GIANTS wat do they need to draft

cujo611 · Joined: 28 Dec 2004 Posts: 4

i think a lot of moves will be done in offseason.
Toomer and/or Hilliard gone
Will Allen or Will Peterson gone
They need a receiver i think
wat do u think
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ELI is the Future when the Giants get a receiver

Loyalbutsadfan:saints: · Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2004 2:06 am Post subject:

Hey you have to remeber it all starts up front if he gets time he can pass to any reciever

barlow32 · Joined: 30 Nov 2004 Posts: 2501

true dat. they need help upfront. toomer can be a solid # 1 wr i think in this league. they just need to get the qb some time to throw to him.

BoKnowsFootball · Joined: 23 Nov 2004 Posts: 1531 Location: CA

Yea I voted OL

Maybe the worst Offensive Line unit in the NFL

There still may be a quality OT left on the board and there will def be some top Guards to chose from

cujo611 · Joined: 28 Dec 2004 Posts: 4

if the offensive line is so bad y is tiki barber one of the top rushers in the league this year
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ELI is the Future when the Giants get a receiver

Crickett · Joined: 27 Nov 2004 Posts: 327

All of the above except DB.
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Chirp.

e16bball · Joined: 17 Dec 2004 Posts: 14974

I agree with crickett in that they need help at all those spots in addition to DL...but honestly thinking that one position upgrade is going to help the giants return to the playoffs next year is erroneous and wishful thinking...the giants are really a very weak team and it will take several years until they are ready to contend...eli is a good start, but the rest of the team is aging and declining in skills...in about 2007 i will start fearing the giants if they can put together a good nucleus of players soon

njmoney · Joined: 19 Jan 2005 Posts: 1

u guys are all nuts. the oline is solid all around. we need to move luke back to right and diehl to gaurd and get us a left tackle in the draft or FA. the problem the last 2 years hasnt been anyone position but the amount of injuries and stupid penalties. dont forget we were 5-2 at one point this year. and that was with warner. now think of what we can do with eli. i agree that hilliard will be gone due to his high cap number. we have as much talent as anyone in the league on O but r guys cant stay healthy. thats the problem.

shortnproud52 · Joined: 10 Jan 2005 Posts: 3847 Location: NY-MIA

You should add a none of the above...

The Giants suck, and i'd bet everything I own that they won;t make the playoffs next year, NFC or not.

marc1838 · Joined: 22 Jan 2005 Posts: 39

Until the Giants make public the needs thye plan to address via FA, its too early to tell. There are many quality LT's that shouldbe available, and with the Giants making a huge investment in Eli, you can expect them to go after a quality LT rather than a project. By the time the Giants pick at 43, the top three LT's will already be gone, and the last thing they need is another project. And if they do sign a LT they can move Luke P back to RT and David Diehl to RG where he belongs. He played well there his rookie season and with Chris Snee, they have their guard positions locked up for a few years.

As far as WR, that is a major concern. Hilliard is most likely toast only b/c Tommer will cost too much against the cap to cut. There are a few big name WR's available, such as Plaxico Burress, but no one worth breaking the bank on. Same goes for MLB and Safety, which is why I think they're more likely to address those concerns in the draft. The Giants have a lot of money to spend this year, so if the front office finally gets it right, we'll see a major OL signing. Just my two cents.... Regardless, this team is still a few years away from winning. They're very young, except at the skill positions other than QB. So, if they can address those areas in the draft, they might be better off.

marc1838 · Joined: 22 Jan 2005 Posts: 39

I also think that many people overlook the fact that they Giants haven't been able to create any turnovers on D. Gibril Wilson looked good, but Will Allen is garbage, as well as the other dopes, save for Will Peterson who is locked up. I think the biggest needs to address thru the draft are on D, with the exception of the D-Line, which when healthy, is solid. A weak LB core also made the D-Line look worse than it had to this year.

Secondly, outside of Tiki, we have no big playmakers. Shockey was way to inconsistent, and with no other solid WR threat, they can afford to focus their coverage on him.

What I hope they do during the draft is focus on a MLB, WR and CB/S... maybe a backup RB and QB in the later rounds. I'm tired of drafting depth... you cant sign everyone in FA, so they have to do a better job through the draft. Last year was good, but previous years were lacking.

Gojets · Joined: 23 Jan 2005 Posts: 117

I'm not a giants fan at all. I've seen all the games. Quick question, how the heck and you say Eli is the future if he plays like he has. In 7 starts 48.2% of his passes and he threw 9 int. Bad O-line or not, bad recivers or not, if your the future u should do at least a little more. Lets not get ahead of ourselves here. HE HAS DONE NOTHING YET! Call him the future when he does something good against a good team. They gave up too much and it doesn't matter wat the Giants do it will take to long to win it all.

marc1838 · Joined: 22 Jan 2005 Posts: 39

its seems quite obvious that you're posting on the giants board to rip on eli b/c you're just starting to figure out that chad pennington isn't as good as everyone believes. if you dont think that an O-line and the receivers you surround your QB with aren't integral factors, I think we have to question your football knowledge.

Gojets · Joined: 23 Jan 2005 Posts: 117

marc1838 so we get this straight i said he "Has done nothing YET" I never said he won't do anything. Yes he could be a good QB and Yes he can be a flop. Just Like Big Ben could be. There still rookies. All that upsets me is that i saw a Giants jersey with the name Manning on the back. Usually a play has to play great before he gets his jersey sold in stores. He hasn't proven himself yet but everyone is talking of him like he is his brother already. I know i said he will be a flop but that was off a feeling that I have just because there is too much pressure on him to make the big plays like his dad and big bro. I apologize if i offended any of you but i wanted to state my opinion. But anyway good luck new year. In state rivals that’s all.

shortnproud52 · Joined: 10 Jan 2005 Posts: 3847 Location: NY-MIA

You really can't talk about Chad Pennington at all...

--------------------Chad----------vs.----------Eli
W-L----------------9-4-------------------------1-6

Passer Rtg--------91.0------------------------55.4

Completion %----65.4------------------------48.2

YPG----------------182.8----------------------115.9

TD/G---------------1.3-------------------------0.67

INT/G--------------0.6-------------------------1.0

Oh BTW, Chad plays in the AFC (Pats, Steelers, Ravens, Bills, Chargers). Eli in the NFC (Eagles, no one else...)

And, Chad played thru injuries after Week 4 or something like that.

Annnnnnnnnnd Chad led his team into the playoffs...Eli led his team out of the playoffs.

Yes, Eli will get better...but will never reach the level of a healthy Chad Pennington, and shouldn't even be mentioned in the same sentence as his brother or father.