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| Pipes wrote: | Did anyone really think the Pats were NOT going to be fired up to play the Steelers regardless of what happened this week?
Also, I mean to offend as little as possible with this statement, but - is this really a group of Steelers fans lamenting the fact that these "good" teams are going to be "mad" and "beat up" on the poor little Steelers? Seriously?
Next week the Steelers may win. They also may not win. Either way, it will be two of the NFL's marquee franchises going toe to toe to take each other's best shots. The results will occur on their own merits... not because the BROWNS woke up some mythical football beast that we stand no chance against.
As penance you all must now go watch Jack Lambert / Greg Lloyd / James Harrison videos for 1 hour. Let me know when you are done. |
Well said.
I don't think the outcomes of either the Browns or the Bengals game has any bearing on the outcome vs. the Pats.
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| Pipes wrote: | Did anyone really think the Pats were NOT going to be fired up to play the Steelers regardless of what happened this week?
Also, I mean to offend as little as possible with this statement, but - is this really a group of Steelers fans lamenting the fact that these "good" teams are going to be "mad" and "beat up" on the poor little Steelers? Seriously?
Next week the Steelers may win. They also may not win. Either way, it will be two of the NFL's marquee franchises going toe to toe to take each other's best shots. The results will occur on their own merits... not because the BROWNS woke up some mythical football beast that we stand no chance against.
As penance you all must now go watch Jack Lambert / Greg Lloyd / James Harrison videos for 1 hour. Let me know when you are done. |
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| treat88 wrote: | | Pipes wrote: | Did anyone really think the Pats were NOT going to be fired up to play the Steelers regardless of what happened this week?
Also, I mean to offend as little as possible with this statement, but - is this really a group of Steelers fans lamenting the fact that these "good" teams are going to be "mad" and "beat up" on the poor little Steelers? Seriously?
Next week the Steelers may win. They also may not win. Either way, it will be two of the NFL's marquee franchises going toe to toe to take each other's best shots. The results will occur on their own merits... not because the BROWNS woke up some mythical football beast that we stand no chance against.
As penance you all must now go watch Jack Lambert / Greg Lloyd / James Harrison videos for 1 hour. Let me know when you are done. |
Well said.
I don't think the outcomes of either the Browns or the Bengals game has any bearing on the outcome vs. the Pats. |
I just posted a 6 paragraph response only to hit the damn submit button followed by a "page could not be displayed" so I'll just summarize it up:
1. Yes, it does affect teams to lose to opponents and play better the following week. Look at the last loss the Pats had before their 21 game winning streak: the 5-11 Redskins.
2. Nobody thinks the Patriots are a slumbering beast, but that they've lost back to back games twice in 8 years is nothing to laugh at.
3. I think this will be a defining game for both of these teams. If the Patriots win in a close one including a last-minute defensive stand or last-minute drive, I see them making it to the AFCCG.
4. If the Steelers blow the Patriots out, I see them taking their 7th lombardi this year, which, at the very least, doesn't sound as catchy as "Sixburgh" |
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greene91fan
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| Comeback_Kid wrote: | | treat88 wrote: | | Pipes wrote: | Did anyone really think the Pats were NOT going to be fired up to play the Steelers regardless of what happened this week?
Also, I mean to offend as little as possible with this statement, but - is this really a group of Steelers fans lamenting the fact that these "good" teams are going to be "mad" and "beat up" on the poor little Steelers? Seriously?
Next week the Steelers may win. They also may not win. Either way, it will be two of the NFL's marquee franchises going toe to toe to take each other's best shots. The results will occur on their own merits... not because the BROWNS woke up some mythical football beast that we stand no chance against.
As penance you all must now go watch Jack Lambert / Greg Lloyd / James Harrison videos for 1 hour. Let me know when you are done. |
Well said.
