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PostPosted: Sat Nov 22, 2014 4:36 am    Post subject: Jrry32 Bradford's Back Mock Off-Season Reply with quote

I have been going back and forth a lot on the QB position in recent days. As it stands now, this is what I'm thinking.
Restructure
Sam Bradford - 2 years $16 million($13 million guaranteed...Full $8 million first year base and $5 million of the second year base)
Total Cap Savings: $4.9 million
Total Cap Room: $9.4 million

Released
Jake Long - $8 million in cap savings
Kendall Langford - $6 million in cap savings
Scott Wells - $3.8 million in cap savings
Eugene Sims - $1.9 million in cap savings
Isaiah Pead - $900,000 in cap savings
Total Cap Savings: $20.6 million
Total Cap Room: $30 million

Re-signed Players
Joe Barksdale - 5 years $30 million($5 million first year)
Kenny Britt - 1 year $4 million
Lance Kendricks - 2 years $6 million($3 million first year)
Shaun Hill - 1 year $2 million
Alex Carrington - 1 year $1.5 million
Cory Harkey - ERFA($645,000)
Tim Barnes - RFA($1.4 million - Original round)
Johnny Hekker - RFA($1.4 million - Original Round)
Rodney McLeod - RFA($1.4 million - Original Round)
Total Cap Spent: $18.3 million
Total Cap Room: $10.7 million

Free Agency
C.J. Mosley DT
1 year $1.7 million

Rotational DT known for his run stuffing ability to replace Kendall Langford.

Trades
St. Louis trades HB Zac Stacy
New England trades 6th round pick

St. Louis trades Pick #14
Philadelphia trades Pick #26, 2nd, and 4th

We trade Stacy because we have too much talent at HB while New England needs a power HB with Ridley hitting FA. Plus, Vereen is also set to hit FA.

Philadelphia moves up for a pass rusher like Shane Ray or Dante Fowler Jr.

NFL Draft
Round 1 Pick #26 - Todd Gurley HB Georgia
Analysis: I know that some will object to this pick because he's a HB or because of the injury. However, my philosophy has always been to accrue as much talent as possible. I like Tre Mason but he's not Adrian Peterson. We can pair him with another talented HB and should. Like I said about Aaron Donald last year when the argument was that we don't need another DL, an elite talent is an elite talent. You don't pass on a guy like that because you don't need him. We're not desperate anymore. We can make luxury picks. As far as the injury is concerned, it's a risk...yes. But if it hadn't happened, Gurley would go in the top 5-10 picks and was arguably a top 3 talent in this class. I think the juice is worth the squeeze. Here are a few things worth noting...Gurley is 6'1" 230 with 4.4 speed, great hands out of the back-field, and has 3900 yards and 42 TDs from scrimmage in 30 games(mainly against the SEC). A couple other big things...he's averaging 6.4 yards per carry for his career and 38.4 yards per kickoff return. Bennie Cunningham has done a great job on KRs but it certainly doesn't hurt that Gurley has been incredible when returning KOs in college. One final stat...the Rams are 6th in the NFL in rushing attempts per game in the first half...Fisher and Schotty want to run the ball.

Round 2 Pick #14 - A.J. Cann OG South Carolina
Analysis: If you think the big boys on the OL are as important as I do, this is a pick that'll knock your socks off. The only reason why Cann slips out of the first round is that he's a pure OG that lacks great athleticism. Cann's doesn't have outstanding feet or lateral movement. However, that does not hinder him because he's so adept at identifying targets on the move, reading the defense, and getting a hat on his man. He's extremely technically sound with the strength and leg drive to move defenders off the LOS and put them on their back. Cann also is one of the best I've seen at maintaining leverage as an OL despite his 6'3"/6'4" size. He shoots off the ball low and gets underneath defenders. When pass blocking, he sits back in his stance comfortably with easy bend at the knees and hips. He's very difficult to move with a bull-rush and is very active and aggressive with his hands. He needs to get quicker off the LOS and has some issues with quick DTs that get skinny when pass blocking. He also needs to keep his head up as he gets a tad over-aggressive as a pass blocker. Still, this guy is a plug and play NFL LG and a great overall prospect. He demolishes people in the running game.

