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Next Head Coach of the Browns. Who do you want
Mike Holmgren
11%
 11%  [ 3 ]
Bill Cowher
25%
 25%  [ 7 ]
Jon Gruden
40%
 40%  [ 11 ]
Mike Mularky
0%
 0%  [ 0 ]
Rob Ryan
7%
 7%  [ 2 ]
Charlie Wiess
0%
 0%  [ 0 ]
Brian Billick
3%
 3%  [ 1 ]
Ron Rivero
0%
 0%  [ 0 ]
Brad Childress
0%
 0%  [ 0 ]
Bill Parcells
0%
 0%  [ 0 ]
Marty Schottenheimer
11%
 11%  [ 3 ]
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BocaRatonBrown1


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 15, 2010 2:41 pm    Post subject: Top Available Coaching Prospects for 2011 Reply with quote

Went from worst record to best and tried to drum up some names to look at. These are the coaches I see attractive for us to move on.

Carolina Panthers <clean house>
Jim Skipper RB-Coach

Cincinatti Bengals <clean house>
Marvin Lewis DC-Coach
Kevin Coyle DB-Coach

Buffalo Bills
Stan Hixon WR-Coach
George Catavalos DB-Coach

Denver Broncos <new HC clean house>
Roman Phifer LB-Coach
Clancy Barone OL-Coach
Ben McDaniels QB-Coach
Josh McDaniels OC

Dallas Cowboys Intact - Jones Keeps Garrett he is paying him HC money anyways
Dave Campo DB-Coach

Arizona Cardinals
Russ Grim OL-Coach

Titans - Intact Shouldnt see any movement. But the Vince Young situation could change this.

San Francisco 49ers <small chance that they give this coaching staff another season>
Mike Singletary DC
Tom Rathman RB-Coach

Washington Redskins - Intact at least Shanny will get year 2 before they get blown up again.

Houston Texans - I see a change here its been 5 seasons with Kubiak
Gary Kubiak OC

Minnesota Vikings - Appears that they will keep most of there staff intact after Chilly being cut. I like Chilly as a name to kick around.
Brad Childress OC

Oakland Raiders - Intact
Paul Hackett QB-Coach

Seattle Seahawks - Intact

St Louis Rams - Intact

Miami Dolphins - Intact <But Sparano & staff enter 2011 on the hot seat>

Indianapolis Colts - Intact

San Diego Chargers - No Playoffs & there going to be some major talks
Ron Rivera - HC

Green Bay Packers - Intact

Tampa Bay Buccaneers - Intact

Jacksonville Jaguars - Intact

Kansas City Chiefs - Intact
Charlie Wiess wont turn down a HC position if its thrown out

Philadelphia Eagles - Intact

New York Jets - Intact

Chicago Bears - Intact

Baltimore Ravens - Intact

NY Giants - Intact

New Orleans Saints - Intact

Pittsburgh Stealers - Intact
Bruce Arians will be on a short list of names talked about going to the next level again.

New England Patriots - There coaches are always on the move up and after this season I see a couple names on the rise
Pepper Johnson - DC
Dante Scarnecchia - OC/HC

Atlanta Falcons - Intact How ever Mularky's name is already being tossed around
Mike Mularky - HC

Top 2011 New HC Prospects

Mike Holmgren
Bill Cowher
Jon Gruden
Rob Ryan
Mike Mularky
Ron Rivero
Brad Childress
Josh McDaniels
Charlie Wiess
Brian Billick
Josh McDaniels

Top 2011 OC Prospects

Josh McDaniels
Gary Kubiak
Brad Childress
Dante Scarnecchia

Top 2011 DC Prospects

Rob Ryan
Mike Singletary
Pepper Johnson

Coaching Staff Big Board for us. Just based on what little I know farting around playing Madden & NFL Head Coach...

HC Holmgren or Cowher
OC McDaniels or Kubiak
DC Singletary or Johnson
QB Hackett or McDaniels JR
RB Rathman or Skipper
WR Hixon or McCardell
OL Baron or Grimm
TE No names to think of that stick out
DL Bryan Cox <stays>
LB Roman Phifer
DB Coyle or Catavalos
ST No names to think of that stick out


Anyone have some names to add to the mix from college?

Bill Parcels probaly getting itchy again. Nobody has said anything about Marty in a while. Any other odd ball names to kick out there?

If we could sober up Kosar he would make a interesting prospect as a QB coach.

I will update the list with any names that should be added.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 15, 2010 4:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why is Eric Mangini not an option?
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 15, 2010 4:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i dont see Mike Holmgren leaving a great job to be the coach
Cowher wont coach the browns, he wants to see his kids play in their sports...

and the rest i dont want as a coach!
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 15, 2010 4:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dropkick_pride wrote:
Why is Eric Mangini not an option?

Obviously, he made this thread as a what-if, assuming that Mangini will be fired.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 15, 2010 5:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think the better poll may be to ask who is the leading candidate for OC?

Mangini will keep his job, Daboll will not. The team is responding to EM's approach, and their record is not that far away from where we all anticipated - between 5 - 11 and 8-8. Only thing that will haunt him is the QB debacle in 2009, and their assessment of WR talent entering this season - if they are so bad, then why were they comfortable with them heading into this season?

