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 Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2010 4:10 am Post subject: FFMD 2010: Raider Nation War Room v.2.0 |
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Current Roster
Acquired by trade
Acquired through free agency
Acquired through undrafted free agency
Acquired by draft
QB - Gradkowski, J. Russell, Frye
RB - Bush, McFadden, G. Russell,
FB - O'Neal,Tonga
WR - Schilens, M. Williams, Higgins
WR - Murphy, Heyward-Bey, N. Miller
TE - Z. Miller, Stewart, Myers
LT - M. Henderson, Tyshovnytsky
LG - Gallery
C - Satele, Preston
RG - Jerry, Carlisle
RT - T. Williams, Walker
DE - Seymour, Dunlap
UT - Kelly, Bryant
NT - Jackson, Thomas
DE - Shaughnessy, Richardson, (Scott)
WLB - Scott, Howard
MLB - Morrison, Chaney
SLB - Bowman, Poppinga
CB - Asomugha, J. Williams, Bennett
FS - Huff, Gregory
SS - Branch, Mitchell
CB - C. Johnson, Routt
P - Lechler
K - Janikowski
LS - Condo
ST - Ekejuiba
Draft Picks
1st round (#8 ) = OT Trent Williams
2nd round (#39) = DE Carlos Dunlap
3rd round (#69) = LB Navorro Bowman
3rd round (#72) = DT Cam Thomas
4th round (#103) = OG John Jerry
5th round (#133) = LB Jamar Chaney
7th round (#198) = WR Mike Williams
Resources
Draft trade value table:
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/draft06/news/story?id=2410670
Updated trade value table:
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/153769-updating-the-nfl-draft-trade-value-chart
Value of future picks:
http://www.justissports.net/chart.html
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5th Round
128 Jacksonville Jaguars (from St. Louis)
129 Detroit Lions
130 Cleveland Browns(from Tampa Bay)
131 Washington Redskins
132 Kansas City Chiefs
133 Minnesota Vikings (from Cleveland)
134 Oakland Raiders
135 Seattle Seahawks
136 Buffalo Bills
137 Denver Broncos (from Chicago)
138 Kansas City Chiefs(from Miami)
139 Jacksonville Jaguars
140 Kansas City Chiefs(from Carolina)
141 San Francisco 49ers
142 Cleveland Browns(from Denver via Detroit)
143 Minnesota Vikings (from New York Giants)
144 Tennessee Titans
145 Atlanta Falcons
146 Houston Texans
147 Pittsburgh Steelers
148 Atlanta Falcons (from Cincinnati)
149 Kansas City (from New England via Tampa Bay)
150 Green Bay Packers
151 Philadelphia Eagles (from Philadelphia via St. Louis)
152 Seattle Seahawks (from Baltimore)
153 Minnesota Vikings (from Arizona via Miami)
154 Buffalo Bills (from Dallas via Denver, New England, and Oakland)
155 San Diego Chargers
156 Cleveland Browns (from New York Jets)
157 Miami Dolphins (from Minnesota)
158 Indianapolis Colts
159 Carolina Panthers (New Orleans via Philadelphia and New York Jets)
6th Round
160 St. Louis Rams
161 Detroit Lions
162 Tampa Bay Buccaneers
163 Minnesota Vikings (from Kansas City via Miami)
164 Miami Dolphins(from Washington)
165 Carolina Panthers(from Oakland)
166 Seattle Seahawks
167 Cleveland Browns
168 Jacksonville Jaguars (from Buffalo via New England)
169 Miami Dolphins
170 Jacksonville Jaguars
171 New England Patriots (from Chicago via Buffalo)
172 San Francisco 49ers
173 Seattle Seahawks (from Denver)
174 Cincinnati Bengals (from New York Giants)
175 Tennessee Titans
176 Cleveland Browns(from Carolina)
177 Houston Texans
178 Pittsburgh Steelers
179 Atlanta Falcons
180 San Diego Chargers (from New England)
181 Cincinnati Bengals
182 Buffalo Bills(from Philadelphia)
183 Green Bay Packers
184 Seattle Seahawks (from Baltimore)
185 Miam Dolphins (from Arizona)
186 Dallas Cowboys
187 Houston Texans(from San Diego)
188 New York Jets
189 Minnesota Vikings
190 Houston Texans (from Indianapolis via Philadelphia)
191 New Orleans Saints
7th Round
192 Washington Redskins (from St. Louis)
193 Buffalo Bills (from Detroit)
194 Tampa Bay Buccaneers
195 Washington Redskins
196 Minnesota Vikings (from Kansas City via Miami)
197 Seattle Seahawks
198 Detroit Lions(from Cleveland)
199 Oakland Raiders
200 Buffalo Bills
201 Tampa Bay Buccaneers(from Jacksonville)
202 Chicago Bears
203 Miami Dolphins
204 Denver Broncos
205 New York Giants
206 Tennessee Titans
207 Carolina Panthers
208 San Francisco 49ers
209 Pittsburgh Steelers
210 St. Louis Rams(from Atlanta)
211 Houston Texans
212 Cincinnati Bengals
213 New England Patriots(from New England via Denver)
214 Green Bay Packers
215 New England Patriots(from Philadelphia)
216 Tampa Bay Buccaneers(from Baltimore)
217 Arizona Cardinals
218 Dallas Cowboys
219 San Diego Chargers
220 New York Jets
221 Minnesota Vikings
222 Indianapolis Colts
223 New Orleans Saints
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Our next pick isn't until Wednesday unless we trade up, so I thought it would be good to look at where we stand in terms of the O-line, since it was our biggest problem last year. Here's our current situation coded by age and experience:
LT - Henderson, Whimper
LG - Gallery, Coston
C - Satele, Preston
RG - Carlisle, Vincent
RT - Williams, Walker
Young, little starting experience
Young, some starting experience
Moderate age and starting experience
Older and lots of starting experience
Here are some questions I have:
1. Do we need both Carlisle and Vincent? Both are older, make a lot of money, and are primarily RGs. I question whether we really need both, especially since Langston Walker can also play RG. If we need only one, who should it be?
