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FBAppreciation8


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 8:05 pm    Post subject: Hall Of Fame - Active Players Reply with quote

From players active in the nfl right now, I want to discuss any players that has a good chance of being entered into Canton. I must stress how difficult it is for a player to get into Canton and just because they have been excellent for a few years this does not guarantee them in any way.

I believe from these players there are 4 different categories

1. Lock/First Ballot HoF (Self Explanatory)
2. Likely eventual HoF (Players would will probably end up in Canton sometime or another)
3. Players on their way to being HoF players (Players who just need to continue at this rate for a few more years either to boost stats or show constistancy)
4. Outside/Homer Picks (Hotly debatable potential Canton players)

I'll name the all the players from the top of my head who fit these categories:

Lock/First Ballot:

Brett Favre
Peyton Manning
Tom Brady
Ray Lewis
Derrick Brooks
Orlando Pace
Zach Thomas

Likely Eventual:

Champ Bailey
Brian Dawkins
John Lynch
Walter Jones
Steve Hutchinson
Kevin Mawae
Alan Faneca
Ed Reed
Richard Seymour
Torry Holt
Ladainan Tomlinson
Marvin Harrison
Randy Moss
Tony Gonzalez
Jason Taylor

Players On Their Way:


Troy Polamalu
Kevin Williams
Nnamdi Asomugha
Clinton Portis
Drew Brees
Ben Roethlisberger
Julius Peppers
Dwight Freeney
Bob Sanders
Antonio Gates

Outside/Homer:

London Fletcher
Joey Porter
Brian Waters
Donovan Mcnabb
Ty Law
Pat Williams
Fred Taylor
Terrell Owens
Adam Vinetari
Kurt Warner
Charles Woodson
Brian Urlacher
Shaun Alexander
John Abraham
Lorenzo Neal
Tony Richardson
Casey Hampton
Kris Jenkins
Jamal Williams
Aaron Smith
Jeff Saturday
Olin Kreutz
Isaac Bruce
Derrick Mason
Rodney Harrison
Hines Ward

I know I have missed some players out. Except for a few omissions due to forgetfulness I am willing to argue the placements of any of these players.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 8:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think Terrell Owens belongs in the "Likely Eventual" category, or even the lock category. He's statistically a top-5 all-time WR in most categories, and ahead of Moss in several of those.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 8:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd put Warner under Likely Eventual.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 8:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Moss is a lock. Thomas isn't. There isn't one year where I would take him ahead of all the other lbs.

4-5 years of top 3 production while making the playoffs is usually the standard.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 8:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Surprised at the lack of DeMarcus Ware

The 4th fastest player to reach 50 sacks (iirc) and a completely dominant and well rounded player. I'd say he's well on his way to a HOF career.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 8:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bobikus wrote:
I'd put Warner under Likely Eventual.


I'm also curious as to why's he's considered an outside guy.
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FrostyCow


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 8:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tony G is definitely a first ballot hall of fame player. He's arguably the best player at his position ever.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 8:38 pm    Post subject: Re: Hall Of Fame - Active Players Reply with quote

FBAppreciation8 wrote:

Lock/First Ballot:
Derrick Brooks
Zach Thomas

I'd move these two down to "Likely"

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Likely Eventual:
Ladainan Tomlinson
Randy Moss
Tony Gonzalez


I'd move these 3 up to Locks/First Ballots

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Players On Their Way:
Clinton Portis
Drew Brees


I'd say these people are Likely more than on their way

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Outside/Homer:
Fred Taylor
Terrell Owens
Adam Vinetari
Kurt Warner
Charles Woodson
Brian Urlacher
Jeff Saturday


I'd say that these are all either likely or well on their way. Owens is a lock by all means and a Top 5 all-time. That being said, him and Moss might not get in on first ballot since Carter didn't either.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 8:51 pm    Post subject: Re: Hall Of Fame - Active Players Reply with quote

FBAppreciation8 wrote:
Outside/Homer:

London Fletcher
Joey Porter
Brian Waters
Donovan Mcnabb
Ty Law

Pat Williams
Fred Taylor
Terrell Owens
Adam Vinetari
Kurt Warner

Charles Woodson
Brian Urlacher
Shaun Alexander
John Abraham
Lorenzo Neal
Tony Richardson
Casey Hampton
Kris Jenkins
Jamal Williams
Aaron Smith
Jeff Saturday
Olin Kreutz
Isaac Bruce
Derrick Mason
Rodney Harrison
Hines Ward


These are all outsiders in your opinion? I figured a lot of these guys, even some I haven't bolded, would be included in the, "Players on their way" category or the, "Likely Eventual" category.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 8:58 pm    Post subject: Re: Hall Of Fame - Active Players Reply with quote

redwhite&blue wrote:
FBAppreciation8 wrote:
Outside/Homer:

London Fletcher
Joey Porter
Brian Waters
Donovan Mcnabb
Ty Law

Pat Williams
Fred Taylor
Terrell Owens
Adam Vinetari
Kurt Warner

Charles Woodson
Brian Urlacher
Shaun Alexander
John Abraham
Lorenzo Neal
Tony Richardson
Casey Hampton
Kris Jenkins
Jamal Williams
Aaron Smith
Jeff Saturday
Olin Kreutz
Isaac Bruce
Derrick Mason
Rodney Harrison
Hines Ward


These are all outsiders in your opinion? I figured a lot of these guys, even some I haven't bolded, would be included in the, "Players on their way" category or the, "Likely Eventual" category.



You're right on Waters, Owens and Saturday. Every other one could have an argument against them.

~ McNabb never won the big one and his numbers aren't EYE-POPPING.
~ Ty Law was nothing special outside of a few Pro Bowl games and one 10-Int season.
~ Fred Taylor never was considered the best at his potition, but he could move to the "POnTheirWay" catergory
~ Kickers do not make the hall
~ Isaac Bruce was never considered the best despite his immensely great numbers. He will be a "Likely Eventual" though.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 8:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Owens is a lock to make the Hall of Fame, as is Randy Moss.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 9:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Randy Moss is right there with Manning and Brady, IMO. He has been dominant from the moment he stpped on the field, and just broke Jerry Rice's record 2 years ago.

I think Tomlinson is a lock too...His numbers are off the charts, and has been a model of consistency. And he is not done yet.

Owens will be in the HOF, no doubt. I think Kevin Williams can almost start his commencement speech as well. He has quietly been probably the best DT in the past 6 years.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 9:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a hard time believing that LT isn't a lock for the Hall of Fame, especially when given the propensity that the Hall has for electing offensive players.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 9:09 pm    Post subject: Re: Hall Of Fame - Active Players Reply with quote

BlaqOptic wrote:

~ Kickers do not make the hall


Jan Stenerud didn't make nearly as many cluth kicks as Vinatieri has and he is in the Hall.

Adam Vinatieri definitely warrants consideration and if ever there was a kicker more deserving of being inducted in a few more eyars of production and stat padding, it would be him.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 9:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

IMO, Walter Jones, LaDainian Tomlinson, Marvin Harrison, Tony Gonzalez and Randy Moss are all locks.
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