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AntonioGates


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 18, 2010 4:24 pm    Post subject: Official Chargers War Room (Now offering a 3 day special!) Reply with quote



Welcome to the official 2010 Chargers War Room! This is where all Chargers discussion before, during, and after the draft will be held.

Chargers current picks:
Round 1, pick 12 (through MIA): Ryan Mathews, RB, Fresno State
Round 3, pick 79 (f/ SF) Donald Butler, ILB, Washington
Round 4, pick 110 (t/ MIA)
Round 5, pick 159
Round 5, pick 168 (compensatory)
Round 7, pick 235

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Schedule for this week:
Tonight: Rules for Draft contest. If anyone wants to make a prize sig something, it would be awesome.
Monday: Cluster of players Chargers might be interested it
Tuesday: My Mock first 40 picks
Wednesday: My 7 round Charger draft

Here's to a great draft week, 7 new Chargers, and remotes through your TVs.


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 18, 2010 11:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Contest rules:

For every round list 5 players that you think the Chargers are targeting. This covers trade backs and multiple pick rounds. Here is an example:

Round 1:
Russell Okung
Anthony Davis
CJ Spiller
Golden Tate
Kyle Wilson

Round 2:
Brandon LaFell
Everson Griffen
Brian Price
Rodger Saffold
Brandon Ghee

Round 3:
5 players

Round 4:
5 players

Round 5:
5 players

etc...

and then bold the one in each round you feel will be taken. This will be sort of your final mock.

You get 10 points (maximum) if the bolded player is selected in the correct round by us.
You get 5 points (maximum)if any of the 5 players is selected in the correct round by us.
You get 3 points if the bolded player is selected by us in a different round.
You get 2 points for every player on the list that is drafted by us in a different round.

So say you have Montario Hardesty as one of the players in the 4th.

If he is bolded and taken in the 4th, you get 10 points for the pick. If he is taken in the 6th, you get 3 points.

If he is not bolded, you get 5 points for taking him in the 4th, and 2 points if he is taken in the 2nd .

Hopefully it all makes sense. These are due before the draft starts. So no later than 4:30 PST on Thursday. You can edit your 'cluster' anytime between now and then.

Here are my first 3 round. I will post my other 4 rounds later:

Round 1:
Dan Williams
Ryan Mathews
Jahvid Best
Jared Odrick
Terrence Cody

Round 2:
Tyson Alualu
Linval Joseph
Chad Jones
Nate Allen
Toby Gerhart

Round 3:
Ben Tate
Al Woods
Montario Hardesty
Morgan Burnett
Kyle Calloway
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 19, 2010 1:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Round 1 -
Taylor Mays
Earl Thomas
Dan Williams
Sean Witherspoon
Terrance Cody

Round 2 -
Terrance Cody
Jahvid Best
Jerry Hughes
Everson Griffith
Ryan Matthews

Round 3 -
Myron Rolle
Ben Tate
Montario Hardesty
Linval Joesph
Cam Thomas

Round 4 -
Kevin Basped
Charles Scott
Anthony McCoy
Brandon Lang
Harry Coleman

Round 5 -
Mike Neal
Micah Johnson
Walter McFadden
Ed Wang
Stafon Johnson

Round 6 -
Joique Bell
Patrick Simonds
Freddie Harris
Ryan D'Imperio
Joe Webb

Round 7
Nic Richmond
Erik Cook
Cory Jackson
Kelton Tindal
Chris McCoy
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 19, 2010 6:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd just like to say I've fallen in love with SIZE this draft.

If we could get Mays, Cody, Joesph on D. Couldn't imagine what a team would do with 1500 lbs of Merriman/English, Martin, Cody, Joesph, Phillips bearing down on them every snap.

Perfect scenario for me is
1. Taylor Mays
2. Terrance Cody
3. Linval Joesph
4. Ben Tate
5. Kevin Basped
6. Joique Bell
7. Joe Webb
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 19, 2010 4:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I guess I'll take a crack at it.