I don't think the outcomes of either the Browns or the Bengals game has any bearing on the outcome vs. the Pats. |
I just posted a 6 paragraph response only to hit the damn submit button followed by a "page could not be displayed" so I'll just summarize it up:
1. Yes, it does affect teams to lose to opponents and play better the following week. Look at the last loss the Pats had before their 21 game winning streak: the 5-11 Redskins.
2. Nobody thinks the Patriots are a slumbering beast, but that they've lost back to back games twice in 8 years is nothing to laugh at.
3. I think this will be a defining game for both of these teams. If the Patriots win in a close one including a last-minute defensive stand or last-minute drive, I see them making it to the AFCCG.
4. If the Steelers blow the Patriots out, I see them taking their 7th lombardi this year, which, at the very least, doesn't sound as catchy as "Sixburgh" |
While I do agree with some of what you said, I don't hold the Patriots game in as high a regard. NE isn't the best team in the conference, at this point I don't think there is a clear-cut "best", so saying if we beat the Pats we're bringing home #7 is a bit far-fetched.
No doubt about it, they are well coached; but by no means whatsoever are they the best team in the conference.
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DwarfToss
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1. Yes, it does affect teams to lose to opponents and play better the following week. Look at the last loss the Pats had before their 21 game winning streak: the 5-11 Redskins.
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Are you positing that they were so mad they lost to Washington that it fueled 21 straight wins? Seriously?
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2. Nobody thinks the Patriots are a slumbering beast, but that they've lost back to back games twice in 8 years is nothing to laugh at.
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They're a great organization with a future HOF QB, and they're going to be tough to beat. Let's make it three times they lose back to back!
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3. I think this will be a defining game for both of these teams. If the Patriots win in a close one including a last-minute defensive stand or last-minute drive, I see them making it to the AFCCG. |
I don't know...way too much football to be played. They beat us in Pittsburgh in 2005 and we all know how that year ended up. Once the playoffs start, the hot, healthy teams have the advantage. I don't see anyone carrying over an early November win to January.
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4. If the Steelers blow the Patriots out, I see them taking their 7th lombardi this year, which, at the very least, doesn't sound as catchy as "Sixburgh" |
I hope you're right, but anything can happen the rest of the way. We blew out NE and Philly back to back in 2004 around this time of year and didn't even reach the Super Bowl.
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| DwarfToss wrote: | | Comeback_Kid wrote: |
1. Yes, it does affect teams to lose to opponents and play better the following week. Look at the last loss the Pats had before their 21 game winning streak: the 5-11 Redskins.
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Are you positing that they were so mad they lost to Washington that it fueled 21 straight wins? Seriously?
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2. Nobody thinks the Patriots are a slumbering beast, but that they've lost back to back games twice in 8 years is nothing to laugh at.
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They're a great organization with a future HOF QB, and they're going to be tough to beat. Let's make it three times they lose back to back!
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3. I think this will be a defining game for both of these teams. If the Patriots win in a close one including a last-minute defensive stand or last-minute drive, I see them making it to the AFCCG. |
I don't know...way too much football to be played. They beat us in Pittsburgh in 2005 and we all know how that year ended up. Once the playoffs start, the hot, healthy teams have the advantage. I don't see anyone carrying over an early November win to January.
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4. If the Steelers blow the Patriots out, I see them taking their 7th lombardi this year, which, at the very least, doesn't sound as catchy as "Sixburgh" |
I hope you're right, but anything can happen the rest of the way. We blew out NE and Philly back to back in 2004 around this time of year and didn't even reach the Super Bowl. |
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I was thinking 4 and typed 7.
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| greene91fan wrote: | | Comeback_Kid wrote: | | treat88 wrote: | | Pipes wrote: | Did anyone really think the Pats were NOT going to be fired up to play the Steelers regardless of what happened this week?
Also, I mean to offend as little as possible with this statement, but - is this really a group of Steelers fans lamenting the fact that these "good" teams are going to be "mad" and "beat up" on the poor little Steelers? Seriously?
