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Devin23Hester


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 23, 2009 4:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

iavikefn wrote:
5. Brandon Jennings / Steve Nash

They shouldn't even be in the same sentence. Brandon Jennings is not top 5 in the MVP race. He's been good but not that good.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 23, 2009 5:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would give it to Wade so far. No one does more with less. A close second would be Dirk, he's been lights out this year.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 23, 2009 5:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

the lone star wrote:
iavikefn wrote:
My top five (six) would be:

1. Carmelo Anthony
2. LeBron James
3. Dirk Nowitzki
4. Chris Bosh
5. Brandon Jennings / Steve Nash


Nash is too low and Melo is too high IMO.


How is Melo to low when he is leading the NBA in scoring?
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 23, 2009 6:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My top 5 would go:

1. Dirk
2. Nash
3. Melo
4. LeBron
5. Wade / Bosh
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 23, 2009 6:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Devin23Hester wrote:
iavikefn wrote:
5. Brandon Jennings / Steve Nash

They shouldn't even be in the same sentence. Brandon Jennings is not top 5 in the MVP race. He's been good but not that good.


Laughing Really? Last checked, Jennings scored 55 in a game - most by a rookie in 20+ years and was also the youngest ever to score 50+ points in a game, edging out Lebron. I don't say this often but he is pretty much the sole reason we are 8-3. Without him we would be a bottom-feeder like normal and Bucks fans would be miserable once again. Not to mention Jennings has led the Bucks to the Central lead without our former best player Michael Redd. He's averaging over 25 a game and hasn't just revived the Bucks but the city of Milwaukee. He's not my #1 guy right now but I'm damn sure he should be considered.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 23, 2009 6:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

marshawn lynch wrote:
the lone star wrote:
iavikefn wrote:
My top five (six) would be:

1. Carmelo Anthony
2. LeBron James
3. Dirk Nowitzki
4. Chris Bosh
5. Brandon Jennings / Steve Nash


Nash is too low and Melo is too high IMO.


How is Melo to low when he is leading the NBA in scoring?


Because Lebron is averaging just one less and is distributing the ball and more active on the boards. Both teams have the same record as well. James also has a higher efficiency and FG %. Lebron is my guy, Melo is #2.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 23, 2009 6:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

LeBron's at 29, 8 and 7 with career highs across the board in percentages (53%, 37% and 79%). His PER right now would be #1 in the history of the NBA (32.65). His team is a game out of first in the East.

He's #1 right now.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 23, 2009 7:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

marshawn lynch wrote:
the lone star wrote:
iavikefn wrote:
My top five (six) would be:

1. Carmelo Anthony
2. LeBron James
3. Dirk Nowitzki
4. Chris Bosh
5. Brandon Jennings / Steve Nash


Nash is too low and Melo is too high IMO.


How is Melo to low when he is leading the NBA in scoring?


Melo is too HIGH.
sure he's leading the NBA in scoring, but that's not enough to make him MVP. D-Wade led the league in scoring last year, Lebron before him, and Kobe before that. None of them won the MVP that year, so I do not see how things suddenly change with Melo. He's an MVP candidate, no doubt, but I would not say that he is the frontrunner.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 23, 2009 7:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kingballa12gt wrote:
marshawn lynch wrote:
the lone star wrote:
iavikefn wrote:
My top five (six) would be:

1. Carmelo Anthony
2. LeBron James
3. Dirk Nowitzki
4. Chris Bosh
5. Brandon Jennings / Steve Nash


Nash is too low and Melo is too high IMO.


How is Melo to low when he is leading the NBA in scoring?


Because Lebron is averaging just one less and is distributing the ball and more active on the boards. Both teams have the same record as well. James also has a higher efficiency and FG %. Lebron is my guy, Melo is #2.


this too.
And like I have said before, Chauncey is the glue of that team...not Melo.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 23, 2009 7:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

the lone star wrote:
marshawn lynch wrote:
the lone star wrote:
iavikefn wrote:
My top five (six) would be:

1. Carmelo Anthony
2. LeBron James
3. Dirk Nowitzki
4. Chris Bosh
5. Brandon Jennings / Steve Nash


Nash is too low and Melo is too high IMO.


How is Melo to low when he is leading the NBA in scoring?


Melo is too HIGH.
sure he's leading the NBA in scoring, but that's not enough to make him MVP. D-Wade led the league in scoring last year, Lebron before him, and Kobe before that. None of them won the MVP that year, so I do not see how things suddenly change with Melo. He's an MVP candidate, no doubt, but I would not say that he is the frontrunner.


I agree with that but when you lead the league in scoring he is not to high. That is just an opinion thing. It is not like a dramatic change you made it sound like he was way too high.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 12:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

as11osu wrote:
His PER right now would be #1 in the history of the NBA (32.65). His team is a game out of first in the East.

He's #1 right now.


Not sure I understand this 32.65 rating can u explain?

Whatever it is Wilt once average 50 with close to 40 rebounds per game as well. Cant see Lebron beating that.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 12:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pops Mensah Bonsu
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Pick6_Finnegan wrote:
Pops Mensah Bonsu


don't diss Pops. He TORE UP my Dakota Wizards a few times.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 1:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kingballa12gt wrote:
Devin23Hester wrote:
iavikefn wrote:
5. Brandon Jennings / Steve Nash

They shouldn't even be in the same sentence. Brandon Jennings is not top 5 in the MVP race. He's been good but not that good.


Laughing Really? Last checked, Jennings scored 55 in a game - most by a rookie in 20+ years and was also the youngest ever to score 50+ points in a game, edging out Lebron. I don't say this often but he is pretty much the sole reason we are 8-3. Without him we would be a bottom-feeder like normal and Bucks fans would be miserable once again. Not to mention Jennings has led the Bucks to the Central lead without our former best player Michael Redd. He's averaging over 25 a game and hasn't just revived the Bucks but the city of Milwaukee. He's not my #1 guy right now but I'm damn sure he should be considered.

The Bucks have played by far the easiest schedule in the NBA to this point. Jennings has been impressive but let's wait and see how he does against a tough stretch of competition coming up.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 11:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Devin23Hester wrote:
Kingballa12gt wrote:
Devin23Hester wrote:
iavikefn wrote:
5. Brandon Jennings / Steve Nash

They shouldn't even be in the same sentence. Brandon Jennings is not top 5 in the MVP race. He's been good but not that good.


Laughing Really? Last checked, Jennings scored 55 in a game - most by a rookie in 20+ years and was also the youngest ever to score 50+ points in a game, edging out Lebron. I don't say this often but he is pretty much the sole reason we are 8-3. Without him we would be a bottom-feeder like normal and Bucks fans would be miserable once again. Not to mention Jennings has led the Bucks to the Central lead without our former best player Michael Redd. He's averaging over 25 a game and hasn't just revived the Bucks but the city of Milwaukee. He's not my #1 guy right now but I'm damn sure he should be considered.

The Bucks have played by far the easiest schedule in the NBA to this point. Jennings has been impressive but let's wait and see how he does against a tough stretch of competition coming up.


Real talk. BUT, we also have so many injuries to key players right now it balances things out. We have no inside presence whatsoever right now with Bogut out.
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