1st: Terrance Cody, Ryan Mathews, Devin McCourty, Demaryus"BayBay" Thomas, Anthony Davis

2nd: Ben Tate, Tyson Alualu, Roger Saffold, Chad Jones, Jon Dwyer

3rd: Arthur Jones, Donald Butler, Montario Hardesty, Akwasi Owusu-Ansah, Cam Thomas

4th: TJ Ward, LeGarrette Blount, Tony Washington, Jason Worilds, Kyle Calloway

5th: John Skelton, Walter Thurmond, Micah Johnson, Marcus Easley, Michael Hoomanawanui

6th: Kareem Jackson, Charles Brown, Sean Weatherspoon, Jared Veldheer, Carlton Mitchell

7th: Fendi Onobun, Callahan Bright, Greg Boone, Martin Tevaseu, Andrew Tyshovnytsky
Oh, and just for the record, i'm bettin on this one...

Supplemental Draft: Harvey Unga, 3rd round pick
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 19, 2010 8:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Round 1:
Ryan Mathews
Jahvid Best
Jared Odrick
Nate Allen
Sean Weatherspoon

Round 2:
Tyson Alualu
Cam Thomas
Jonathan Dwyer
Toby Gerhart
Jason Veldheer

Round 3:
Jason Fox
Myron Lewis
Jamar Chaney
Brandon LaFell
Rob Gronkowski

Round 4:
Montario Hardesty
D'Anthony Smith
Al Woods
Myron Rolle
Tony Pike

Round 5:
Nate Byham
Michael Hoomanawanui
Jay Ross
Andre Dixon
Rashawn Jackson

Round 6:
Ben Tate
Devin McCourty
Kyle Wilson
Chad Jones
Rolando McClain

Round 7:
Levi Brown
Jevan Sneed
Vince Oghobaase
Antonio Brown
Scott Long

I think a Nerf remote would be a good investment in the next couple days. Unfortunately, the only one that I know of is for the Wii...


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 19, 2010 8:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

21BoltSalute wrote:
Round 1:
Ryan Mathews
Jahvid Best
Sean Weatherspoon
Maurkice Pouncey
Jared Odrick

Round 2:
Tyson Alualu
Cam Thomas
Bruce Campbell
Chad Jones
Rob Gronkowski

Round 3:
Jason Fox
Ben Tate
Toby Gerhart
Brandon LaFell
Jamar Chaney

Round 4:
Montario Hardesty
Al Woods
D'Anthony Smith
Myron Lewis
Tony Pike

Round 5:
Nate Byham
Michael Hoomanawanui
Jay Ross
Andre Dixon
Rashawn Jackson

Round 6:
Jonathan Dwyer
Devin McCourty
Kyle Wilson
Nate Allen
Jason Veldheer

Round 7:
Levi Brown
Jevan Sneed
Vince Oghobaase
Antonio Brown
Scott Long

I think a Nerf remote would be a good investment in the next couple days. Unfortunately, the only one that I know of is for the Wii...


LOL at Dwyer, McCourty, Wilson and Veldheer, and Nate Allen being there in the sixth. I hope that was a joke
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 19, 2010 8:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JammerHammer21 wrote:
21BoltSalute wrote:
Round 1:
Ryan Mathews
Jahvid Best
Sean Weatherspoon
Maurkice Pouncey
Jared Odrick

Round 2:
Tyson Alualu
Cam Thomas
Bruce Campbell
Chad Jones
Rob Gronkowski

Round 3:
Jason Fox
Ben Tate
Toby Gerhart
Brandon LaFell
Jamar Chaney

Round 4:
Montario Hardesty
Al Woods
D'Anthony Smith
Myron Lewis
Tony Pike

Round 5:
Nate Byham
Michael Hoomanawanui
Jay Ross
Andre Dixon
Rashawn Jackson

Round 6:
Jonathan Dwyer
Devin McCourty
Kyle Wilson
Nate Allen
Jason Veldheer

Round 7:
Levi Brown
Jevan Sneed
Vince Oghobaase
Antonio Brown
Scott Long

I think a Nerf remote would be a good investment in the next couple days. Unfortunately, the only one that I know of is for the Wii...


LOL at Dwyer, McCourty, Wilson and Veldheer, and Nate Allen being there in the sixth. I hope that was a joke


I can see what he did. We dont have a pick in the sixth (so that pick is supposed to be the comp pick not the 6th) so he thought he would go ahead and add guys who we would look at picking in the 1st or 2nd.

For the record, i think its supposed to be a cluster for EACH PICK not each ROUND if i'm not mistaken, but correct me if i'm wrong.

EDIT: Nevermind. He did what was asked of him, i did it wrong. But he did what i said in the 1st paragraph.