Next week the Steelers may win. They also may not win. Either way, it will be two of the NFL's marquee franchises going toe to toe to take each other's best shots. The results will occur on their own merits... not because the BROWNS woke up some mythical football beast that we stand no chance against.
As penance you all must now go watch Jack Lambert / Greg Lloyd / James Harrison videos for 1 hour. Let me know when you are done. |
Well said.
I don't think the outcomes of either the Browns or the Bengals game has any bearing on the outcome vs. the Pats. |
I just posted a 6 paragraph response only to hit the damn submit button followed by a "page could not be displayed" so I'll just summarize it up:
1. Yes, it does affect teams to lose to opponents and play better the following week. Look at the last loss the Pats had before their 21 game winning streak: the 5-11 Redskins.
2. Nobody thinks the Patriots are a slumbering beast, but that they've lost back to back games twice in 8 years is nothing to laugh at.
3. I think this will be a defining game for both of these teams. If the Patriots win in a close one including a last-minute defensive stand or last-minute drive, I see them making it to the AFCCG.
4. If the Steelers blow the Patriots out, I see them taking their 7th lombardi this year, which, at the very least, doesn't sound as catchy as "Sixburgh" |
While I do agree with some of what you said, I don't hold the Patriots game in as high a regard. NE isn't the best team in the conference, at this point I don't think there is a clear-cut "best", so saying if we beat the Pats we're bringing home #7 is a bit far-fetched.No doubt about it, they are well coached; but by no means whatsoever are they the best team in the conference. |
Not just beat them, but completely dismember them and devour their suls for 60 minutes. I think that will convince me of Pittsburgh this year. |
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Comeback_Kid
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| DwarfToss wrote: | | Comeback_Kid wrote: |
1. Yes, it does affect teams to lose to opponents and play better the following week. Look at the last loss the Pats had before their 21 game winning streak: the 5-11 Redskins.
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Are you positing that they were so mad they lost to Washington that it fueled 21 straight wins? Seriously?
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2. Nobody thinks the Patriots are a slumbering beast, but that they've lost back to back games twice in 8 years is nothing to laugh at.
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They're a great organization with a future HOF QB, and they're going to be tough to beat. Let's make it three times they lose back to back!
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3. I think this will be a defining game for both of these teams. If the Patriots win in a close one including a last-minute defensive stand or last-minute drive, I see them making it to the AFCCG. |
I don't know...way too much football to be played. They beat us in Pittsburgh in 2005 and we all know how that year ended up. Once the playoffs start, the hot, healthy teams have the advantage. I don't see anyone carrying over an early November win to January.
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4. If the Steelers blow the Patriots out, I see them taking their 7th lombardi this year, which, at the very least, doesn't sound as catchy as "Sixburgh" |
I hope you're right, but anything can happen the rest of the way. We blew out NE and Philly back to back in 2004 around this time of year and didn't even reach the Super Bowl. |
1. No, I'm just speaking from a competitor's point of view. I'm not sure if you've ever been in the position of losing, but when you are a team that overlooks weak teams and lose BIG TIME to them after feeling so confident of yourself, it DOES light a fire, and it DOES carry over into the rest of the season. There are plenty of teams who went on to win Super Bowls or made deep playoff runs who got blown out by teams who are picking in the top 10 of the drat.
The reason I make such a big deal out of this game for the Patriots is that it's against the toughest team they'll face all year in the toughest place. Their weakness has been closing out games and closing them out on the road. That's why I think this game will be so defining for them: when facing teams of the caliber that they'll face in the playoffs, CAN they go into hostile environment, CAN they man up in the fourth quarter, and CAN they do what it takes to win the game.
