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PostPosted: Fri Jul 08, 2011 11:13 am    Post subject: The Cigar Thread Reply with quote

Cigars are classy. We here at FF are classy. Therefore, this thread is necessary and a perfect match.


Cigars are great to smoke if you want to just relax after a long day of work, during a game of golf, or if you just want to dress up in a suit and smoke a big stogie out on your back porch to feel like a boss hog.

I'm a relatively new cigar smoker, so my knowledge isn't that great, so hopefully I can learn a few things from this thread.

Lately I've been smoking some Avos and then just last night I had a Kristoff which was probably the best cigar I have ever had so far.

This is the same type of Kristoff I had last night:


So for all the cigar aficionados out there on FF - discuss!





...oh, and Swisher sweets and other girlie things like them are not cigars. Get that crap outta here.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 08, 2011 11:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm a huge fan of cigars. Me and my best friend will have one occasionally. I've had a monte cristo for about 8 bucks, and usually I get a Tatauje. They have really good one from 4 bucks all the way to 12 (which is the most I've every spent on 1 cigar. Eloggio isn't a bad brand either
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 08, 2011 11:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

CAO Maduro is my favorite Cigar. Super dark leaves, so it's a bit sweeter and smoother.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 08, 2011 11:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've just started getting into cigars too and the one the I originally tried was the Baccarat brand. It's actually really good.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 08, 2011 11:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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CAO Maduro is my favorite Cigar. Super dark leaves, so it's a bit sweeter and smoother.


I've been wanting to try CAO for a while now and haven't had the chance.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 08, 2011 11:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Because it ends up costing a good amount, I usually stick with the same one or two cigars, and don't really branch out unless someone has one to give me.

My absolute favorite cigar is a Monte Cristo Robusto with the brown label is my favorite. They usually cost around $9-10 a piece, so it's a special occasion type of thing.

If it's only a sort of special occasion, I'll drop down to the Makers Mark cigar. The whiskey is my favorite thing to drink, and I've found that pairing them together elevates the flavor of both over their individual use. I swear I can actually taste the apple flavor from the applewood barrels when I take a sip, and then take a puff.

Some good cheaper alternatives are the Macanudo Ascot tins. I prefer a milder cigar, so I go with the Cafe over the robust. One tin with 10 cigars is about $17, and for my taste is about the perfect size cigar to have more then just every once in a while.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 08, 2011 11:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I'm a huge fan of cigars. Me and my best friend will have one occasionally. I've had a monte cristo for about 8 bucks, and usually I get a Tatauje. They have really good one from 4 bucks all the way to 12 (which is the most I've every spent on 1 cigar. Eloggio isn't a bad brand either


Nothing beats going out onto the deck, after dark when it's nice and peaceful and lighting one up.



I'll usually get a box of these Macanudo's since I usually prefer more of a mild taste. However, I will go with other types when the mood strikes.

When I want a cheaper one, I'll usually get the JRs Alternative (knockoff) which isn't that bad for an under $2 brand. I'll usually get them when I knockoff a cigar everyother night during the spring/summer/fall....$8-9 cigars would be just too much dough.

I prefer the 6-6.5 size by a 45-49 ring. Thin cigars aren't my style and I'm not that big into a Churchill size cigar.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 08, 2011 1:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't smoke often, maybe a cigar a week if that. My favorites are Perdomos. I also smoke Macanudos, AF Flor Finas, Cain, but mostly Perdomos.

For cheap, good cigars I usually go with Casino Gold. Around here I can get those for ~$2.00 a piece. Great smoke for that price in my opinion.

Glass of red wine and a cigar is a great way to end the day.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 08, 2011 1:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There's Cohiba, and then there's nothing.



I remember way back when me and a buddy split a $120 Cigar.

Worth it.

I've never tried the Dominican brand Cohibas but I like to think the original Cubans are better though maybe they're the same and the Dominican brand is just a loophole to get them into the U.S.
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There's Cohiba, and then there's nothing.



I remember way back when me and a buddy split a $120 Cigar.

Worth it.

I've never tried the Dominican brand Cohibas but I like to think the original Cubans are better though maybe they're the same and the Dominican brand is just a loophole to get them into the U.S.


I almost went with a Cohiba last night. It was between that, the Kristoff, and a Guerka.