Actually its a really smart thing to do, since we dont have a 6th round pick, and i dont plan on having one.

I'm gonna edit my mock so that its actually within the guidelines, and i'm gonna do the same thing.
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Quote:
For the record, i think its supposed to be a cluster for EACH PICK not each ROUND if i'm not mistaken, but correct me if i'm wrong.

It is supposed to be each round, so it covers trades and mutiple round picks. In this years case, if there are no trade I will likely add the 6th round cluster into the 5th round since we have 2 picks in that round. It's just a fun little competition, I'm not too strict on anything.

In my opinion, the Chargers 3 biggest needs are running back, nose tackle, and safety. I expect at least one of these positions to be filled by the first 40 picks, hopefully 2 (but I had DE and OT as the 2 biggest needs last year, and yet our top 2 picks went to a guard and a linebacker). Defensive End and offensive tackle are posistions where I could see the team take a player if the value is right. Here are the top guys in my opinion at each of the positions that have a chance of being there atpick 28/40.

Nose Tackle:
1. Dan Williams
+ played his best in a pro defense under Monte Kiffen last year
+ excellent weight/quickness/strength
+ A lot of upside
- Inconsistent until his senior year
- Has had weight issues

2. Terrence Cody
+ Unmovable force in the middle
+ Disruptive in run and pass game
+ Typical nose body
- May eat his way out of league in a year
- Motivation is questionable
- lacks burst off line


Running back
1. Jahvid Best
+ Explosive, fast, quick change of direction
+ Runs harder than weight
+ Great pass catcher
- Poor blocking fundementals
- Can he carry 20 times a game?
- Not ideal size, can he add bulk without losing explosiveness?

2. Ryan Matthews
+ Ideal size
+ Runs with power and speed, very balanced
+ Great on 3rd down, can catch and block very well
- Durability
- Lacks top end speed
- Only 1 year of elite production

3. Toby Gerhart
+ Gets the hard yards with his tough running style
+ Very productive, smart, high intagibles
+ Capable pass catcher and blocker
- Good, but not top end, speed
- Too similar to Hester/Tolbert?

4. Montario Hardesty
+ Good athleticism and burst
+ good hands out of backfield
+ Excellent vision
- Scary injury history
- Again, not going to beat anyone with his speed
- Limited playing time, but that may be a plus

Safety
1. Taylor Mays
+ Everything you want physically
+ Versatile, reminds me of Weddle in that aspect
+ Great intangibles
- Misses too many tackles
- Liability in man to man, much better zone
- Too similar to what Chargers have?

2. Nate Allen
+ Very solid tackler
+ Playmaker
+ Great physical tools
- Needs to bulk up
- Liability in man to man coverage

3. Chad Jones
+ Great athlete with burst
+ Capable in man to man coverage
+ Good run support
- Extremely raw
- Antonio Cromartie syndrom? (Meaning he doesn't like to tackle)

Defesnive End
1. Jared Odrick
+ Ideal frame
+ Good burst off the line, capable of making plays in backfield
+ High effort, high motor. Doesnt take plays off
- Struggles with double teams
- Too ordinary for a top pick?

2. Tyson Alualu
+ Power, speed, and size
+ Intelligent player who is a team leader
+ High motor
- Offers little as a pass rusher
- Could bulk up some more. Wish he was 2 inches taller
- Again, not much drop off after. Worth investing a high pick?

3. Linval Joseph
+ Incredible upside
+ Top notch size and strength
+ Compares to Vaughn Martin. Could play nose down the road.
- Conditioning and weight concerns
- Raw
- Low level of competition

4. Corey Wooten
5. Alex Carrington
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Duffman57 wrote:
I can see what he did. We dont have a pick in the sixth (so that pick is supposed to be the comp pick not the 6th) so he thought he would go ahead and add guys who we would look at picking in the 1st or 2nd.

For the record, i think its supposed to be a cluster for EACH PICK not each ROUND if i'm not mistaken, but correct me if i'm wrong.

EDIT: Nevermind. He did what was asked of him, i did it wrong. But he did what i said in the 1st paragraph.

Actually its a really smart thing to do, since we dont have a 6th round pick, and i dont plan on having one.

I'm gonna edit my mock so that its actually within the guidelines, and i'm gonna do the same thing.


