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Who would you want?
Mike Trout
70%
 70%  [ 12 ]
Bryce Harper
11%
 11%  [ 2 ]
Joc Pederson
0%
 0%  [ 0 ]
Kris Bryant
17%
 17%  [ 3 ]
Carlos Correa
0%
 0%  [ 0 ]
Clayton Kershaw
0%
 0%  [ 0 ]
Giancarlo Stanton
0%
 0%  [ 0 ]
Someone Else
0%
 0%  [ 0 ]
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 05, 2015 12:04 am    Post subject: If you could have one player, given age and contract... Reply with quote

If you could pick one player to build your team around, considering their age and contract situation today, who would you pick?

Obviously for a few years this has been very obviously Mike Trout. Trout was (and most would agree still is) pretty easily the best player in baseball. He's in his early 20s. And he was cheap. Last year he signed a big deal so he was no longer cheap, though not prohibitively expensive either, but partially because there were no other particularly good candidates he was still the consensus choice.

But this year Bryce Harper, who is a year younger and is cheaper, is playing as well as Trout ever has. Joc Pederson and Kris Bryant have also been superb. They're rookies who will be under control longer and for less money. I'm not really sure who else would be a serious candidate but I added a few other names to the poll.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 05, 2015 12:10 am    Post subject: Re: If you could have one player, given age and contract... Reply with quote

mission27 wrote:
If you could pick one player to build your team around, considering their age and contract situation today, who would you pick?

Obviously for a few years this has been very obviously Mike Trout. Trout was (and most would agree still is) pretty easily the best player in baseball. He's in his early 20s. And he was cheap. Last year he signed a big deal so he was no longer cheap, though not prohibitively expensive either, but partially because there were no other particularly good candidates he was still the consensus choice.

But this year Bryce Harper, who is a year younger and is cheaper, is playing as well as Trout ever has. Joc Pederson and Kris Bryant have also been superb. They're rookies who will be under control longer and for less money. I'm not really sure who else would be a serious candidate but I added a few other names to the poll.


Trout then Harper for me. Trout is more expensive right now, but if Harper's 2015 is a new baseline for his career then who knows what he will fetch on the open market.

Bryant-Pederson-Stanton are going to be great players, but also have holes in their game. Correa it's too early to tell but if he is as good as his AA showed he can be then maybe it's him because of the position. I wouldn't build a team around 1 pitcher, I'd rather have a good 5 man rotation as opposed to 1 Uber-Elite pitcher.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 05, 2015 1:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mike Trout easily. I still think he is considerably bettwer than Harper even tho, Harper has better numbers so far.
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I'd take one of the two youngsters. Don't think Trout can exceed his contract by more than Correa/Bryant who will be essentially free for the first four years of their contracts, and would also have an additional year of service time (7 total years). As far as a single asset goes, I'd probably take Correa and hold him out til 12-15? days into next year. That way I get his age 21-28 seasons as opposed to 20-27.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 05, 2015 1:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Josh Donaldson with 4 more years of arbitration eligibility and club control is a very nice contract considering production.

Still not Trout or Harper tho
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 05, 2015 2:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Goldy's remaining salary:

2015 - 3.1m
2016 - 5.8m
2017 - 8.8m
2018 - 11.1m
2019 - 14.5m (team option)

1. How is his agent still employed?
2. Who will make more thru 2019; Goldy or Harper (still picking Harper but curious of his upcoming salary #'s).
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 05, 2015 2:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

DirtyDez wrote:
Goldy's remaining salary:

2015 - 3.1m
2016 - 5.8m
2017 - 8.8m
2018 - 11.1m
2019 - 14.5m (team option)

1. How is his agent still employed?
2. Who will make more thru 2019; Goldy or Harper (still picking Harper but curious of his upcoming salary #'s).


Good point, but Goldy is 27 and those are his 27-31 season's (Which are a players 'Prime)', but if I was starting a team I would want one of the 22-23 year olds who are already on Goldy's level. Love Goldschmidt though.
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BillsGuy82 wrote:
Mike Trout easily. I still think he is considerably bettwer than Harper even tho, Harper has better numbers so far.


Trout is considerably better than the pre-2015 Harper, but the 2015 Harper has been on a level, even Trout, hasn't matched.
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Mr. bDoDDleS wrote:
BillsGuy82 wrote:
Mike Trout easily. I still think he is considerably bettwer than Harper even tho, Harper has better numbers so far.


Trout is considerably better than the pre-2015 Harper, but the 2015 Harper has been on a level, even Trout, hasn't matched.


I think Trout in 2012 was probably about as good as Harper has been this season.
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mission27 wrote:
Mr. bDoDDleS wrote:
BillsGuy82 wrote:
Mike Trout easily. I still think he is considerably bettwer than Harper even tho, Harper has better numbers so far.


Trout is considerably better than the pre-2015 Harper, but the 2015 Harper has been on a level, even Trout, hasn't matched.


I think Trout in 2012 was probably about as good as Harper has been this season.


Maybe if you factor in defense, but offensively it's not even close.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 05, 2015 2:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Let's see if Harper reaches 10 WAR this season tbh.
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Let's see if Harper reaches 10 WAR this season tbh.


Harper doesn't have the baserunning value or defensive value Trout had in his 10 WAR season's.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 05, 2015 3:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Trout without blinking.

And this is coming from a dude that idolizes Bryce.
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Mr. bDoDDleS wrote:
mission27 wrote:
Mr. bDoDDleS wrote:
BillsGuy82 wrote:
Mike Trout easily. I still think he is considerably bettwer than Harper even tho, Harper has better numbers so far.


Trout is considerably better than the pre-2015 Harper, but the 2015 Harper has been on a level, even Trout, hasn't matched.


I think Trout in 2012 was probably about as good as Harper has been this season.


Maybe if you factor in defense, but offensively it's not even close.


Well yeah. Of course. But that stuff counts too.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 05, 2015 4:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mr. bDoDDleS wrote:
NewAge wrote:
Let's see if Harper reaches 10 WAR this season tbh.


Harper doesn't have the baserunning value or defensive value Trout had in his 10 WAR season's.


Pep, not everything is fantasy baseball..

Fantasy Harper

Reality Trout

Edwin Encarnacion had that ridiculous May last season similar.
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