Round 2 Pick #26 - Cameron Erving C/OG/OT Florida State
Analysis: If necessary, I'd be willing to trade back up in the mid 2nd to take Erving. I had issues with him at LT this year and last. However, FSU moved him to Center against Miami and he jumped back onto my board. He's an athletic kid with good size at 6'5" 310 but had some issues with his kick-slide and punch timing on the edge. He's not as technically sound as he could be and he's going to need time to develop at Center. However, he's as athletically gifted at they come at the Center position with the versatility to play any spot on the OL and the ability to be as good as he wants to be if coached up well.

Round 3 Pick #14 - Eric Kendricks ILB UCLA
Analysis: Kendricks is a tad undersized at 6'0" 230 but he's an active player with great instincts that flies to the ball. The reasons why he won't go higher are because he's not an elite athlete, is on the smaller side, and isn't an elite coverage LB. He definitely has the ability to be solid in coverage in the NFL but he's not Ogletree. Still, he's a highly intelligent kid that can stop the run and should be able to develop behind Laurinaitis as his heir apparent. Might even beat out Dunbar for the SLB job in the mean time.

Round 4 Pick #14 - Vince Mayle WR Washington State
Analysis: Some of you might not like us taking another developmental WR but as I said with the Duke Johnson pick, it's all about collecting talent. Here's the story on Vince Mayle...he played HB in high school but decided to play basketball at the JUCO level instead of football. Returned to football in 2012 at the JUCO level before transferring to WSU before the 2013 season. In 2013, the 6'3" 240 pound Mayle played TE for WSU and caught 7 TDs in his first year out of JUCO. This year, WSU asked him to drop 20 pounds and play WR for them. He did and has responded with 86 catches, 1152 yards, and 9 TDs on the year. Mayle is just starting to come into his own and I want to see what he can develop into. I think like with Quick, Kenny Britt can help teach this big WR how to impose his will on the field physically. Typically, I stay away from players who have had some drop issues like Mayle has this year but I'm willing to take the chance here. I think his athletic upside makes him well worth the pick in the 3rd/4th round. We're talking about a 6'3" 220 pound WR that looks like he glides on the field due to his light, quick feet(basketball) and his impressive top-end speed.


Round 5 Pick #14 - Owamagbe Odighizuwa DE UCLA
Analysis: In case you couldn't tell, I really like Odighizuwa as a late round developmental DE for us. He reminds me a lot of William Hayes. He has a similar build at 6'3" 270 and is known as a guy who will do the dirty work at UCLA. He's underrated in my book because he missed all of 2013 with a hip injury. He's explosive off the line with active, powerful hands and is capable of dipping around the edge or bulling the OT back into the QB's face. He does not have much in terms of pass rush moves but Coach Waufle should be able to help him out with that. He has the physical tools and a motor that runs hot. I think he'll develop into a very good #3 DE for this team given time.

Round 6 Pick #30 - John Feliciano OG/RT Miami
Analysis: Adding depth on the OL. Feliciano has played both LG and RT during his career at Miami. He's a strong kid with size(6'4" 315) who lacks athleticism and fluidity. Solid backup type because he can generate movement in the run game and handles his man well when he latches on.