As far as the Steelers, I see it merely as playoff positioning. If they win this one, and handily, not only will they (in my opinion) be hosting the AFC playoffs, but they will be very difficult to beat. New England 2010 isn't New England 2007, but this is not a cupcake team that you'll be able to roll over. If you blow them out the way Cleveland did without the self-inflicted wounds the Pats had in Cleveland, I sadly believe this is their year. |
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| Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2010 4:33 pm Post subject: |
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| Comeback_Kid wrote: | | greene91fan wrote: | | Comeback_Kid wrote: | | treat88 wrote: | | Pipes wrote: | Did anyone really think the Pats were NOT going to be fired up to play the Steelers regardless of what happened this week?
Also, I mean to offend as little as possible with this statement, but - is this really a group of Steelers fans lamenting the fact that these "good" teams are going to be "mad" and "beat up" on the poor little Steelers? Seriously?
Next week the Steelers may win. They also may not win. Either way, it will be two of the NFL's marquee franchises going toe to toe to take each other's best shots. The results will occur on their own merits... not because the BROWNS woke up some mythical football beast that we stand no chance against.
As penance you all must now go watch Jack Lambert / Greg Lloyd / James Harrison videos for 1 hour. Let me know when you are done. |
Well said.
I don't think the outcomes of either the Browns or the Bengals game has any bearing on the outcome vs. the Pats. |
I just posted a 6 paragraph response only to hit the damn submit button followed by a "page could not be displayed" so I'll just summarize it up:
1. Yes, it does affect teams to lose to opponents and play better the following week. Look at the last loss the Pats had before their 21 game winning streak: the 5-11 Redskins.
2. Nobody thinks the Patriots are a slumbering beast, but that they've lost back to back games twice in 8 years is nothing to laugh at.
3. I think this will be a defining game for both of these teams. If the Patriots win in a close one including a last-minute defensive stand or last-minute drive, I see them making it to the AFCCG.
4. If the Steelers blow the Patriots out, I see them taking their 7th lombardi this year, which, at the very least, doesn't sound as catchy as "Sixburgh" |
While I do agree with some of what you said, I don't hold the Patriots game in as high a regard. NE isn't the best team in the conference, at this point I don't think there is a clear-cut "best", so saying if we beat the Pats we're bringing home #7 is a bit far-fetched.No doubt about it, they are well coached; but by no means whatsoever are they the best team in the conference. |
Not just beat them, but completely dismember them and devour their suls for 60 minutes. I think that will convince me of Pittsburgh this year. |
Again it still doesn't jive in my book. There is not even a clear #1 team in the NFL let alone the AFC. So by "dismembering" them what have we proven?
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Pats beat us in 2005 and all through this decade by cheating....
they weren't penalized near enough for it
we would have a couple of more Lombardi's if they hadn't - enough said
I hate Bellicheat and all the Chowderheads
Wow...that was cathartic
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| DwarfToss wrote: | I was thinking 4 and typed 7.
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| Gunny Highway wrote: | Pats beat us in 2005 and all through this decade by cheating....
they weren't penalized near enough for it
we would have a couple of more Lombardi's if they hadn't - enough said
I hate Bellicheat and all the Chowderheads
Wow...that was cathartic |
Oh boo freaking hoo, the signals would have been stolen regardless of cameras. The only cheating the Patriots did is make it more convenient to steal the signals by using cameras. So no, you wouldn't have any more Lombardis because the result would have been the same. If it makes you sleep at night though I won't stop you. |
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| Gunny Highway wrote: | Pats beat us in 2005 and all through this decade by cheating....
they weren't penalized near enough for it
we would have a couple of more Lombardi's if they hadn't - enough said
I hate Bellicheat and all the Chowderheads
Wow...that was cathartic |
Do you mean in Ben's rookie season?
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| stillersenat wrote: | | Gunny Highway wrote: | Pats beat us in 2005 and all through this decade by cheating....
they weren't penalized near enough for it
we would have a couple of more Lombardi's if they hadn't - enough said
I hate Bellicheat and all the Chowderheads
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Do you mean in Ben's rookie season? |
No he means 2005. Remember the issue where the clock reset by 51 seconds in the second half and they won with under a minute to go?
It was the 3rd game of the season. Your thinking of the AFC title game.
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