Yeah, I didn't plan on us getting a 6th rounder either. My initial thoughts regarding the 6th round thing was that I have a hunch that we'll move a player and/or picks to get another pick in the 2nd or 3rd round, so I figured that another shot at partial credit was a good idea. And, if Sproles is the player that gets moved like I suspect, I wouldn't be surprised to see us grab two RBs early.

But, we'll have to see. I think I screwed it up last year by choosing who I wanted, and not thinking about who A.J. might be targeting. That's why I'll probably wind up flip-flopping again on Weatherspoon before the draft. It's hard to me to decide whether A.J. will look at him as a Merriman-type vocal leader or another loud-mouthed Phillips.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 9:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

AntonioGates' Mock draft (First 40 picks)

[I think it is a little too safe, because there were spots I felt something surprising could happen, like picks 5, 8, 13, 20, etc. However I just wanted to get this up and see if I can get any right Smile]

1. Rams - Sam Bradford, QB, Oklahoma
2. Lions - Ndamukong Suh, DT, Nebraska
3. Bucs - Gerald McCoy, DT, Oklahoma
4. Redskins - Trent Williams, OT, Oklahoma
5. Cheifs - Eric Berry, S, Tennessee (Most likely trading spot)
6. Seahawks - Russell Okung, OT, Oklahoma State
7. Browns - Jimmy Clausen, QB, Notre Dame
8. Raiders - Bruce Campell, OT, Maryland (iffy on whether i buy this pick)
9. Bills - Bryan Bulaga, OT, Iowa
10. Jaguars - C.J. Spiller, RB, Clemson
11. Broncos - Rolando McClain, ILB, Alabama
12. Dolphons - Derreck Morgan, OLB, Georgia Tech
13. 49ers - Anthony Davis, OT, Rutgers
14. Seahawks - Brandon Grahmn, DE, Michigan
15. Giants - Dan Williams, DT, Tennessee
16. Titans - Joe Haden, CB, Florida
17. 49ers - Jason Pierre Paul, DE, South Florida
18. Steelers - Mike Iupati, OG, Idaho
19. Falcons - Maurkice Pouncy, OC, Florida
20. Texans - Patrick Robinson, CB, Florida State
21. Bengals - Jermaine Gresham, TE, Oklahoma
22. Patriots - Jerry Hughes, OLB, TCU
23. Packers - Charles Brown, OT, USC
24. Eagles - Kyle Wilson, CB, Boise State
25. Ravens - Jared Odrick, DE, Penn State
26. Cardinals - Sean Witherspoon, ILB, Missouri
27. Cowboys - Rodger Saffold, OT, Indiana
28. Chargers - Ryan Matthews, RB, Fresno State
29. Jets - Taylor Mays, S, USC
30. Vikings - Colt McCoy, QB, Texas
31. Colts - Tyson Alualu, DT, Cal
32. Saints - Sergio Kindle, OLB, Texas

33. Rams - Demaryuis Thomas, WR, Georgia Tech
34. Lions - Kareem Jackson, CB, Alabama
35. Bucs - Golden Tate, WR, Notre Dame
36. Cheifs - Terrence Cody, NT, Alabama
37. Eagles - Vladimire Ducasse, OG, Mass
38. Browns - Jahvid Best, RB, Cal
39. Raiders - Everson Griffen, DE, USC
40. Chargers - Nate Allen, S, South Florida
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Round One
Terrence Cody
Tyson Alualu
Linval Joseph
Taylor Mays
Devin McCourty

Round Two
Jonathan Dwyer
Ben Tate
Chad Jones
Chris Cook
Morgan Burnett

Round Three
Andre Roberts
Mike Neal
Austen Lane
Brandon Spikes
Reshad Jones

Round Four
Kam Chancellor
Darrell Stuckey
Jamar Chaney
Donald Butler
Donovan Warren

Round Five
Deji Karim
Levi Brown
Micah Johnson
Brandon Sharpe
Daniel Teo Nesheim

Round Six
Ryan Mathews
Mike Williams
Kareem Jackson
Toby Gerhart
Jahvid Best

Round Seven
Nate Byham
Nathan Overbay
Michael Hoomanawanui
Arthur Moats
Alfonso Smith
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Round 1:
Taylor Mays
Jahvid Best
Jared Odrick
Dan Williams
Tyson Alualu

