to play NT. He'd be a DE most likely, but probably not a great one.

Ernie Sims are you kidding? In the 1st round? He's early 2nd at the best. Plus he is undersized for the 3-4 OLB spot. We need a tweener and we can get a good one later.

Scott isn't going to fall like people think. He's extraordinarly athletic.

Law won't be back, but we have more important needs than getting a CB. You are having us put almost the exact same offense out on the field because of these picks. We need to put some youth on the offense.

Harrison is a decent pick, but we also need help at guard at that point.

Eslinger is a good pick.

No QB's in this draft! We're going to have 3 on our roster next year as it is considering we're interested in a veteran.

Will Allen is a good, yet unrealistic pick as he's more of a mid 3rd early 4th guy.

Don't know Austin.

Keith is a solid pick.

Vickers won't be available in the 7th, he's considered the top FB in the draft. B.J. Askew went in the 3rd and do you think he's as good as Vickers will be?

Bottom line, 3 of our first 4 picks will not be defensive players. They didn't struggle, the offense did and it effected our defense via time of possession.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 08, 2006 6:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

wat ever position wenare not young at, we should draft. that is how much we should b rebulding
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