2. Is Duke Preston an adequate backup at C? He didn't play in any games last year after losing the starting position in Buffalo the year before. But he does have some experience at OG too so could give us some nice flexibility as a backup.
3. Are Whimper and Coston any good? Both have been in the league at least as long as Henderson and Satele but have not been good enough to get many starts. Coston was out of football last year. Should we try to do better, or are they good young prospects to try to develop?
I'm thinking that if we have enough guys who can play two positions (G/T and C/G), we would only have to keep nine O-linemen. That would allow us to keep an extra player somewhere else. On the current roster, Preston (C/G), Walker (T/G), and Coston (G/C) can play multiple postions. I'm not sure if Coston is going to make the team, but adding somebody who could play G/T would make me want to go with only nine O-linemen.
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DarthDavis
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| SanDiegoRaiderFan wrote: | Our next pick isn't until Wednesday unless we trade up, so I thought it would be good to look at where we stand in terms of the O-line, since it was our biggest problem last year. Here's our current situation coded by age and experience:
LT - Henderson, Whimper
LG - Gallery, Coston
C - Satele, Preston
RG - Carlisle, Vincent
RT - Williams, Walker
Young, little starting experience
Young, some starting experience
Moderate age and starting experience
Older and lots of starting experience
Here are some questions I have:
1. Do we need both Carlisle and Vincent? Both are older, make a lot of money, and are primarily RGs. I question whether we really need both, especially since Langston Walker can also play RG. If we need only one, who should it be?
2. Is Duke Preston an adequate backup at C? He didn't play in any games last year after losing the starting position in Buffalo the year before. But he does have some experience at OG too so could give us some nice flexibility as a backup.
3. Are Whimper and Coston any good? Both have been in the league at least as long as Henderson and Satele but have not been good enough to get many starts. Coston was out of football last year. Should we try to do better, or are they good young prospects to try to develop?
I'm thinking that if we have enough guys who can play two positions (G/T and C/G), we would only have to keep nine O-linemen. That would allow us to keep an extra player somewhere else. On the current roster, Preston (C/G), Walker (T/G), and Coston (G/C) can play multiple postions. I'm not sure if Coston is going to make the team, but adding somebody who could play G/T would make me want to go with only nine O-linemen. |
1. Well we know Carlisle is making more money then Vincent, so there would be a discount. I think Vincent and Walker would be a good plan at RG, with maybe picking up a youngster to get in the fold.
2. Yeah, I think we will be okay with Preston, if we can upgrade somehow that would be even better
3. I think they are serviceable considering they are decent backups but again if this is an are we can upgrade then so be it.
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| SanDiegoRaiderFan wrote: | Here are some questions I have:
1. Do we need both Carlisle and Vincent? Both are older, make a lot of money, and are primarily RGs. I question whether we really need both, especially since Langston Walker can also play RG. If we need only one, who should it be?
2. Is Duke Preston an adequate backup at C? He didn't play in any games last year after losing the starting position in Buffalo the year before. But he does have some experience at OG too so could give us some nice flexibility as a backup.
3. Are Whimper and Coston any good? Both have been in the league at least as long as Henderson and Satele but have not been good enough to get many starts. Coston was out of football last year. Should we try to do better, or are they good young prospects to try to develop?