I'm going to the Caribbean in a few weeks, can't wait to get some Cubans there.
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I've never tried the Dominican brand Cohibas but I like to think the original Cubans are better though maybe they're the same and the Dominican brand is just a loophole to get them into the U.S.

I've never had a Cuban so I can't speak from direct experience, but I know those who have, and in general they either can't tell a difference, or actually prefer the DR ones. My understanding is that the ones made in the DR are grown from plants that were brought over from Cuba, so the only difference in taste or quality would be from the difference in soil, and maybe slight difference in climate. Being that they're both Carribean islands, I could see those two factors being rather minimal.
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x0x wrote:
I've never tried the Dominican brand Cohibas but I like to think the original Cubans are better though maybe they're the same and the Dominican brand is just a loophole to get them into the U.S.

I've never had a Cuban so I can't speak from direct experience, but I know those who have, and in general they either can't tell a difference, or actually prefer the DR ones. My understanding is that the ones made in the DR are grown from plants that were brought over from Cuba, so the only difference in taste or quality would be from the difference in soil, and maybe slight difference in climate. Being that they're both Carribean islands, I could see those two factors being rather minimal.


For sure. But I can certainly tell a Cohiba from any other cigar, I've given my friends the opportunity to test me out, I passed all the tests.

The thing I find with Cohibas is they're sooooooooooooo goddamn smooth and even burning them way down doesn't give you that rough burn most other cigars do.

Also, you live in Texas and you haven't been to Mexico?
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 08, 2011 2:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a Cohiba guillotine cutter. Works wonderfully, best I've had.
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bigschmadt00 wrote:
I've never had a Cuban so I can't speak from direct experience, but I know those who have, and in general they either can't tell a difference, or actually prefer the DR ones. My understanding is that the ones made in the DR are grown from plants that were brought over from Cuba, so the only difference in taste or quality would be from the difference in soil, and maybe slight difference in climate. Being that they're both Carribean islands, I could see those two factors being rather minimal.


There's so much more involved than just the seeds. First off, there are a lot of different types of seeds and you don't know which ones were brought over. Second, the amount of moisture & the form it comes in (mist, light rain, heavy rains etc) also plays a big factor. Also, the ave temp also plays a part in it (islands have different breezes etc that effects temp). The amount of direct sunlight (vs. cloud covers) also effects the tobacco.
Soil compound; even in Cuba there's only a few really good places to grow it and tobacco grown from the other side of the island isn't that good (tourist area's in other countries import them and sell these "Cubans" to American tourist, who will pay top dollar but aren't getting the best "Cuban" cigars). Lastly, the Blending from different Tobacco plants give different Cigars different tastes and effects how they burn.

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For sure. But I can certainly tell a Cohiba from any other cigar, I've given my friends the opportunity to test me out, I passed all the tests.

The thing I find with Cohibas is they're sooooooooooooo goddamn smooth and even burning them way down doesn't give you that rough burn most other cigars do.


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Cohibas are made from the best tobacco plants in Cuba and the quality in the selection process of the leaves are what sets them apart, along with their secret blending formula.

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I'm going to the Caribbean in a few weeks, can't wait to get some Cubans there.

One thing I've always done when I've gone to the Islands is to know the my hotel bartender well right off the bat. Good tips, b.s.ing, etc By the 2nd day, we're usually getting the best tips from them on where to eat (away from the "tourist" areas) and even the places to go for the best cigars (I can tell the difference too).
Sometimes they'll either pick them up for us or they'll call ahead to the shop owner to give us the good stuff (instead of the crappy "Cubans"). Granted, a lot of times some workers get "kickbacks" for sending people to certain places, but some people like the bartenders won't give you bad advice on the 2nd day because the tips they'll get (or not get) from you is greater than the "kickback" from the cigar place...plus they won't want to mess anything up with their job if you complain to the hotel that they recommended you to go someplace where you got ripped off; they'd rather have you go to the manager and say "so and so hooked you up with a great place".
(but be careful if you say something to the manager; some hotels sell the good Cubans with a nice markup and don't like it when the bartenders send you someplace else where you can get top Cubans for a lot less then they are selling them for).
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 08, 2011 3:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Althought I"m contributing anything useful (as usual) I've always wanted to be a guy who smokes cigars but I'm so against cigarettes, it'd be too hypocritical.
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