Round 2:
Ryan Mathews
Bruce Campbell
Kareem Jackson
Linval Joseph
Jonathan Dwyer

Round 3:
Al Woods
Ben Tate
Toby Gerhart
Cam Thomas
Amari Spievey

Round 4:
Montario Hardesty
Al Woods
Jamar Chaney
Myron Lewis
Tony Pike

Round 5:
Nate Byham
Michael Hoomanawanui
Jay Ross
Anthony Dixon
Rashawn Jackson

Round 6:
Sean Weatherspoon
Devin McCourty
Jerry Hughes
Terrence Cody
Arthur Jones

Round 7:
Chris Campbell
Jevan Sneed
Vince Oghobaase
Andrew Tyshovnytsky
Travis Goethel
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Round 1:
Earl Thomas
Jared Odrick
Dan Williams
Tyson Alualu
Devin Mcourty

Round 2:
Patrick Robinson
Vladimir Ducasse
Kareem Jackson
Nate Allen
Ben Tate

Round 3:
Al Woods
Jonathan Dwyer
Toby Gerhart
Akwasi Owusu-Ansah
Myron Lewis

Round 4:
Montario Hardesty
Torrell Troup
Jamar Chaney
Brandon Spikes
Tony Pike

Round 5:
Jacoby Ford
Clifton Geathers
Major Wright
Alterraun Verner
Levi Brown

Round 6:
Devin McCourty
Lamarcus Coker
Taylor Mays
Terrence Cody
Arthur Jones

Round 7:
Andrew Tyshovnytsky
Kyle Calloway
John Conner
Roberto Wallace
Chris Maragos
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LBC's Mock Draft (First 40 picks... for the time being):

1. Rams - Sam Bradford, QB, Oklahoma
2. Lions - Ndamukong Suh, DT, Nebraska
3. Bucs - Gerald McCoy, DT, Oklahoma
4. Redskins - Trent Williams, OT, Oklahoma
5. Chiefs - Dan Williams, NT, Tennessee (Most likely trading spot)
6. Seahawks - Russell Okung, OT, Oklahoma State
7. Browns - Derrick Morgan, DE, Georgia Tech
8. Raiders - Mike Iuputi, OG, Idaho (I'm not seeing reports of anything about the Raiders taking a shine to Matthews, Iuputi is another uber athlete they seem to love.)
9. Bills - Bryan Bulaga, OT, Iowa
10. Jaguars - Joe Haden, CB, Florida
11. Broncos - Maurkice Pouncey, C, Florida
12. Dolphins - Eric Berry, CB/S, Tennessee
13. 49ers - Jimmy Clausen, QB, Notre Dame
14. Seahawks - CJ Spiller, RB, Clemson
15. Giants - Rolando McClain, LB, Alabama
16. Titans - Jason Pierre-Paul, DE, South Florida
17. 49ers - Anthony Davis, OT, Rutgers
18. Steelers - Earl Thomas, CB/S, Texas
19. Falcons - Brandon Graham, DE, Michigan (I'm calling the Packers trade up to take him if he's available here)
20. Texans - Kyle Wilson, CB, Boise State
21. Bengals - Dez Bryant, WR, Oklahoma State
22. Patriots - Jermaine Gresham, TE, Oklahoma
23. Packers - Sergio Kindle, LB, Texas (who I think the Falcons would also take if the above trade goes through)
24. Eagles - Devin McCourty, CB, Rutgers
25. Ravens - Jared Odrick, DE, Penn State
26. Cardinals - Sean Weatherspoon, ILB, Missouri
27. Cowboys - Nate Allen, S, USF
28. Chargers - Ryan Matthews, RB, Fresno State
29. Jets - Taylor Mays, S, USC
30. Vikings - Kareem Jackson, CB, Alabama
31. Colts - Charles Brown, OT, USC
32. Saints - Everson Griffin, DE, USC

33. Rams - Brian Price, DT, UCLA
34. Lions - Patrick Robinson, CB, Florida State
35. Bucs - Demaryius Thomas, WR, Georgia Tech
36. Cheifs - Terrence Cody, NT, Alabama
37. Eagles - Jerry Hughes, LB, TCU
38. Browns - Jahvid Best, RB, Cal
39. Raiders - Carlos Dunlap, DE, Florida
40. Chargers - Tyson Alualu, DE/DT, Cal
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