I'm thinking that if we have enough guys who can play two positions (G/T and C/G), we would only have to keep nine O-linemen. That would allow us to keep an extra player somewhere else. On the current roster, Preston (C/G), Walker (T/G), and Coston (G/C) can play multiple postions. I'm not sure if Coston is going to make the team, but adding somebody who could play G/T would make me want to go with only nine O-linemen. |
1. I like Vincent over Carlisle at RG. I think he is much more effective in the running game and is much more reliable in his pass set. I do not think we need both, and wouldn't mind bringing in a young talent at the OG position that could possibly swing between LG and RG.
2. Duke Preston is more than adequate as a back-up C and IMO could beat out Satele once he gets settled in. He might not be quite as mobile as Satele, but he has a much stronger anchor in his pass set, and is equally as effective in the running game. In addition, he has the versatility and value at OG, which is value and versatility that I'm not sure Satele holds at this point. I would be highly disappointed leaving Preston go, as I still think he has some good football left in him. The Cowboys tendered him in real-life, and did so for a reason...although most would consider him a long shot to make the final roster, I think he's a solid fit in our scheme. Especially with the options given us in the draft and via the FA poole. Preston is a high-reward, low risk player given his skill set and versatility.
3. I think Whimper was a fair-to-midland pick-up at the OT spot and provides us what we need at the position from a depth perspective. He is only a LT from what I hear from a few others I have inquired with, which is fine considering the Williams pick, and Walker's ability to at least play adequately when he is on his game at RT. He provides an experience player to back-up Henderson on the left-side, and although I'd like someone maybe slightly higher caliber, we're just not in a position at this point to make that happen.
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I guess we're likely to adress both lines in the draft going forward so some of those OL will have to go.
I'm not a fan of Carlisle, in case you didn't know, so obviously i'd let him go if we pick a G at some point.
I guess Williams would switch to LT before Whimper gets any chance to step onto the field which makes him expendable. Right now, he's a likely inactive every week barring injuries.
Can somebody pm me an update on our targets in the 3rd or in case of a trade up? Thx.
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Are you guys still interested in the deal I proposed?
51, bucs 5th and CLE 6th
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your two third rounders?
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^If someone is, i'd like to know who we'd be trading for... I don't see the need for it, there's a long list of talented players at our need positions still available.
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| RaiderNation7 wrote: | The Rams just place a bid on Larry Johnson/RB.
The bid stands at $500,000. We should get involved. He's still young enough to make a difference and would be a solid insurance policy for Bush and DMAC....more so than Ganther. Atleast IMO.
We need to throw our hat in the ring now, and take a shot, but since they just placed the bid, we have some time to debate.
I vote YES to a bid for Larry Johnson/RB |
From the previous thread. I did put in a bid for Johnson. RN7, you're now authorized to make bids too. Anybody else want to be able to do that?
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| Nabbs4u wrote: | | SanDiegoRaiderFan wrote: | | Nabbs4u wrote: | Eagles AGM,
I see your 2nd rd pick has been made. If there is still any interest in OLB Chris Gocong I can sweeten the previous deal that involved our 5th #152 to
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OLB Chris Gocong (50) late 4th
4th #123 (49)
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Feel free to contact me at anytime or post in the War Room. Thanks |
I'm still interested in this, but we may use that pick to trade up or trade up from that pick. |
Trade up or back from your 3rd rd pick?? So after that pick is made you would be willing to deal "IF" still interested. Let me know when your ready. |
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Did anybody notice that the actual team is copying some of the things that were done here? Cutting Fargas and Ellis was controversial here and I didn't want to do it in this, but it happened in real life. They kept Ricky Brown and Khalif Barnes though, which would have helped a lot.
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| SanDiegoRaiderFan wrote: | | Did anybody notice that the actual team is copying some of the things that were done here? Cutting Fargas and Ellis was controversial here and I didn't want to do it in this, but it happened in real life. They kept Ricky Brown and Khalif Barnes though, which would have helped a lot. |
They also retained Hirum Eugene. I'm sure the Raiders have their eyes set on JPP after the release of Ellis.... 
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| BayArea07 wrote: | | SanDiegoRaiderFan wrote: | | Did anybody notice that the actual team is copying some of the things that were done here? Cutting Fargas and Ellis was controversial here and I didn't want to do it in this, but it happened in real life. They kept Ricky Brown and Khalif Barnes though, which would have helped a lot. |
They also retained Hirum Eugene. I'm sure the Raiders have their eyes set on JPP after the release of Ellis.... |
I think it was more of a cost cutting move and we know we have a true gem in Shaughnessy. I am very big on Jay Richardson as well, Richardson and Shaughnessy are all we will ever need at LE IMO. I seriously doubt we are going after JPP, if it is a DE you can guarantee it will be Everson Griffen.
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Our old friend Paul McQuistan has been released in this. Anybody want to bring McQ back?
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| SanDiegoRaiderFan wrote: | | Our old friend Paul McQuistan has been released in this. Anybody want to bring McQ back? |
Would he be better the Whimper, probably.
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