Round 7 Pick #14 - Blake Sims QB Alabama
Analysis: Taking a shot on a developmental backup QB here. Sims is still learning the nuances of the QB position as a first year starter and there's no guarantee that he'll ever get them down but he has a NFL caliber arm, throws a good deep ball, has a quick release with the ability to change platforms, and is the same caliber of athlete as Russell Wilson (but clearly not the same caliber of passer). Heck, he might even be faster than Wilson. He's on the short side at 6'0" 210 but with his athleticism, flashes of talent, and overall tools...why not? My big concerns right now are that he doesn't find his checkdowns effectively(locks onto deeper routes), will give away his intentions with his eyes which can lead to picks, short arms throws leading to inaccuracy, doesn't throw accurately on the run(due to mechanics), and he's short which will limit his ability to climb the ladder in the pocket. But it's a 7th rounder. Plus, Sims kind of reminds me of Seneca Wallace.

Starting Line-up
QB: Sam Bradford
HB: Tre Mason
FB: Cory Harkey
XWR: Brian Quick
ZWR: Kenny Britt
SLWR: Tavon Austin
TE: Jared Cook
LT: Greg Robinson
LG: A.J. Cann
C: Barrett Jones
RG: Rodger Saffold
RT: Joe Barksdale

LDE: Chris Long
LDT: Aaron Donald
RDT: Michael Brockers
RDE: Robert Quinn
WLB: Alec Ogletree
MLB: James Laurinaitis
SPUR: Mark Barron
LCB: Trumaine Johnson
RCB: Janoris Jenkins
NCB: E.J. Gaines
FS: LaMarcus Joyner
SS: T.J. McDonald

K: Greg Zuerlein
P: Johnny Hekker
LS: Jake McQuaide
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 22, 2014 5:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What's up Jrry, you know I'm a huge Bradford fan but right now I'm thinking swinging for the fence & go get Winston is the move. Gurley would be a huge investment but I wonder do Fisher & Snead have that kinda time to wait on Gurley. I also wouldn't mind Bradford back if we got Hundley who I think is the 2nd best QB prospect in the draft.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 22, 2014 5:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

U gotRAM right wrote:
What's up Jrry, you know I'm a huge Bradford fan but right now I'm thinking swinging for the fence & go get Winston is the move. Gurley would be a huge investment but I wonder do Fisher & Snead have that kinda time to wait on Gurley. I also wouldn't mind Bradford back if we got Hundley who I think is the 2nd best QB prospect in the draft.


If Winston falls, I'm all for him. But I'm not trading up for a QB.

I'm back and forth on Hundley. Have some major issues with his game.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 22, 2014 8:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

We can, and likely will get more than a depth DT in Free Agency.

With all your moves, we would be looking at that extra $30 mil in cap space vs this years Salary Cap, but next year it will be going up, the predictions were close to $140mil. That an extra $7mil, that can more than cover the draft for us.
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I would completely hate this type of offseason if it happened.
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No, i can't see why we would draft a RB with our 1st pick...doesn't make sense....
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No, i can't see why we would draft a RB with our 1st pick...doesn't make sense....

Picking Donald wasn't a need just like picking Gurley wouldn't be either. The guy has AP type ability. The knee injury is what keeps me away from him in the first though.
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i'm a bradford fan, but to bank on him coming back to start after tearing his ACL twice in consecutive seasons is so dumb. bring him back on an incentive based deal as a backup? yeah, go for it, but no way in hell as a starter. that move would show just how dumb this front office/coaching staff is.

sam is made of glass, it's okay to move on from thinking he's your QB for the next decade.

no thanks to a RB coming off a torn ACL, very few come back just as strong or stronger like Peterson.
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i'm a bradford fan, but to bank on him coming back to start after tearing his ACL twice in consecutive seasons is so dumb. bring him back on an incentive based deal as a backup? yeah, go for it, but no way in hell as a starter. that move would show just how dumb this front office/coaching staff is.

sam is made of glass, it's okay to move on from thinking he's your QB for the next decade.

no thanks to a RB coming off a torn ACL, very few come back just as strong or stronger like Peterson.

