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PostPosted: Wed Aug 13, 2014 4:32 pm    Post subject: Torry Holt: Tavon Austin's been "quiet" Reply with quote

I read recently that GSOT wide receiver, Torry Holt saying that Tavon Austin's been really quiet in training camp as well as in the preseason opener. I've been a fan of Tavon Austin since he's been in high school, so I just wanted to hear from a couple of Rams fans your thoughts on Austin and how you think he might pan out. I'm hoping this guy does really well, because I was high on him in the draft and thought the Rams made a good decision.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 14, 2014 12:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

We know exactly what we knew about him when he was coming out of college. He's incredibly fast, and a threat to score from anywhere on the field on every touch. The thing we are not sure about, is whether he can handle a traditional role as a WR. Not all us are sure that we have an OC that has figured out how to use his talents.

We're glad to have him though.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 14, 2014 9:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't really buy anything Torry Holt sells now...

He told us back in May that Givens was bound to break out this year and that he looked more determined/focused/locked in/etc. than he'd seen from any Rams WR over the recent...

When camp rolls around he looks like he'll barely make the roster...
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 14, 2014 12:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kgarrett12486 wrote:
I don't really buy anything Torry Holt sells now...

He told us back in May that Givens was bound to break out this year and that he looked more determined/focused/locked in/etc. than he'd seen from any Rams WR over the recent...

When camp rolls around he looks like he'll barely make the roster...


Givens fall from grace has been a real head scratcher.
He was so dynamic his rookie year.. Guy was just a go route
WR.. A shame really.. As a Rams fan, I'm relying on Britt, stedman, Pettis and Cook.

Tavon and Quick have the best potential.. But I'm not
sure if they'll get there.. Tavon is explosive, but his lack
IQ is holding him back.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 15, 2014 12:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The J.R.S. wrote:
We know exactly what we knew about him when he was coming out of college. He's incredibly fast, and a threat to score from anywhere on the field on every touch. The thing we are not sure about, is whether he can handle a traditional role as a WR. Not all us are sure that we have an OC that has figured out how to use his talents.

We're glad to have him though.


Frankly, if Schott can't figure him out at WR...use him more at HB. With our OL, he could be deadly. And he'd be a real weapon out of the back-field.

But he's not hard to figure out at WR.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 16, 2014 10:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My own view of this is that TH was just remarking on things he saw Austin doing in camp practices. But, my intuition is that they won't be using Austin during the season the way they do in camp practices, and that at the same time they are not going to show those plays during camp. I think they will integrate Austin lots of different ways but that it will be gameplan specific, game by game, and not something an observer will see during the summer.

And besides, I have no problem with him being a combined yards weapon and not, strictly speaking, a receiver per se.

Last year he was clearly held back by rookie head-swimming syndrome. I don't think it had anything to do with Schott. There's 2 ways to approach that issue. McD just had rookies go out and do what he drew up, regardless. That led to 2 of the surest hands on the team--Kendricks and Pettis--being confused, overthinking rookies with the dropsies. (In fact, so much so, that to this day a few don't even realize Kendricks is surehanded. That's how strong an impression his rookie confusions left in some minds.) Or there's the Schott way, which is don't ask them to do it if they can't. If that's all true (as I think it is) then Schott will be using Austin in more ways this year.

I see over and over, people saying, Schott had to figure Austin out. I doubt that, personally. Well no wait. I am sure that's true to an extent, but not how the critics are presenting it--as something more than the ordinary. But in principle Schott would be no different in that regard than any other coordinator with a new, head-swimming player. If anything, Schott already had a near-Austin type in New York--Leon Washington. Washington was a back who returned kicks and caught passes, while Austin is a receiver who runs out of the backfield and returns kicks, so they are cousin species. Either way Washington was a multi-purpose weapons guy and heavier than Austin, but still there were similarities, and Schott found all sorts of ways to use Washington. So none of this was extremely new. So to me, it was never a problem of Schott figuring Austin out (that is more than the usual figuring a rookie out thing), it was more of a problem of yet another rookie (almost)receiver struggling SO Schott's solution was to limit what he did, at first. (Especially since Schott's offense depends a lot on sight adjustments, and most rookie skill players don't arrive in the NFL already capable of reading defenses well enough to be comfortable with that.)

Anyway the combined yards thing is fine with me. Even with rookie syndrome and 3 missed games, Austin had 1246 combined yards (or so...that's from memory), which was on pace for 1530 something.

And, I am more than okay with that.

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 16, 2014 12:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't expect him to be a typical wr, he's not that. He's a weapon, the colts game is exactly what I expect him to be as a player
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We spent a top 8 pick on a slot WR. Just not a smart decision, IMO. He's a good player, but we drafted him way too high. He's not THAT much better than Brandin Cooks who the Saints drafted much later in the 1st round a couple months ago.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 16, 2014 4:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

l3lind golfer wrote:
We spent a top 8 pick on a slot WR. Just not a smart decision, IMO. He's a good player, but we drafted him way too high. He's not THAT much better than Brandin Cooks who the Saints drafted much later in the 1st round a couple months ago.


Thats my only knock on drafting him. I thought we would get more value by drafting Hopkins and keeping that second but I think Austin will be fine this season.
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l3lind golfer wrote:
We spent a top 8 pick on a slot WR. Just not a smart decision, IMO. He's a good player, but we drafted him way too high. He's not THAT much better than Brandin Cooks who the Saints drafted much later in the 1st round a couple months ago.


In a different draft. The 2014 Draft was much stronger than the 2013 Draft.
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l3lind golfer wrote:
We spent a top 8 pick on a slot WR. Just not a smart decision, IMO. He's a good player, but we drafted him way too high. He's not THAT much better than Brandin Cooks who the Saints drafted much later in the 1st round a couple months ago.


In a different draft. The 2014 Draft was much stronger than the 2013 Draft.
Fair point. But Austin is still not a top 8 pick, IMO.
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l3lind golfer wrote:
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l3lind golfer wrote:
We spent a top 8 pick on a slot WR. Just not a smart decision, IMO. He's a good player, but we drafted him way too high. He's not THAT much better than Brandin Cooks who the Saints drafted much later in the 1st round a couple months ago.


In a different draft. The 2014 Draft was much stronger than the 2013 Draft.
Fair point. But Austin is still not a top 8 pick, IMO.


Well, actually, Austin was taken at #8 so...

And the reports were if the Rams didn't trade up, he was going at #9 so...
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Okay, and to me he was not worth the #8 overall pick.
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l3lind golfer wrote:
Okay, and to me he was not worth the #8 overall pick.



Don't argue it with him. For your sake. It will just get you a headache.
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l3lind golfer wrote:
Okay, and to me he was not worth the #8 overall pick.



Don't argue it with him. For your sake. It will just get you a headache.


I love Tavon.. But he needs to turn it up and
turn into Percy Harvin for us to have a chance,
Out this dreaded NFC West.. Even though BG is
crazy, he might be right...

As a top 10 pick you have to produce..
Wether that be in the run game, ST or receiving,
We need elite production to warrant that selection.

I believe in Tavon.. But he doesn't seem to have that
dog mentality as Steaman..

Just my take.. I loved the selection, But I can see where
BGs coming from.
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