But i give Mangini credit for not throwing Delhomme under the bus with the press....he could have easily done that - instead he pointed the finger to everyone involved - WR's, Coaches, blocking, etc... you never once see Mangini throw players under the bus. That is a character quality that any player will want to work for.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 15, 2010 5:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ReggieCamp wrote:
Dropkick_pride wrote:
Why is Eric Mangini not an option?

Obviously, he made this thread as a what-if, assuming that Mangini will be fired.


and obviously I think the RUMOR is crap and thus this thread is as well.


The last Browns coach with a winning percentage was Marty. Since then the browns have averaged a new coach about every 2.25 years.....

How the %^&* can the team get any where like that?



SOOOOOO FRUSTRATING.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 15, 2010 6:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I went Gruden since I doubt Cowher will come here.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 15, 2010 6:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dropkick_pride wrote:
ReggieCamp wrote:
Dropkick_pride wrote:
Why is Eric Mangini not an option?

Obviously, he made this thread as a what-if, assuming that Mangini will be fired.


and obviously I think the RUMOR is crap and thus this thread is as well.


The last Browns coach with a winning percentage was Marty. Since then the browns have averaged a new coach about every 2.25 years.....

How the %^&* can the team get any where like that?



SOOOOOO FRUSTRATING.

It's just a what-if. No reason to get worked up.

I don't believe the rumor either, and I want us to keep some continuity, but it's OK to talk about hypotheticals.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 15, 2010 6:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ReggieCamp, hypotheticals is fine. I am just frustrated with some people on this board cheering that the Browns could be firing yet another coach.


In the last 20 seasons the Browns are tied for the most coaching changes in the NFL....


Cleveland Browns: 9/20 = .95
St. Louis Rams: 9/20 = .95
Oakland Raiders: 9/20 = .95
Washington Redskins: 9/20 = .95
New York Jets: 8/20 = .4
Atlanta Falcons: 8/20 = .4
Detroit Lions: 8/20 = .4
Buffalo Bills: 7/20 = .35
Miami Dolphins: 7/20 = .35
San Diego Chargers: 7/20 = .35
Dallas Cowboys: 7/20 = .35
Arizona Cardinals: 6/20 = .3
Indianapolis Colts: 6/20 = .3
Kansas City Chiefs: 5/20 = .25
Tampa Bay Buccaneers: 5/20 = .25
Seattle Seahawks: 5/20 = .25
San Francisco 49ers: 5/20 = .25
Green Bay Packers: 5/20 = .25
Minnesota Vikings: 5/20 = .25
New Orleans Saints: 5/20 = .25
Denver Broncos: 5/20 =.25
Cincinnati Bengals: 5/20 = .25
Houston Texans: 2/9 = .22
Chicago Bears: 4/20 = .2
New York Giants: 4/20 = .2
Baltimore Ravens: 3/15 = .2
New England Patriots: 4/20 = .2
Carolina Panthers: 3/16 = .18
Philadelphia Eagles: 3/20 =.15
Pittsburgh Steelers: 3/20 = .15
Jacksonville Jaguars: 2/16 = .12
Tennessee Titans: 2/20 = .1


Combine that with the fact the Browns have the most starting QB changes over the past 20 years in the NFL is it any wonder the team is at the bottom of the NFL? Firing another coach and bringing in another new coach with new systems, and then a whole new roster shift makes ZERO sense. It takes time....

Is it any surprise that the better teams have less QB and HC changes?
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 15, 2010 7:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

just want to throw this out there for you guys. mike singletary would not be a good defensive coordinator. he is a position coach nothing more nothing less. he has passion but no knowledge of the x's and o's of todays game.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 15, 2010 7:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dropkick_pride wrote:
Why is Eric Mangini not an option?


This is just based on a change not him staying. "next head coach"
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 15, 2010 7:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

THA DAWG POUND wrote:
just want to throw this out there for you guys. mike singletary would not be a good defensive coordinator. he is a position coach nothing more nothing less. he has passion but no knowledge of the x's and o's of todays game.


He would be the perfect DC with a defensive minded HC. Rob Ryan calling the D plays and Singletary getting in players faces all season long. I just see Singletary as being an exceptional defensive motivator. If he would take the role as LB coach even better.

I agree Sumurai Mike is not a X's & O's.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 15, 2010 8:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dropkick_pride wrote:
ReggieCamp, hypotheticals is fine. I am just frustrated with some people on this board cheering that the Browns could be firing yet another coach.



I see your point. Personally I have mixed feelings about firing Mangini. He has some good and bad qualities. I think I'll be ok with whatever Holmgren does. I think the Browns coach should do things the way Holmgren wants to (or atleast for the most part), and if Mangini and Holmgren don't see eye to eye then I guess Browns should bring in a new coach.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 15, 2010 9:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

First, Bill cowher, if he comes out of retirement, he is going to Carolina and second, why is Rob Ryan even a head coach candidate. All he has shown in all his years is that he is a defensive coordinator at best. I want Gruden
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 15, 2010 9:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mchjstnk wrote:
First, Bill cowher, if he comes out of retirement, he is going to Carolina and second, why is Rob Ryan even a head coach candidate. All he has shown in all his years is that he is a defensive coordinator at best. I want Gruden


yeah Ryan is a DC at best...

what makes you think Gruden deserves to be a headcoach? after winning a title with Dungys players he did squat for Tampa Bay.
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