What are your other options at QB?
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i'm a bradford fan, but to bank on him coming back to start after tearing his ACL twice in consecutive seasons is so dumb. bring him back on an incentive based deal as a backup? yeah, go for it, but no way in hell as a starter. that move would show just how dumb this front office/coaching staff is.

sam is made of glass, it's okay to move on from thinking he's your QB for the next decade.

no thanks to a RB coming off a torn ACL, very few come back just as strong or stronger like Peterson.

What are your other options at QB?


i'd rather draft a guy like hundley/cook in mid first round since fisher decides he wants to start winning now and push us out of the chance to get an elite QB.

like i said though, no problems with bringing sam back but on an incentive based contract, not $16M with $13M guaranteed. i'm okay with bringing hill back though on 1 year deal.
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No rookie qb leaving us to suffer again when Bradford gets injured? I would be miserable.
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Terrible.. We'll have to rely on our glass QB?
A rookie RB who'll most likely miss a few games?
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I like it because we still have Shaun Hill to lean on. I do not believe Bradford is done with the rams yet, i still think he can be a top qb in this league too. We give him one more year to prove himself, even if he goes down Shaun Hill stepping in wouldnt hurt our chances of being a playoff team.


Oh and if we are going to take a flyer on Blake Sims might as well bring in Lane Kiffin Wink
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 22, 2014 4:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Flounch wrote:
No, i can't see why we would draft a RB with our 1st pick...doesn't make sense....


We are #6 in the NFL in first half rushing carries. Fisher and Schotty want to be a run heavy offense. That's why you do it.

Plus, the stronger the running game, the less we have to rely on our QB.

HockeyManiac1 wrote:
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HockeyManiac1 wrote:
i'm a bradford fan, but to bank on him coming back to start after tearing his ACL twice in consecutive seasons is so dumb. bring him back on an incentive based deal as a backup? yeah, go for it, but no way in hell as a starter. that move would show just how dumb this front office/coaching staff is.

sam is made of glass, it's okay to move on from thinking he's your QB for the next decade.

no thanks to a RB coming off a torn ACL, very few come back just as strong or stronger like Peterson.

What are your other options at QB?


i'd rather draft a guy like hundley/cook in mid first round since fisher decides he wants to start winning now and push us out of the chance to get an elite QB.

like i said though, no problems with bringing sam back but on an incentive based contract, not $16M with $13M guaranteed. i'm okay with bringing hill back though on 1 year deal.


Bradford isn't going to sign an incentive based contract. You have to give to get. If you tell him that you want to pay him less and offer him no incentive to take less money, he's going to clearly say no.

And then what are you left with?

S-jax39 wrote:
No rookie qb leaving us to suffer again when Bradford gets injured? I would be miserable.


Would be more miserable if we spent a first round pick on a QB bust out of desperation for a QB rather than a talent like Gurley.

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Terrible.. We'll have to rely on our glass QB?
A rookie RB who'll most likely miss a few games?
Jrry Staph.


Yes. Because our other options suck. You can't take a QB to take a QB. Do you want Blaine Gabbert or Christian Ponder or Jake Locker?

Winston and Mariota are gone. Hundley is a really risky, iffy prospect. And I feel like I'm trying too hard to convince myself to like him.

The rest of the guys suck. Dak Prescott and Trevone Boykin are the only two options that I haven't really evaluated yet. But what I have seen of the two...they're inconsistent passers.
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tim199009 wrote:
I like it because we still have Shaun Hill to lean on. I do not believe Bradford is done with the rams yet, i still think he can be a top qb in this league too. We give him one more year to prove himself, even if he goes down Shaun Hill stepping in wouldnt hurt our chances of being a playoff team.


Oh and if we are going to take a flyer on Blake Sims might as well bring in Lane Kiffin Wink


Yea, I think people might need to come to terms that Bradford is likely our QB again next year.

They need to come to terms with this...if you think we're going to finish anywhere between 7-9 to 10-6...who will we be in position to draft at QB?

What free agent QBs are there to sign?

Unfortunately, Bradford is the best option in that situation. Unless you're sold on Hundley...which I am not at this point.
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